Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

Thank you thank you.

Pearson is just utterly deranged.

Jesus.

From the hospital’s own statement: “We are extremely sorry that there were only chairs available in the treatment room, and no bed” https://t.co/pbou6X28so

— Natalie Bloomer (@natalie_bloomer) December 9, 2019

we are in the eye of the storm and people are losing their grip

corbyn, gratifyingly, isn't

he’s calm and campaigning as he usually does

that saundrs tweet of course demonstrating the mendacious and futile opportunism of the lib dems, and gyimah's political career will hopefully be utterly destroyed by cravenly handing kensington to his beloved tory party (unless his ostensible voters see sense in the next two days), but...based on the numbers alone, finchley is a lost cause for labour and it might be time to

*receives tap on shoulder*

graaah fuck it vote labour

today has been weirdly energising ngl

Good on Corbz for tweeting that.

https://t.co/Kcm0Yrsna7 also she's done this amazing video where Matt Hancock seems to be trying to hide an erection

— Loki Rentoul (@Lokinash06) December 9, 2019

Ewwwwwww

i watched this video again today

Make sure that you can say "I helped lay the foundations of a new society". #Lab19 pic.twitter.com/OQwZ15PHqQ

— John McDonnell MP (@johnmcdonnellMP) September 23, 2019

The mirror is leading with a baby forced to lie on a chair in a+e for six hours

bit more resonant in light of this campaign

The *only* difference is that many journalists believe Corbyn to be an illegitimate candidate for the premiership. Fine to think that privately but shouldn’t cover him differently as a result, I think.

— Stephen Bush (@stephenkb) November 8, 2019

Lots of intelligent comments about the othering of Corbyn if you’re prepared to look around. My feeling is that if they can other him, they’ll have no problem othering is.

"that saundrs tweet of course demonstrating the mendacious and futile opportunism of the lib dems"

It's demonstrating the sheer idiocy of tactical voting that you've been advocating for weeks. Own the wrecking.

Finally someone raises this crucial issue of the clear racist expropriation proposed against Travellers in the Tory manifesto.

Young people are often sneered at in the media, but this person has done ten times more than many journalists just by even mentioning this. https://t.co/Topiwgfn8k

— Alex Deam (@someotheralex) December 9, 2019

LOL Tories trying to spin the 'incident' outside the hospital as 'unacceptable public disorder'.

... also trying to say there was nothing unusual about Johnson taking a phone off someone and putting it in his pocket!

xp yeah I saw her do this last night as I was washing the dishes and I nearly dropped a plate cos I was shocked that it came up and the way she kept asking. She really stuck at it as well, I was so impressed by her.

oh my fucking god pic.twitter.com/K2oUWtY19y

— a a dril (@demarionunn) December 10, 2019

starting to think this dystopia we’re living in is, like, bad

some fash prick was making far-right hand signals during QT

This guy was repeatedly making this gesture throughout. Is it some dumb game? #bbcqt pic.twitter.com/iUqpRfNHK9

— Election Kafka (@RuairiWood) December 9, 2019

He'll be invited back for sure.

...for a job interview amirite?

Brexit, actually. pic.twitter.com/4ryuh19c75

— Boris Johnson (@BorisJohnson) December 9, 2019

Good grief.

Rosena Allin-Khan did this first, and better.

I love the QT audience member who raised the ethnic cleansing point. hero

Me too.

OMG if Corbyn had done Mean Tweets once a week through the election campaign the moving vans would be ready and waiting in Downing Street.

The really depressing thing is that these people are going to win, even if they just squeak home, its going to validate every lie and dirty trick played throughout the campaign, and it's going to be worse next time. I genuinely don't know what needs to be done to get out of this.

idk if it ever gets brought up but for hundreds of years, councils were legally obliged to provide halting sites for travelling communities, The Major government killed that and encouraged them to sell the land off for development. Any issues with people staying on sites they're not supposed to is a direct result of Tory policy and the push to privatise public space.

I dont know that they will definitely win. Everyone is completely ignoring Shy Labour

I agree the lies and dirty tricks will get worse next time but if they just squeak home, does that mean those tricks actually worked?

