Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

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and that's just in this thread

mark s, Sunday, 8 December 2019 11:24 (six years ago)

That’s such a wonderful post, pinefox.

Yesterday someone said yes, they were going to vote. Do you mind telling me who for? I ask. Who are you with again, she says, peeking from behind the door so that I can only see her eyes. Labour, I say. OK yes, Labour, she says. Didn’t feel too confident with that one.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 8 December 2019 11:34 (six years ago)

Acquaintance of mine works in polling stations, and tells me there's always a few who come in and say "ooh, I've no idea who to vote for!". And for every one of them there's probably about 20 who aren't saying it. Which is why I'm expecting Cons to launch some unanswerable-because-it-doesn't-make-any-sense bullshit on about Tuesday or Wednesday this week, so dumbwits like this will have something to cling onto in the polling booth.

Sent me the wrong t-shirt it says let’s summon demons (Matt #2), Sunday, 8 December 2019 11:38 (six years ago)

this is a great tool
https://action.labour.org.uk/page/content/personal-manifesto/

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Sunday, 8 December 2019 11:51 (six years ago)

Boris is a nonce #SaveTheNHS

— Jeremy Corbyn (@JackHenno_13) December 7, 2019

If you're going to get yrself banned from Twitter, make it count.

Matt DC, Sunday, 8 December 2019 12:22 (six years ago)

what a weird thing to say at 0:55 in this clip

Massive moment from Gordon Brown.

Jeremy Corbyn is correct. We were wrong about the neoliberal consensus. pic.twitter.com/ZUCK4d0BPV

— Tory Fibs (@ToryFibs) December 6, 2019

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Sunday, 8 December 2019 13:22 (six years ago)

there was a good/poignant interview with gordon brown on the guardian around the time of indyref (maybe just after) but I can't find it. anyone remember it?

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Sunday, 8 December 2019 13:30 (six years ago)

xxp it’s still up over 12 hours later!

gyac, Sunday, 8 December 2019 13:33 (six years ago)

It's passed the stringent twitter fact checking procedure

calzino, Sunday, 8 December 2019 13:56 (six years ago)

Huge turnout today for @HendonLabour. We are gonna #TurnHendonRed for that sweet, sweet transformative @UKLabour government 🔥🌹💪 pic.twitter.com/o347jribTx

— Simon Vessey (@Simon_Vessey) December 8, 2019

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Sunday, 8 December 2019 14:47 (six years ago)

So I’ve just been informed I did a canvassing round with someone from Chumbawumba so I am a bit starstruck after the fact.

— Sinan Kose (@TheSinanKose) December 8, 2019

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 December 2019 15:54 (six years ago)

Like Chuwumbawumba, Jeremy Corbyn keeps getting knocked out, but he gets up again. They’re never gonna keep him down.

— Sebastian Payne (@SebastianEPayne) June 8, 2019

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Sunday, 8 December 2019 15:59 (six years ago)

Mmmmm delicious

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELOJsMeWsAAVor5?format=jpg

piscesx, Sunday, 8 December 2019 15:59 (six years ago)

Any Lib Dem supporter who persists on voting Lib Dem in that constituency should be hunted down and shot.

I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Sunday, 8 December 2019 16:04 (six years ago)

Yeah i know right, it's crazy!

The tactical voting stuff this year has been fantastic on Twitter and this morning i notice it's all over the papers in great detail.

piscesx, Sunday, 8 December 2019 16:10 (six years ago)

The impact of attempting to correct these sources of error is as follows:

Polling average
Con +10%

Turnout modelled to GE 2017 across all polls
-1.6%

EU Ref demographic changes
-2.4%

Re-weighting 2017 DNV's/New voters:
-2.84%

Actual Con lead: 2.86%

END

— Dr Moderate (@centrist_phone) December 8, 2019

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Sunday, 8 December 2019 16:58 (six years ago)

trust no threads

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Sunday, 8 December 2019 17:02 (six years ago)

whatever your opinion on tactical voting as a practice (i don't think much of it at all, but concede in certain instances it might have its uses) the way it's been deployed this GE has been so nakedly dishonest and manipulative, it's gone beyond the '£350m for the nhs' bus shit
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Stan The Golden Boy
‏Verified account @tristandross
4h4 hours ago

