Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

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lol Friends of The earth have said Labour are greener than the Green Party atm and Caroline is having a boo about crude tickboxes!

calzino, Saturday, 7 December 2019 17:16 (six years ago)

"all my relatives had those sacred heart of Jesus things on their walls"

with the little red light? when I was a kid i thought: Cool, all year round xmas decorations

calzino, Saturday, 7 December 2019 17:21 (six years ago)

went canvassing today a lot closer to home, in Walthamstow, and man what a different vibe from Westminster/City of London! Labour posters everywhere, in windows, in vans, everyone totally friendly. two "don't knows", one Green, everyone else on our list Labour. extremely good for the soul if not exactly crucial given how safe the seat is. my son very happy that he finally got to do the spiel on the doorstep a few times all by himself, which tickled quite a few people.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 7 December 2019 17:30 (six years ago)

Sure sex is good but have you ever convinced a woman in her mid-50s, who’s almost always voted conservative, to vote labour on her own doorstep

— Simon Renshaw (@SiRenshaw) December 7, 2019

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 7 December 2019 17:51 (six years ago)

Christmas Canvassing. Gotta love it! ⁦@UKLabourpic.twitter.com/6OE3fHmuJW

— David Rowntree (@DaveRowntree) December 7, 2019

santa clause four (suzy), Saturday, 7 December 2019 19:14 (six years ago)

Blur is good again.

I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Saturday, 7 December 2019 19:18 (six years ago)

Let's not get silly

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 7 December 2019 19:28 (six years ago)

Dave Rowntree endorsed and voted for Liz Kendall in the 2015 Labour leadership election.

santa clause four (suzy), Saturday, 7 December 2019 19:56 (six years ago)

Blur is bad again.

I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Saturday, 7 December 2019 19:59 (six years ago)

purge 'im!

calzino, Saturday, 7 December 2019 20:02 (six years ago)

what makes a person do something like that? what hidden darknesses, what cracks in the moral nature could lead to such a thing?

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 7 December 2019 20:07 (six years ago)

Endorsements in the 2015 Labour Party leadership election
Liz Kendall

David Aaronovitch, journalist[98]
Nick Cohen, journalist[99]
Philip Collins, journalist
Rod Liddle, journalist[100]
John Mills, businessman and party donor[101]
John Rentoul, journalist[102]
Dave Rowntree, Blur drummer, solicitor, animator, and political activist[103]

calzino, Saturday, 7 December 2019 20:18 (six years ago)

posts you had third thoughts abt

mark s, Saturday, 7 December 2019 20:20 (six years ago)

just 2nd thoughts bout posting them to the correct thread!

but Rod fucking Liddle?

calzino, Saturday, 7 December 2019 20:21 (six years ago)

lol like Aaronovitch or Cohen or Liddle or Rentoul have the interests of the Labour party at heart

― éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 7 December 2019 20:21 (thirty-one seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 7 December 2019 20:22 (six years ago)

Good on @GNev2 for pointing out the link between the apparent rise of racism in society (not just football) and the politics of certain politicians over the past few years. Namecheck for their role model and ringleader, Boris Johnson.

pic.twitter.com/x5fRzitF2e

— Jim Boardman (@JimBoardman) December 7, 2019

gyac, Saturday, 7 December 2019 20:44 (six years ago)

well it pains me to say it but good on you, Gary

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 7 December 2019 20:45 (six years ago)

good greatest hits speech from big john mcd tonight - special guests also included dave ward, manuel cortes, shami chakrabarti (who gave a weirdly rambling speech) and wee dickie leonard

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Saturday, 7 December 2019 21:02 (six years ago)

I'm prepping for the #LifeInTheUK test. As a #Polish person, I find the tone of this question jarring, to say the least. The prescribed answer is TRUE. pic.twitter.com/vmCjuDMIci

— Joanna Bagniewska (@JMBagniewska) December 6, 2019

this type of jingoistic ahistorical bullshit being employed to harass EU citizens in the UK is so embarrassingly imbecilic and offensive - I hate this fucking government so much.

calzino, Saturday, 7 December 2019 21:04 (six years ago)

angela 'funny tinge' smith's latest video is a joy to a behold pic.twitter.com/JX3zt2sAXN

— jack (@jrc1921) December 6, 2019

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Saturday, 7 December 2019 21:04 (six years ago)

xp
although prof D Edgerton notes the acknowledgement that they were a global Empire rather than a small country is baby step forwards for ppl that parrot this shite.

calzino, Saturday, 7 December 2019 21:08 (six years ago)

this type of jingoistic ahistorical bullshit being employed to harass EU citizens in the UK is so embarrassingly imbecilic and offensive - I hate this fucking government so much.

