Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

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the brain donor from Stoke "the coalmines have gone, the pots have gone, it's time for change I'm voting for the Tories"

― calzino, Monday, December 9, 2019 7:42 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

I was amazed (*) to read several big ~reportages~ in Dutch media this weekend about Labour's 'red wall' in coal mine country possibly turning blue for the first time in forever. Vile journalism, done because it's a quick buck. Tonight I heard the same journo writing it unloading his voice recorder in a repo on the national news radio station. Same subject, same quotes. Quick buck.

This thread keeps me sane (-ish).

(*) I wasn't amazed

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 9 December 2019 18:48 (six years ago)

if the era of trust was the background to the first half of the Blair presidency (which it kinda was, despite the foregrounding of Campbell et al) then i'll take the chaos

on the fourteenth of July there wasn't enough freedom to be found among the ruins of unitary power to prevent the ruins themselves from becoming another prison

but every set of ruins is at least another chance

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 December 2019 18:49 (six years ago)

No offense Mark S, as yours are the best (!), but I wish I could de-wire, unlearn my brain to not experience this "I get it, but where does this leave me, or any of us? I'm lost" sinking feeling I get every time I read a "me: / me also:" or "no one: / also no one:" type take.

(ban twitter prob)

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 9 December 2019 18:51 (six years ago)

Twitter is not journalism - in fact it's almost uniquely badly designed for it - but public broadcasters need to either admit that and stop using it to break stories OR they need to apply the same stringent rules they use for everything else. This mess in the middle benefits no one least of all the institutions themselves.

Matt DC, Monday, 9 December 2019 18:52 (six years ago)

grim thing is if there hadn't been a video, it would have been tomorrow's headlines and dominated the news cycle for 24 hours

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Monday, 9 December 2019 18:54 (six years ago)

As it is it draws attention to the fact that a boy was sleeping on coats on a hospital floor, terrific work Tory HQ.

Matt DC, Monday, 9 December 2019 18:57 (six years ago)

Twitter is good again.

I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Monday, 9 December 2019 18:58 (six years ago)

at work, has kuenssberg resigned yet

imago, Monday, 9 December 2019 19:00 (six years ago)

Tory advisors out here having the pain threshold, and politics of, Patrick Bamford

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Monday, 9 December 2019 19:03 (six years ago)

they need to apply the same stringent rules they use for everything else

the rules that currently exist are in my opinion not really that stringent, certainly nowhere near stringent enough: the pressure twitter brings is revealing this

(viz peston not revealing who the "senior tories" are who lied to him) (dispensing with this particular omerta is ultimately why gawker was casually allowed to be smashed)

mark s, Monday, 9 December 2019 19:04 (six years ago)

Oh great, it’s all hands on deck at Fondue Towers because people have the temerity to object to “politically homeless” as glib in the face of the housing crisis now.

santa clause four (suzy), Monday, 9 December 2019 19:35 (six years ago)

jesus, kuenssberg actually apologised, as did peston

did not actually anticipate that

now i wonder why the tories told them to

Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Monday, 9 December 2019 19:41 (six years ago)

The next 3 days are going to be lit

Rumours beginning to circulate that momentum thugs are planning bio-attacks at a number of polling stations. Sources believe there may be Assad involvement. Veracity of list being verified as we speak

anvil, Monday, 9 December 2019 19:55 (six years ago)

must feel pretty sweet

After getting snubbed from his campaign bus, the Daily Mirror has produced two splashes that have derailed Johnson’s campaign — The comments about single mothers & the photo of the Leeds hospital boy. pic.twitter.com/MONJa8fVtL

— Mark Di Stefano 🤙🏻 (@MarkDiStef) December 9, 2019

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Monday, 9 December 2019 19:58 (six years ago)

Possibly a hoax as evidence confusing, may not be real weapons, suggestions merely designed to depress turnout rather than maim

anvil, Monday, 9 December 2019 19:58 (six years ago)

jesus, kuenssberg actually apologised, as did peston

did not actually anticipate that

now i wonder why the tories told them to


Well now the story is “bbc are shit, maybe boris is right about the license fee” and not “look at boris nicking a journalists phone when confronted with the effects of Tory policy”

For how much longer do we tolerate trashed purdah? (wins), Monday, 9 December 2019 19:59 (six years ago)

Tomorrow will make three https://t.co/LNKtlxlbns

— Kevin Maguire (@Kevin_Maguire) December 9, 2019

For how much longer do we tolerate trashed purdah? (wins), Monday, 9 December 2019 20:04 (six years ago)

i'd be (mildly) interested to know how much the punch story derailed the phone story on facebook (which i seem to have set to avoid all politics all the time except when oor neechie posts something): the attention-span dynamics are very different there

mark s, Monday, 9 December 2019 20:08 (six years ago)

kberg did not actually apologise just "happy TO apologise"

nashwan, Monday, 9 December 2019 20:10 (six years ago)

"happy to apologize" = "i was caught out so, for once, i'll let you have this one"

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 9 December 2019 20:15 (six years ago)

"happy to apologize" = "i was caught out so, for once, i'll let you have this one"

"On this particular occasion it was a false alarm. We did our best but missed the momentum thugs by a couple of minutes. Will update as soon as we locate them"

anvil, Monday, 9 December 2019 20:20 (six years ago)

They scarpered to certain online lefty spheres to carry out their nefarious misdeeds

For how much longer do we tolerate trashed purdah? (wins), Monday, 9 December 2019 20:22 (six years ago)

"me 20 years ago: i greatly distrust the bbc and the guardian, they are really in many ways not better than the tabs or the times or the telegraph, if only everyone saw this"

Was the BBC always like this though? Should it really be lumped with the guardian?

xyzzzz__, Monday, 9 December 2019 20:29 (six years ago)

Real chaos - burning cars and tactical voting sites

xyzzzz__, Monday, 9 December 2019 20:30 (six years ago)

one burning car

mark s, Monday, 9 December 2019 20:31 (six years ago)

(so far)

xyzzzz__, Monday, 9 December 2019 20:38 (six years ago)

Serious question: when you’re constantly lied to by sources (on any side), does there come a point where you feel you should name and shame them? After all they can make you look foolish.

