like are any of them not about he, Woody Allen, fucking a much younger woman?
some of them are about him fucking a woman his own age. one of them is about Javier Bardem fucking two women, one of whom is five years younger than him* and one that is fifteen years younger than him. one is about Jason Biggs fucking someone his own age, but it is much worse than any of the American Pie movies.
* (that he has repeatedly fucked onscreen for 26 years and counting, as of Everybody Knows)
― insecurity bear (sic), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:21 (four years ago) link
dang xpost
this has a chart of the age gaps between pairings in his films. https://www.mic.com/articles/185578/heres-a-chart-showing-the-age-gaps-between-romantic-partners-in-woody-allens-movies
I wonder if silby would like Annie Hall.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:23 (four years ago) link
I wonder a lot of things
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:24 (four years ago) link
lol I looked up the Biggs one and forgot it's about him cheating on his girlfriend with a slightly younger woman and seeking advice from Woody Allen on what to do about it
― insecurity bear (sic), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:25 (four years ago) link
I think you wouldn't. But if you ever get mono maybe you could give it a shot. It's fine. xpost
― Yerac, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:26 (four years ago) link
I'm not exactly seeking out movies about het romances these days
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:26 (four years ago) link
my lesbian boomer pals and i get into arguments about it because they love it and I am like ... it's ok.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:28 (four years ago) link
the main thing it has going for it is that NYC isn't overcrowded in it.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:30 (four years ago) link
I bet a silby could enjoy several of the good-to-great Woodys, including Annie Hall, if able to set aside "imo Woody is a sex creep" preconceptions. But there are plenty of other movies to watch.
xpost again, I went off and read the Mic chart
― insecurity bear (sic), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:30 (four years ago) link
tbf Woody films are rarely if ever about romances, his characters are usually aggravated or anguished by luv, and more likely to fuck "other people" to hurt their nominal partners than bcz they're horny
― insecurity bear (sic), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:33 (four years ago) link
Javier Bardem fucking two women
dangit misremembered this one too: he is divorced from the woman five years younger, and fucks two women fifteen years and thirteen years younger than him
― insecurity bear (sic), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:48 (four years ago) link
this is accurate
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:50 (four years ago) link
even Annie Hall... I mean, saying it's about him "getting dumped" is not quite right, it's more about how anxiety conspires against happiness
Mostly just released to long-haul flight entertainment systems I think
I saw on another forum that the new one, A Rainy Day In New York, is available on some airline filghts heading into the states.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 00:00 (four years ago) link
Just read about this, a short Kissinger satire made for but not aired by PBS in '71.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyuCjDiqX58
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 00:14 (four years ago) link
!
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 00:18 (four years ago) link
well known to those steeped in his career
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 01:45 (four years ago) link
are any of them good
Zelig is a wiseass NYer's version of Forrest Gump (but made 11 years earlier)
it's probably my favorite after Annie Hall, Sleeper, Manhhattan, maybe even ahead of a couple of those
"I've never flown before in my life, and it shows exactly what you can do if you're a total psychotic!"
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 01:51 (four years ago) link
Hmm I’m being a wiseass about Woody Allen mostly for my own amusement and bc I was understimulated at work today, but Forrest Gump, I passionately loathe Forrest Gump
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 01:54 (four years ago) link
it's not *like* Forrest Gump substantively
also Susan Sontag and Saul Bellow, among others, weigh in on the hero (a "chameleon man" who conforms to his surroundings)
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 01:55 (four years ago) link
I've never seen Gump and have no plans to; it might as well be a Tarantino film
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 01:56 (four years ago) link
I’ll probably get around to reading Sontag before I get around to watching Woody Allen, at any rate.
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 01:56 (four years ago) link
There’s not really a good Forrest Gump thread for me to bump to talk shit about it in
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 01:57 (four years ago) link
you'll live
also your namesake, Gene Wilder, is great in Everything About Sex
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 02:03 (four years ago) link
Love & Death is good
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 02:06 (four years ago) link
it is! like a good prime Bob Hope burlesque, only with Dostoyevsky and Eisenstein references
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 02:08 (four years ago) link
it's not *like* Forrest Gump substantivelyalso Susan Sontag and Saul Bellow, among others, weigh in on the hero (a "chameleon man" who conforms to his surroundings)
― Tales of Jazz Ulysses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 03:22 (four years ago) link
also what was the name of the theater on the East Side where we would cue up when these things debuted, maybe the same one where Donald Fagen saw Lou Reed crying at a midday show of “Terms of Endearment,” The Beacon? No, The Beekman. Guess it closed for good recently although the original theater had already closed in 2005.