I might've mentioned this before at an ILB FAP, but I took this test, and what struck me most was that the WWII section had no reference whatsoever to the holocaust.

There was also the "The UK is a diverse and dynamic nation which welcomes those who want to make a positive contribution to society T/F" question, but frankly I needed the laugh.

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 7 December 2019 22:11 (six years ago)

That was very good from Gary Neville - presumably in the knowledge it would go viral. Shame about the lack of reaction shots from the rest of the panel.

Matt DC, Saturday, 7 December 2019 22:15 (six years ago)

xp jesus wept, just going short of "are you a terrorist ? y/n" levels of idiocy.

calzino, Saturday, 7 December 2019 22:42 (six years ago)

It made me laugh when Phil Nev was in millionaires union mode and saying footballers should withdraw their oh-so valuable contributions to social media every time there is a racist incident at a football match. I don't know if he got Dean Windass to sign up to this proposed "strike"!

calzino, Saturday, 7 December 2019 22:44 (six years ago)

Anti cuts. Pro trims. pic.twitter.com/luHJ6bYPSt

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) December 7, 2019

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Saturday, 7 December 2019 23:27 (six years ago)

I just nearly threw my radio out of the window when that cunt Nolan replayed his interview with Corbz from '15 - where shock horror - something like 3 times he refused to make a standard mealy mouthed and worthless politician arsehole condemnation of the IRA.

calzino, Saturday, 7 December 2019 23:33 (six years ago)

Can't imagine why that's a big deal to Nolan

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 7 December 2019 23:34 (six years ago)

Fucking hell that citizenship test question made me angry.

My wife took the citizenship test years ago and they didn't have anything like as egregious a question as that, there was some questionable stuff on it (not that I can remember an example) but nothing like that ahistorical nonsense. that was under Tony Blair or Gordon Brown though. she never ended up getting citizenship, we decided we couldn't really afford it and it didn't really change anything anyway apart from voting rights. or at least just being a resident was OK back then.

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 7 December 2019 23:48 (six years ago)

lol yougov


Who won the last debate?

Britain Elects 33,000 votes

Corbyn 57% Johnson 28%

Paul Brand ITV 30,000 votes

Corbyn 78% Johnson 22%

Martin Lewis 23,000 votes

Corbyn 47% Johnson 25%

The Times 8,000 votes

Corbyn 63% Johnson 37%

YouGov 1,646 polled

Corbyn 48% Johnson 51%

— Philip Lewis #VOTE LABOUR 12 DEC #JC4PM (@philewis) December 6, 2019

"Big Joe Fuck and the Bogalusa Maniac" (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 8 December 2019 08:41 (six years ago)

lol eugenics


Boris Johnson states the UK public are "Far from equal in raw ability, if not in spiritual worth". He also says "It is surely relevant, to a conversation about equality, that as many of 16% of our species have an IQ below 85" and "Some measurement of inequality is essential". 😲 pic.twitter.com/Lk1E2Z2iYN

— The Labour Leftie 🌹 (@TheLabourLeftie) December 6, 2019

"Big Joe Fuck and the Bogalusa Maniac" (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 8 December 2019 08:45 (six years ago)

Yesterday: canvassing near Blackheath (Lewisham East), visited by Sir Keir Starmer. The only respondent who sticks in the mind is the young man who said he used to be Con, will vote Lib Dem, it's all about JC and JC 'hasn't done it for him'. Smarmy bad person.

The other thing that bamboozled me - a thing I forget till I go out and talk to such people - is how many people are just not interested, won't vote, or even if they will, haven't thought about it yet, and quite often can't remember how they voted last time. It's unthinkable to me but for many people, politics just doesn't figure in their minds. Understandable in that so much of politics, like the government, is vile, but these people need to vote to change that.

Then travelled with my MP down to Croydon and went on two rounds of canvassing. The Labour majority here is 5,652, bigger than I'd thought, but it's considered an important marginal. Went round an estate where every road is named for a UK athlete: Christie Crescent, Gunnell Close, Akabusi Drive. Again many people not wanting to engage or talk at all. Some enthusiastically and definitely Labour. A big white bloke with a white van and a chaotic dishevelled garden eventually answering the door: 'I won't be voting for you, cos you don't wanna do Brexit'. Another extraordinary black woman going into a long, despairing rant about slavery, saying that black people should never have been brought to this country.

So many activists in Croydon. People at HQ all day sticking envelopes to go out. Teams of canvassers coming and going. Hard to believe an operation like this isn't going to win, even increase the majority, though I heard that boundary changes affected it. David Lammy turned up from Tottenham, gave a speech saying 'It's gonna be close'; I heard him privately talking to local MP / candidate Sarah Jones about potential Con losses like Watford. Overall he didn't sound very pessimistic. I told him the Tottenham Hotspur scoreline and he told me of his doubts about Daniel Levy's influence on the club. He calls Pochettino 'Pooch'.

