Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

The whole Andrew Neil thing is weird but I am not sure most people care either way, nor do I think it was massively damaging when Corbyn went on it. If the trend in the polls is correct Lab are up and if not you just couldn't draw some causation relating in regards to the night Corbyn was shouted at by this cunt.

JC has more receipts

what a messy bitch

He’s bottling it - they gave the same “the public aren’t interested” defence Trump used over tax returns.

Think Johnson hasn't entirely hidden away either. Did take part in head-to-head debate and the QT special.

JC going in on “what are they hiding from you?” andrew neil affair not really helping him there

People don't care that much about the interview itself as much as the impact of not doing it - ie the message you send out is 'untrustworthy coward'.

Corbyn and Labour should be hammering the line that if Johnson is running scared of a TV interview, how on earth should anyone expect him to stand up to Trump when the NHS is on the table.

Just like last week and trade documents, they haven’t given us copies of the document to look properly at what they are claiming before we get to ask questions - Corbyn quoting from a document we can’t see yet

— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) December 6, 2019

waaahhhh they won't give us the documents so we can't immediately go and find them on reddit, claim they're of russian origins and then refuse to properly press the government on their contents, we have to wait a couple of hours

1. Gove knifing Boris
2. Gove just going slightly off-piste in a way that definitely doesn't remind anyone of a coke-addled sociopath getting a bit ahead of himself
3. Super Brain Cummings and his Amazing (27.4+5.3i)-Dimensional-Chess Plans
4. just building the hype a little for when Boris relents and Tory Spectator buddy Neil gives him a jokey easy ride with the questions all handed over in advance, after the boomers have all safely sent off their postal votes anyway
5. doesn't even matter, do some work

Having said 4. Andrew Neil's 3-minute spiel went in a bit harder than I expected and I did like the bit about "as PM he'll have to stand up to Trump, Putin and Xi, but he won't even stand up to me", this seems worth repeating - Matt OTM

boris is on tonight:

The Prime Ministerial Debate

Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn face each other in Southampton in the BBC's prime ministerial debate ahead of the general election on Thursday 12th December. Chaired by Nick Robinson.

Release date: 06 December 2019
59 minutes

FUCK HIM UP JEZZA

10/10 use of props by JC this election

Andrew Neil has too large an ego to give Boris an easy ride, and protecting the rep is more important than anything else.

Scottish yougov poll:

"Seat projections from the poll see the SNP up from 35 to 46, Tories down from 13 to 8, the Lib Dems sticking at 4 and Labour losing all but one of their 7 Mps."

4. just building the hype a little for when Boris relents and Tory Spectator buddy Neil gives him a jokey easy ride with the questions all handed over in advance

This was my inkling too but it just seems too ridiculous that it would have any beneficial effect plus Neil is so over-rated and given Johnson is turning up for other hastily arranged interviews and is so easily stumped by anyone...pass

hnnngghhhh xp

It was funny how Corbyn basically tweeted Neil's little speech

utter indictment of our media that the labour party has to call a press conference and wave around some documents before any of them will sit up and notice something we all already knew anyway

Neil is overrated and I thought he looked past it in the last election but, having said that think, he could still annihilate a bag of shite like Johnson.

fucking state of this

From first read, material in the document published by Labour isn’t that surprising or secret + some of it has been admitted under duress by ministers, but Johnson has always tried to deny

— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) December 6, 2019

'well the pm has always denied this to be true and we now have persuasive evidence to the contrary but it's not that surprising really is it hello i am a professional journalist for a globally-respected news outlet'

sorry for laurakposting but

Expect Corbyn will try to use this at the debate tonight to suggest Johnson is misleading people about his deal - worth reading this @JP_Biz from a while ago who debunked Johnson's claims on what the deal does and doesn't do https://t.co/ZvwAFzlljY

— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) December 6, 2019

the fucking passivity of this is incredible - yeah, corbyn will probably use this document to debunk the obvious lies that the prime minister has been allowed to spread by entirely supine reporters like me, what a shocking display of partisan politics from the leader of the opposition

“The public are fed up with interviews that are all about the interviewer and endless interruptions. The format is tired and broken and needs to change if it is to start engaging and informing the public again.”