i can't emphasise enough how it's basically asking labour voters to throw their vote away for a party they don't support, which will, in numerous cases, result in tory wins - in order to perpetuate these twin narratives of 'the lib dem fightback' and 'corbyn labour losses'
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Stan The Golden Boy
‏Verified account @tristandross
4h4 hours ago

fucking hate this sabermetrics 'moneyball'-applied-to-politics tactical vote conception of democracy as something that should only be cynically gamed, and not about giving a popular mandate to policy ideas. rotten shit that treats you as a metric to be maximised, not a person

plax (ico), Sunday, 8 December 2019 17:12 (six years ago)

lol sorry i dont know how to post

plax (ico), Sunday, 8 December 2019 17:13 (six years ago)

Agreed, this is why PR is better than FPTP - assuming it's legitimately PR

The dishonesty around tactical voting this election obviously serves the usual suspects and actually diminishes the Lib Dems's credibility when "we are poorly served by FPTP" is one of the few genuine arguments they have

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 December 2019 17:18 (six years ago)

pic.twitter.com/ZBRIzJTonA

— Div (@askforcawmbyok) December 8, 2019

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 December 2019 17:26 (six years ago)

plax otm we are really flirting with death with tactical voting. But as long as it fucks the left that's ok.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 December 2019 17:43 (six years ago)

I'm in a "sponsor a labour campaigner" fb group (where activists can be linked up with people who can't canvass but have funds to support their travel etc)... and it is so wholesome. have to say that (from what I remember from 2017) the activist/ground game feels a lot more substantial. I only have a very narrow window into it (via e.g. the couple hundred people I follow on twitter) but even then it feels markedly bigger

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Sunday, 8 December 2019 17:44 (six years ago)

Fixed it. pic.twitter.com/8H8LPdxxEK

— Balcony Shirts (@balconyshirts) December 8, 2019

lol what a risible tool

calzino, Sunday, 8 December 2019 17:51 (six years ago)

Contemplating Rangers getting beat, get it up you

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 December 2019 17:56 (six years ago)

lol get fucked

😬 pic.twitter.com/4IBehi0XWT

— 🚩 The Election Leftorium 🗳️ (@LeftoriumThe) December 8, 2019

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Sunday, 8 December 2019 18:05 (six years ago)

if IDS isn't doing good in their constituency polling then perhaps they might not like boris either

calzino, Sunday, 8 December 2019 18:45 (six years ago)

I am not sure at all that many Labour voters will sling a vote to the LibDems in most constituencies with the exception of some of the more affluent areas in or around London where the LDs might genuinely oust the Tory incumbent. Swinson has quite conspicuously failed to detoxify her party among most Labour voters.

Matt DC, Sunday, 8 December 2019 18:48 (six years ago)

He’s definitely rattled. He’s my local MP and he turned up on our doorstep last week. Never seen him before. He told us that If we voted Labour we would lose our house. Really weird conversation. Voting Labour of course pic.twitter.com/ByS5Qt9FD3

— Will Goring (@willgoring) December 1, 2019

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Sunday, 8 December 2019 18:51 (six years ago)

I’ll feel ill if LDs undermine Emma Dent Coad out of her seat in Kensington because Sam Gyimah is such a schmuck.

santa clause four (suzy), Sunday, 8 December 2019 18:53 (six years ago)

god i would love it if IDS knocked on my door

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 December 2019 18:54 (six years ago)

https://timeentertainment.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/nosferatu.jpg

mark s, Sunday, 8 December 2019 18:55 (six years ago)

i want to see if he can do the levitating bolt upright thing irl

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 December 2019 19:00 (six years ago)

i feel bad for count orlok now tbh, yes a bloodthirsty demon without scruple but he surely hasn't earned this dismal association

mark s, Sunday, 8 December 2019 19:02 (six years ago)

The only campaigning I've been doing is throwing mudballs and clumps of dirty leaves at two Vote Conservative signs near my house and I told some Tory leafleters to fuck off, but even if I had movie star looks and charm I couldn't bring myself to tell someone to vote LibDem - even in a tight marginal. Fuck them forever.

calzino, Sunday, 8 December 2019 19:03 (six years ago)

between IDS, Rentoul and Frank Field it's possible that the undead have been traduced enough

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 December 2019 19:03 (six years ago)