Into the evening, canvassing in the dark, coming across undecided voters on an affluent middle-class road. Lammy and Jones had rather self-indulgently long conversations with them, especially a bloke I dug out of a family occasion who seemed to enjoy sharing his undecided waffle with us for about 15 minutes. Leaflets through many other doors.

It's healthy to get out into the campaign. A different view from online, let alone MSM. One simple and important thing it reminds me of is the fact that there are people who are very strongly pro and anti Brexit, not just in 'the North', but even these South London constituencies. Both are doubtful about Labour. But Labour's is by far the best Brexit policy, the only way through these extremes, and we shouldn't be ashamed of it at all. Just taking a 'cancel Brexit' line or the like would have turned off even more people than we have already lost.

Unsure where to go next. Might possibly go back to Croydon on polling day.

the pinefox, Sunday, 8 December 2019 09:57 (six years ago)

observer tactical voting guide is trash lads

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Sunday, 8 December 2019 10:52 (six years ago)

So you’re saying people shouldn’t vote SNP in a Labour-held seat where the SNP candidate has been suspended for antisemitism?

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Sunday, 8 December 2019 11:02 (six years ago)

It’s bizarre and seems intentionally designed to mislead potential Labour voters nationally. They can’t have been this sloppy and incorrect accidentally, even if it is the Observer.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Sunday, 8 December 2019 11:03 (six years ago)

observer tactical voting guide is trash lads

Good job it'll be read about 12 people then.

I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Sunday, 8 December 2019 11:06 (six years ago)

Great post pinefox

and quite often can't remember how they voted last time. It's unthinkable to me but for many people, politics just doesn't figure in their minds

This correlates with that Dr. Moderate thread on Twitter upthread about 'people suddenly remembering who they voted for last time' closer to the day.

nashwan, Sunday, 8 December 2019 11:14 (six years ago)

Never forget that there are people out there who don't know who the Prime Minster is and have no clue who Jeremy Corbyn is.

I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Sunday, 8 December 2019 11:22 (six years ago)

... quite a lot of people, I suspect

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Sunday, 8 December 2019 11:23 (six years ago)

and that's just in this thread

mark s, Sunday, 8 December 2019 11:24 (six years ago)

That’s such a wonderful post, pinefox.

Yesterday someone said yes, they were going to vote. Do you mind telling me who for? I ask. Who are you with again, she says, peeking from behind the door so that I can only see her eyes. Labour, I say. OK yes, Labour, she says. Didn’t feel too confident with that one.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 8 December 2019 11:34 (six years ago)

Acquaintance of mine works in polling stations, and tells me there's always a few who come in and say "ooh, I've no idea who to vote for!". And for every one of them there's probably about 20 who aren't saying it. Which is why I'm expecting Cons to launch some unanswerable-because-it-doesn't-make-any-sense bullshit on about Tuesday or Wednesday this week, so dumbwits like this will have something to cling onto in the polling booth.

Sent me the wrong t-shirt it says let’s summon demons (Matt #2), Sunday, 8 December 2019 11:38 (six years ago)

this is a great tool
https://action.labour.org.uk/page/content/personal-manifesto/

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Sunday, 8 December 2019 11:51 (six years ago)

Boris is a nonce #SaveTheNHS

— Jeremy Corbyn (@JackHenno_13) December 7, 2019

If you're going to get yrself banned from Twitter, make it count.

Matt DC, Sunday, 8 December 2019 12:22 (six years ago)

what a weird thing to say at 0:55 in this clip

Massive moment from Gordon Brown.

Jeremy Corbyn is correct. We were wrong about the neoliberal consensus. pic.twitter.com/ZUCK4d0BPV

— Tory Fibs (@ToryFibs) December 6, 2019

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Sunday, 8 December 2019 13:22 (six years ago)

there was a good/poignant interview with gordon brown on the guardian around the time of indyref (maybe just after) but I can't find it. anyone remember it?

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Sunday, 8 December 2019 13:30 (six years ago)

xxp it’s still up over 12 hours later!

gyac, Sunday, 8 December 2019 13:33 (six years ago)

It's passed the stringent twitter fact checking procedure

calzino, Sunday, 8 December 2019 13:56 (six years ago)

Huge turnout today for @HendonLabour. We are gonna #TurnHendonRed for that sweet, sweet transformative @UKLabour government 🔥🌹💪 pic.twitter.com/o347jribTx

— Simon Vessey (@Simon_Vessey) December 8, 2019

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Sunday, 8 December 2019 14:47 (six years ago)


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