— Gary Lineker (@GaryLineker) December 9, 2019

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 9 December 2019 20:39 (six years ago)

Nice 1 @BoardofDeputies ya picked a real championhttps://t.co/w3CckWEga1

— jewdⒶs // ייִדהודה (@jewdas) December 9, 2019

calzino, Monday, 9 December 2019 20:43 (six years ago)

its an apology, lets not

happy to apologize" = "i was caught out so, for once, i'll let you have this one"

― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 9 December 2019 20:15 (twenty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

well no she's often caught tbh

Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Monday, 9 December 2019 20:45 (six years ago)

The Joe Pike clip is so weird because you can't see him pocket the phone. Even though it's out of shot you'd imagine you'd still be able to see evidence of it happening but nothing seems to happen at all. In addition it almost impossible to get your head around why he did it / why he thought it was okay / why he thought he'd get away with it.

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Monday, 9 December 2019 20:46 (six years ago)

xp We'll need a "What is apologising and has the meaning changed" thread but I'm not going there. Not with this specimen.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 9 December 2019 20:50 (six years ago)

apology fetishism yes

Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Monday, 9 December 2019 20:51 (six years ago)

i know i keep coming back to this but as someone who always runs away from the difficult bits -- a massive coward with only a very few coping tactics under a LOT more stress right now than he ever bargained for -- this is him responding with everything he has

mark s, Monday, 9 December 2019 20:54 (six years ago)

apology centrism morelike

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 9 December 2019 20:54 (six years ago)

This was surprisingly fun. pic.twitter.com/Tjl60l70bl

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) December 9, 2019

OMG

gyac, Monday, 9 December 2019 20:56 (six years ago)

THIS IS TOO ADORABLE

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Monday, 9 December 2019 20:59 (six years ago)

bet you those logs were chopped in siberian gulags

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 9 December 2019 21:00 (six years ago)

pic.twitter.com/Hczb3lc5aI

— Waluigitifo (@waluigitifo) December 9, 2019

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Monday, 9 December 2019 21:01 (six years ago)

holy shit that is excellent!

calzino, Monday, 9 December 2019 21:09 (six years ago)

the brain donor from Stoke "the coalmines have gone, the pots have gone, it's time for change I'm voting for the Tories"

― calzino, Monday, December 9, 2019 7:42 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

I was amazed (*) to read several big ~reportages~ in Dutch media this weekend about Labour's 'red wall' in coal mine country possibly turning blue for the first time in forever. Vile journalism, done because it's a quick buck. Tonight I heard the same journo writing it unloading his voice recorder in a repo on the national news radio station. Same subject, same quotes. Quick buck.

This thread keeps me sane (-ish).

(*) I wasn't amazed

On the 8 o’clock news tonight as well.
the brain donor from Stoke "the coalmines have gone, the pots have gone, it's time for change I'm voting for the Tories"

― calzino, Monday, December 9, 2019 7:42 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

I was amazed (*) to read several big ~reportages~ in Dutch media this weekend about Labour's 'red wall' in coal mine country possibly turning blue for the first time in forever. Vile journalism, done because it's a quick buck. Tonight I heard the same journo writing it unloading his voice recorder in a repo on the national news radio station. Same subject, same quotes. Quick buck.

This thread keeps me sane (-ish).

(*) I wasn't amazed

He did this on the 8 o’clock news tonight as well.

Well, we also have our former Blairite Labour minister of Finance / EU big shot Dijsselbloem regularly appearing on the biggest (left-of-centre) talk show on Dutch TV as a guest expert on British politics being allowed to spout his anti-Corbyn hysteria without any pushback whatsoever.

breastcrawl, Monday, 9 December 2019 21:09 (six years ago)

Aye, just saw it was the lead on the NOS. That's the same story (and invoice) sent three times over, dominating the news cycle about the GE here for days on end.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 9 December 2019 21:11 (six years ago)

There'll be dancing in the streets of Bolsover.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 9 December 2019 21:12 (six years ago)

Angela Rayner totally cracking me up on this QT election thing, already killed swinson and farage with her sarcasm

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Monday, 9 December 2019 21:20 (six years ago)

she’s great isn’t she??

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 9 December 2019 21:28 (six years ago)

WOULD YOU NATIONALISE SAUSAGES

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Monday, 9 December 2019 21:29 (six years ago)

Haha yes wtf

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Monday, 9 December 2019 21:35 (six years ago)

i so wanted rayner to say "no", smile patronizingly and ask where barnett got that one, laura keunssberg's timeline?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 9 December 2019 21:38 (six years ago)

Rayner is a force, it's taken a while for people to notice and even the melts who have condescendingly insulted her for years must be slowly realising she is much better at the media bullshit side of the game than any of their gallery of top melts they kept nomming for GNU or insisting would have Labour 20 pts ahead of this shower etc..

calzino, Monday, 9 December 2019 21:41 (six years ago)

I love her.

santa clause four (suzy), Monday, 9 December 2019 21:46 (six years ago)

I can think of no better example of a politician perfectly matched to a ministerial position than Angela Rayner as education secretary and this is possibly the most exciting outcome of a Corbyn government to me personally.

plax (ico), Monday, 9 December 2019 21:51 (six years ago)


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