^^i mean this is kind of correct!!

could Laura K not go one day without being a spineless Tory mouthpiece, I was gonna not renew my TV licence when it ran out at the end of the month but the direct debit went out yesterday so this is a slightly sore point with me today

Neil is only rated because the competition is dimwits like Marr and robotic interrupters no one can remember the name of. This shortform combative confrontational style is aeons out of date and renders all the interviewees equal because the format is the same regardless of if interviewee is skewered or not. You win by body language and tone of voice not by what you say.

The interrupters may be more effective than Neil because you never get to hear the guest

wtaf

“I’m in favour of people of colour coming to this country but I think we should have it democratically controlled”

This is telling: is the “problem” for Johnson immigrants of colour?

Regardless of what politicians claim, the immigration debate has always been about race too. pic.twitter.com/UKcDrxBSxG

— Maya Goodfellow (@MayaGoodfellow) December 6, 2019

What a hateful fucknugget.

We'd learn a lot more about the people from going on something like Joe Rogan than going through circus exercises like Neil that don't really tell us anything at all

I reckon Neil would go a bit easier on a bag of shit than the mauling he gave Peppa Pig.

Considering how compromised Neil is the idea that he could derail a Conservative election campaign by being such a bloody toughie is complete nonsense

Laura K Friday again. How she keeps her job is beyond me ffs.

Also, Pom otm re: hateful fucknugget.

How the fuck do you get away with saying shit like 'I’m in favour of people of colour coming to this country but I think we should have it democratically controlled' without being called out on what you are: a fuming pile of racist manure? What does the attribute 'of colour' have to do with anything other than, you know, dogwhistling?

it's not dogwhistling, it's dogfoghorning

boris' endless repetition of brexit's incredible, transformative effect on vat applied to tampons will never not be hilarious to me - is that really the issue that leave voters have been struggling towards?

No one loves women as much as he does, no one.

“The public are fed up with interviews that are all about the interviewer and endless interruptions. The format is tired and broken and needs to change if it is to start engaging and informing the public again.”

^^i mean this is kind of correct!!

― mark s, Friday, 6 December 2019 bookmarkflaglink

You trust the tale too much!

Neill comprehensively trashed May in 2017 iirc, not like that’s a high bar

channel 4 have deleted the clip of BJ saying he wants to exert democratic control over people of colour emigrating to britain. what is going on

Xp
That's not even a bar it's a length of wet string or something

boris' endless repetition of brexit's incredible, transformative effect on vat applied to tampons will never not be hilarious to me - is that really the issue that leave voters have been struggling towards?

more to the point it's a complete fucking lie

well, yeah

the eu tax regs on that are due for review within the next parliament anyway amirite?

xp could have phrased this better when we’re talking about the tampon tax

Is tampon tax meant to shore up his support with female voters or something? It’s so clumsy. “Er women...use tampons...nobody likes tax...”
Have to admit it wouldn’t be in my top 300 considerations, and suspect many others feel the same.

they’re claiming he said “people of talent” not “people of colour”

who are you going to believe, cchq or your lying ears

It's laurel vs yanny all over again.

"people of talent" totally normal everyday phrase

Is tampon tax meant to shore up his support with female voters or something? It’s so clumsy. “Er women...use tampons...nobody likes tax...”

genuinely i think this is it, just utter dumbfuckery

Gotta keep that plentiful fifth of his party on side

Must admit I rely on subtitles and almost never play the audio on tweeted clips

Maybe expert lipreader Rob Lowe can weigh in

the other infuriating thing about that immigration clip is johnson blithely saying that we'll have control of our immigration system for the first time in decades when we've never not had control, and indeed previous conservative policy aimed at driving immigration down absolutely proves as much

Boris Johnson says “people of talent” not “people of colour.”

Our earlier tweet was a mistake. We misheard and we apologise.

— Channel 4 News (@Channel4News) December 6, 2019

fucking state