If they do win, it feels like Major 92-97

I genuinely don't know what needs to be done to get out of this.

honestly starting to feel like [redacted] every single one of these fuckers with extreme [redacted] until they start getting the message is our only valid defence against actual global societal collapse

It definitely feels like the left, and part of the centre-left, are going to become more radical as it becomes clearer how far the deck is stacked against them. The BBC stuff feels like a tipping point.

People have seen Grenfell. No truthers for that out there and yet they are voting for it or playing games on tactical voting sites.

No truthers for that out there

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I liked your first link

this is a sam gyimah fan thread now, gonna start spamming pictures of our special lad

can we call him by his real name, simon notebook

speaking of which, we're due a new episode

gonna switch this back to being a laura k fan thread for a sec because i'm reading her piece on the bbc website from yesterday about boris' horrible, no-good, very bad day and uhhh

In response, the Health Secretary, Matt Hancock, was sent to the hospital in Leeds to meet the family, find out what had happened and try to smooth things over.

But he faced trouble too, as a small but very noisy group of protesters shouted at him and his team as they left the building.

The story, and the prime minister's weird and wooden response to it, provided the perfect chance for Labour to punch at one of the Conservatives' vulnerabilities, just when they were trying to make a big play for voters who have traditionally stuck with the Labour Party for generations.

no mention of her role in spreading lies about assault AND the chance to tie labour to the word 'punch' once more? taste's very strange!

honestly, what a snidey wee shite she is

provided the perfect chance for Labour to punch at one of the Conservatives' vulnerabilities

At work here is the Demon of Analogy.

It definitely feels like the left, and part of the centre-left, are going to become more radical as it becomes clearer how far the deck is stacked against them. The BBC stuff feels like a tipping point.

The left will become more radical, it has done in the US and it will follow here but we dont have an equivalent alt-mediasphere that the left have there. BBC is probably at the tipping point CNN/MSNBC were idk...5 years ago? (weirdly Fox helped with this!). I don't necessarily see all this Laura K stuff as a negative, its laying it bare for more people and media distrust in UK is already very high (one of the worst in Europe I think). Legacy media's reach is declining by the day (I know this is complicated by legacy media's social media prescence - twitter as the initiator, facebook as a multiplier)

FB is the unknown, its a black hole, but then given FB's user age profile I don't know if that matters either

Bringing all this stuff out isn't a negative. Its better now than it was in the 2000s not worse

ie they do this because they need to do this. and if they need to do this, thats good

Something I don't quite get:

We all seem to agree that Laura K, every day, spreads propaganda for a brutal, illegitimate, corrupt, lying, proto-fascist / far-right-encouraging political movement, and seeks to discredit a social democratic movement for sustainability and hope.

The part I don't get is - what is her motive?

Is she a lifelong Con voter? Has she always had these beliefs? Has she moved to the Right? Was she ever challenged on these beliefs at any time in any appointment or promotion process? If she is actually a kind of 'moderate Con liberal' a la, say, Amber Rudd, then why has she become more enthusiastic about the Con party as it has become more extreme-right and unhinged?

And: does she know that she is doing the thing we know she is doing, or does she actually think she is being balanced and apolitical? I have a suspicion that it's the latter -- that she genuinely doesn't think her vile propaganda is contentious.

The effect of what she does is plain. But the motive, and her own understanding of it, remains less clear to me.

I used to work at the investment manager who handled her (and her family’s portfolios). she is extremely wealthy

my v superficial impression of laura kuenssberg is that she loves being part of it all, the gossip, in thrall of the establishment

The implied threat to the BBC (and Channel 4) from the government has become increasingly explicit as the campaign has gone on. I wouldn't be surprised if Tory 'sources' have threatened to revoke access as well. The BBC is cowed by the government but its credibility relies on pretending it isn't.

I agree Conrad

DC: then they are not pretending very well?

she strikes me as someone who grew up in privilege and developed an interest in politics as an amusing game of chess between personalities rather than, y'know, a vitally important struggle in which people's lives hang in the balance, and that naturally colours her interpretation and reporting of current affairs

to her, boris is recognisable politics as usual, and corbyn is an alienating outlier

is basically how i break it down to an extent