― Tales of Jazz Ulysses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 03:29 (four years ago) link
https://patch.com/new-york/upper-east-side-nyc/beekman-theatre-closes-unexpectedly-upper-east-side
I watched The Philadelphia Story the other night and got weirded out by the central theme of Katherine Hepburn needing to learn how to put up with men's bullshit so I can understand not wanting to go near Annie Hall because of WA's age-inappropriate casting.
― closed beta (NotEnough), Thursday, 12 December 2019 13:23 (four years ago) link
is te casting of annie Hall age-inappropriate?
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Thursday, 12 December 2019 13:42 (four years ago) link
Milder version of silby's question: I have seen all of Woody Allen's films through Anything Else. I have seen zero of Woody Allen's films after Anything Else. So like...am I good or is there anything I'm missing out on?
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Thursday, 12 December 2019 13:56 (four years ago) link
Oh you know what, my bad, I forgot that Melinda & Melinda came out after that, so that would've been my last one. I mean I guess shakey's revive kinda answers my question but still.
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Thursday, 12 December 2019 14:01 (four years ago) link
― closed beta (NotEnough), Thursday, December 12, 2019
otm about The Philadelphia Story, which I like but its insistence on humiliating Tracy Lord/Hepburn grates on me (and it weirded out critics at the time, I might add).
I didn't see the age difference in AH as a problem. If anything, she learns enough from him to leave his whining ass at the end of the film.m
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 December 2019 14:07 (four years ago) link
it's been a while since i saw manhattan but i always imagine that final scene is the last time hemingway's character ever sees allen's
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Thursday, 12 December 2019 14:11 (four years ago) link
I'm thinking less of the age difference in AH (which doesn't seem egregious to me) and more the general vibe of casting men against younger love interests, which is obviously a bigger problem. AH definitely paints the WA character as a solipsistic asshole loser that'll never learn and that Keaton is right to dump his ass.
― closed beta (NotEnough), Thursday, 12 December 2019 14:56 (four years ago) link
was trying to think of instances where his scripts called for casing older women with younger men - Bullets Over Broadway def the most memorable, but I think there's a couple others I'm forgetting
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 December 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link
So like...am I good or is there anything I'm missing out on?
I've seen three of the 17 he's made since then*, and enjoyed one of them a lot, but your life will not be especially enriched by it. * counting one he only acted in here, because: dermatologist Sharon Stone has never been able to arrange a girl / girl / boy threesome with her also-curious female friend, so she naturally asks her 78-year-old patient Woody Allen if he can hook her up. Woody turns to the most attractive and virile man he knows, 56-year-old John Turturro, and soon is operating a thriving business as a pimp with Turturro his sole ho. feel free to guess who wrote and directed this movie at any point.
― insecurity bear (sic), Thursday, 12 December 2019 19:50 (four years ago) link
Bill Cosby!
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 December 2019 19:50 (four years ago) link
Jeffrey Epstein before he didn't kill himself?
― I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 December 2019 19:54 (four years ago) link
Possibly the man who thought that a movie featuring his Big Lebowski character as the protagonist was actually a sound and reasonable idea?
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Thursday, 12 December 2019 19:56 (four years ago) link
It's not on quite the level of, like, Dylan Baker spending half a decade to get his Dr. Maplewood passion project off the ground, but it's not that far off.
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Thursday, 12 December 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link
(Fictional example, btw. No libel of Mr. Baker intended.)
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Thursday, 12 December 2019 20:03 (four years ago) link
is the casting of annie Hall age-inappropriate?
It's like an 11-year gap, and it's based on their actual romance, so
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 December 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link
Barbara Kopple's doc Wild Man Blues is better than any WA film of the last 20 years that i've seen. Woody's parents humiliate him at the end.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 December 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link
as will all of our parents
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Friday, 13 December 2019 12:55 (four years ago) link
Can report that A Rainy Day in New York is now on American Airlines domestic flights on demand...
― ... (Eazy), Friday, 27 December 2019 14:39 (four years ago) link
Wasn't sure whether to post this here or in the Literary Clusterfucks thread
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/mar/03/ronan-farrow-hachette-woody-allen-memoir
― the ball comes in, we're like this *grabs assistant coach* (Matt #2), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 13:58 (four years ago) link
big whoop
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 March 2020 02:47 (four years ago) link