Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

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Гертча!

off to see big john mcd speak only glasgow. will report back

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talking of all this Russian stuff, this is something I didn't know about Prof Adam Tooze:

Tooze is a grandson of the British civil servant and Soviet spy Arthur Wynn and his wife, Peggy Moxon. Tooze's 2006 book, The Wages of Destruction, is dedicated to them.

I see our local Conservative candidate has now been accused of antisemitism and islamophobia, "we should be able to exploit the disabled" not enough. she'll still probably end up winning

what concerns me slightly is that around Hastings in 2017 there were loads of Labour posters in windows. this time I'm hardly seeing any posters for any party. guess people are fed up with elections

I requested a window poster last week when Labour phoned me and they still haven't sent me. Have they run out or something?

Westminster Voting Intention:

CON: 42% (=)
LAB: 36% (+4)
LDM: 11% (-1)
BXP: 4% (+1)
GRN: 2% (=)

Via @SavantaComRes, 2-5 Dec.
Changes w/ 2-3 Dec.

— Election Maps UK (@ElectionMapsUK) December 7, 2019

decent sized crowd here already (starts at 5) for a dreich saturday night

SavantaComRades

I can't have my hopes raised like that. It's bad for me. I'll end up crying on the bus.

I always said the only pollsters that really know what they are doing are those SavantaComRade lads.

what concerns me slightly is that around Hastings in 2017 there were loads of Labour posters in windows. this time I'm hardly seeing any posters for any party. guess people are fed up with elections

I almost get dewy-eyed at childhood memories of endless rows of Vote Labour posters throughout the whole estate. Some of these weirdos used to put Christ Is Risen posters up at Easter as well!

I was about to say how weird that is, before remembering how almost all my relatives had those sacred heart of Jesus things on their walls

lol there's one round the corner from me got the "Vote Labour" poster up and a handwritten "Religious people please don't knock here" next to it

lol Friends of The earth have said Labour are greener than the Green Party atm and Caroline is having a boo about crude tickboxes!

"all my relatives had those sacred heart of Jesus things on their walls"

with the little red light? when I was a kid i thought: Cool, all year round xmas decorations

went canvassing today a lot closer to home, in Walthamstow, and man what a different vibe from Westminster/City of London! Labour posters everywhere, in windows, in vans, everyone totally friendly. two "don't knows", one Green, everyone else on our list Labour. extremely good for the soul if not exactly crucial given how safe the seat is. my son very happy that he finally got to do the spiel on the doorstep a few times all by himself, which tickled quite a few people.

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respect!

Sure sex is good but have you ever convinced a woman in her mid-50s, who’s almost always voted conservative, to vote labour on her own doorstep

— Simon Renshaw (@SiRenshaw) December 7, 2019

Christmas Canvassing. Gotta love it! ⁦@UKLabour⁩ pic.twitter.com/6OE3fHmuJW

— David Rowntree (@DaveRowntree) December 7, 2019

Blur is good again.

Let's not get silly

Dave Rowntree endorsed and voted for Liz Kendall in the 2015 Labour leadership election.

Blur is bad again.

purge 'im!

what makes a person do something like that? what hidden darknesses, what cracks in the moral nature could lead to such a thing?

Endorsements in the 2015 Labour Party leadership election
Liz Kendall

David Aaronovitch, journalist[98]
Nick Cohen, journalist[99]
Philip Collins, journalist
Rod Liddle, journalist[100]
John Mills, businessman and party donor[101]
John Rentoul, journalist[102]
Dave Rowntree, Blur drummer, solicitor, animator, and political activist[103]

posts you had third thoughts abt

just 2nd thoughts bout posting them to the correct thread!

but Rod fucking Liddle?

lol like Aaronovitch or Cohen or Liddle or Rentoul have the interests of the Labour party at heart

― éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 7 December 2019 20:21 (thirty-one seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

Good on @GNev2 for pointing out the link between the apparent rise of racism in society (not just football) and the politics of certain politicians over the past few years. Namecheck for their role model and ringleader, Boris Johnson.

pic.twitter.com/x5fRzitF2e

— Jim Boardman (@JimBoardman) December 7, 2019

well it pains me to say it but good on you, Gary

good greatest hits speech from big john mcd tonight - special guests also included dave ward, manuel cortes, shami chakrabarti (who gave a weirdly rambling speech) and wee dickie leonard

I'm prepping for the #LifeInTheUK test. As a #Polish person, I find the tone of this question jarring, to say the least. The prescribed answer is TRUE. pic.twitter.com/vmCjuDMIci

— Joanna Bagniewska (@JMBagniewska) December 6, 2019

this type of jingoistic ahistorical bullshit being employed to harass EU citizens in the UK is so embarrassingly imbecilic and offensive - I hate this fucking government so much.

angela 'funny tinge' smith's latest video is a joy to a behold pic.twitter.com/JX3zt2sAXN

— jack (@jrc1921) December 6, 2019

xp
although prof D Edgerton notes the acknowledgement that they were a global Empire rather than a small country is baby step forwards for ppl that parrot this shite.

this type of jingoistic ahistorical bullshit being employed to harass EU citizens in the UK is so embarrassingly imbecilic and offensive - I hate this fucking government so much.