LibDem voters in Putney, please vote Labour for Fleur Anderson as you should for Faiza Shaheem inChingford Meanwhile Labour voters return the favour and vote tactically LibDem in both Westminster and Kensington. Our voting system imposes brutal choices. https://t.co/VpEMFWSmIA

— Will Hutton (@williamnhutton) December 8, 2019

This could just kill us all in the end

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 December 2019 19:14 (six years ago)

Lib Dems need the Labour vote in Richmond Park and a few other places in greater southwest London and nowhere else.

santa clause four (suzy), Sunday, 8 December 2019 19:28 (six years ago)

and Finchley ;)

would you believe there are people still going on about the queen's speech thing on the football forums

imago, Sunday, 8 December 2019 19:43 (six years ago)

you on follow follow ?

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Sunday, 8 December 2019 19:48 (six years ago)

nah wait what

imago, Sunday, 8 December 2019 19:54 (six years ago)

Finding the whole ‘Corbyn fans want us to tactical vote now but were hostile to us for being centrists’ v. depressing. Yes, no one should’ve been preachy or divisive. But honestly, as if it matters. I doubt kids starving due to Universal Credit care what’s happened on Twitter.

— Frances Ryan (@DrFrancesRyan) December 8, 2019

I like Frances a lot but...no begging from me, centrists can get fucked.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 December 2019 20:03 (six years ago)

after decades of been arrogantly told no opposition party is credible without appealing to them - just totally fuck them and let them start another party for the lols.

calzino, Sunday, 8 December 2019 20:07 (six years ago)

I like Frances a lot but she has a blind spot with certain Labour melts who awarded huge contracts to ATOS for WCA that actually caused disabled people to die.

calzino, Sunday, 8 December 2019 20:23 (six years ago)

They tried that this year and it got them the square root of fuck all. Most of them (except for Jewish people who are cross with the current leadership) have such demanding-to-speak-to-a-manager energy and one friend got very cross with me for objecting to his use of ‘politically homeless’ (he owns two flats but I did not mention that).

I think what’s necessary is to find a new non-pejorative term for centrist/moderate because these assumed liberal bias people are neither of these things. They are quick to build strawmen into their arguments, quick to cast aspersions on others, and extremely condescending to even those of us who are polite in our disagreements. I fucking hate having to manage their emotions to prevent them from damaging or insulting me.

santa clause four (suzy), Sunday, 8 December 2019 20:24 (six years ago)

🐦[Finding the whole ‘Corbyn fans want us to tactical vote now but were hostile to us for being centrists’ v. depressing. Yes, no one should’ve been preachy or divisive. But honestly, as if it matters. I doubt kids starving due to Universal Credit care what’s happened on Twitter.
— Frances Ryan (@DrFrancesRyan) December 8, 2019🕸]🐦

I like Frances a lot but...no begging from me, centrists can get fucked.


Whole load of smugness emanating from centrist twitter this evening, that whole dangling their vote out as though they were going to vote Labour anyway. Cool, let’s have a government that continues to kill people through policy, that reforms the electoral system so you can’t vote them out, and that you profess not to stand. Politics is a game to these people, and they were never the bastions of civility that they now claim politics was pre-Corbyn. Guarantee you search 90% of these peoples timelines you won’t find anything about the Labour campaigners assaulted, about the Windrush deportees, about universal credit. I voted for Miliband even though I didn’t like his policies, even though they used immigration as a literal selling point. But people expect endless ~civility from the left that they never extend themselves. Cunts.

gyac, Sunday, 8 December 2019 20:29 (six years ago)

Never mind Miliband, some of us saps voted for Blair! More than once too!!

I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Sunday, 8 December 2019 20:37 (six years ago)

I was pleased to see a friend of mine who lives in Putney constituency and is a card-carrying Lib Dem say he will definitely be voting Labour.

santa clause four (suzy), Sunday, 8 December 2019 20:40 (six years ago)

just been chatting with a LibDemer elsewhere: "I can't abide Corbyn even though I'm voting for him. I simply loathe Johnson and all he stands for."

calzino, Sunday, 8 December 2019 20:43 (six years ago)

plenty on the left held their nose and voted for war criminal tony blair - am sure they can do the same to help lift 4m children out of poverty

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Sunday, 8 December 2019 20:58 (six years ago)


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