I might've mentioned this before at an ILB FAP, but I took this test, and what struck me most was that the WWII section had no reference whatsoever to the holocaust.

There was also the "The UK is a diverse and dynamic nation which welcomes those who want to make a positive contribution to society T/F" question, but frankly I needed the laugh.

That was very good from Gary Neville - presumably in the knowledge it would go viral. Shame about the lack of reaction shots from the rest of the panel.

xp jesus wept, just going short of "are you a terrorist ? y/n" levels of idiocy.

It made me laugh when Phil Nev was in millionaires union mode and saying footballers should withdraw their oh-so valuable contributions to social media every time there is a racist incident at a football match. I don't know if he got Dean Windass to sign up to this proposed "strike"!

Anti cuts. Pro trims. pic.twitter.com/luHJ6bYPSt

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) December 7, 2019

I just nearly threw my radio out of the window when that cunt Nolan replayed his interview with Corbz from '15 - where shock horror - something like 3 times he refused to make a standard mealy mouthed and worthless politician arsehole condemnation of the IRA.

Can't imagine why that's a big deal to Nolan

Fucking hell that citizenship test question made me angry.

My wife took the citizenship test years ago and they didn't have anything like as egregious a question as that, there was some questionable stuff on it (not that I can remember an example) but nothing like that ahistorical nonsense. that was under Tony Blair or Gordon Brown though. she never ended up getting citizenship, we decided we couldn't really afford it and it didn't really change anything anyway apart from voting rights. or at least just being a resident was OK back then.

lol yougov

Who won the last debate?

Britain Elects 33,000 votes

Corbyn 57% Johnson 28%

Paul Brand ITV 30,000 votes

Corbyn 78% Johnson 22%

Martin Lewis 23,000 votes

Corbyn 47% Johnson 25%

The Times 8,000 votes

Corbyn 63% Johnson 37%

YouGov 1,646 polled

Corbyn 48% Johnson 51%

— Philip Lewis #VOTE LABOUR 12 DEC #JC4PM (@philewis) December 6, 2019

lol eugenics

Boris Johnson states the UK public are "Far from equal in raw ability, if not in spiritual worth". He also says "It is surely relevant, to a conversation about equality, that as many of 16% of our species have an IQ below 85" and "Some measurement of inequality is essential". 😲 pic.twitter.com/Lk1E2Z2iYN

— The Labour Leftie 🌹 (@TheLabourLeftie) December 6, 2019

Yesterday: canvassing near Blackheath (Lewisham East), visited by Sir Keir Starmer. The only respondent who sticks in the mind is the young man who said he used to be Con, will vote Lib Dem, it's all about JC and JC 'hasn't done it for him'. Smarmy bad person.

The other thing that bamboozled me - a thing I forget till I go out and talk to such people - is how many people are just not interested, won't vote, or even if they will, haven't thought about it yet, and quite often can't remember how they voted last time. It's unthinkable to me but for many people, politics just doesn't figure in their minds. Understandable in that so much of politics, like the government, is vile, but these people need to vote to change that.

Then travelled with my MP down to Croydon and went on two rounds of canvassing. The Labour majority here is 5,652, bigger than I'd thought, but it's considered an important marginal. Went round an estate where every road is named for a UK athlete: Christie Crescent, Gunnell Close, Akabusi Drive. Again many people not wanting to engage or talk at all. Some enthusiastically and definitely Labour. A big white bloke with a white van and a chaotic dishevelled garden eventually answering the door: 'I won't be voting for you, cos you don't wanna do Brexit'. Another extraordinary black woman going into a long, despairing rant about slavery, saying that black people should never have been brought to this country.

So many activists in Croydon. People at HQ all day sticking envelopes to go out. Teams of canvassers coming and going. Hard to believe an operation like this isn't going to win, even increase the majority, though I heard that boundary changes affected it. David Lammy turned up from Tottenham, gave a speech saying 'It's gonna be close'; I heard him privately talking to local MP / candidate Sarah Jones about potential Con losses like Watford. Overall he didn't sound very pessimistic. I told him the Tottenham Hotspur scoreline and he told me of his doubts about Daniel Levy's influence on the club. He calls Pochettino 'Pooch'.

Into the evening, canvassing in the dark, coming across undecided voters on an affluent middle-class road. Lammy and Jones had rather self-indulgently long conversations with them, especially a bloke I dug out of a family occasion who seemed to enjoy sharing his undecided waffle with us for about 15 minutes. Leaflets through many other doors.

It's healthy to get out into the campaign. A different view from online, let alone MSM. One simple and important thing it reminds me of is the fact that there are people who are very strongly pro and anti Brexit, not just in 'the North', but even these South London constituencies. Both are doubtful about Labour. But Labour's is by far the best Brexit policy, the only way through these extremes, and we shouldn't be ashamed of it at all. Just taking a 'cancel Brexit' line or the like would have turned off even more people than we have already lost.

Unsure where to go next. Might possibly go back to Croydon on polling day.