Damon Lindelof's Watchmen

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they probably look like Picasso ladies to him

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 20:35 (six years ago)

In the comics he's on this long arc of becoming more and more estranged from humanity, from ditching Janey for Laurie, to spawning duplicates of himself to concentrate on pleasing her while he conducts experiments, to forgetting she needs to breathe. He could easily compartmentalize all of his relations with Angela and be up to whatever he gets up to elsewhere

Thinking about it Trieu can't be thinking of throwing everyone into the aleph, it must be opt-in in some way, like a Nostalgia kiosk or clinic, otherwise why the emphasis on Oklahoma

Brakhage, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 20:54 (six years ago)

I’ve found engaging in plot speculation to be less enjoyable, and sometimes more disappointing, over time

I would, however, find it entertaining if the giant machine makes everyone have the experience of being banged by the Dr. Manhattan dildo simultaneously

mh, Thursday, 5 December 2019 02:10 (six years ago)

why the emphasis on Oklahoma

she figured out Dr. Manhattan was there?

jacquees, full of cobras (voodoo chili), Thursday, 5 December 2019 02:42 (six years ago)

here I sit
brokenhearted
watching Watchmen
and Ozymandias farted

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Thursday, 5 December 2019 04:03 (six years ago)

(in other words, I'm finally caught up)

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Thursday, 5 December 2019 04:03 (six years ago)

After listening to the rather good episode of The Nod podcast about Watchmen, I am going to check this, but is it any good? Will it make me crazy like Mr Robot does?

Maresn3st, Thursday, 5 December 2019 10:36 (six years ago)

We'll have to wait for the finale to be sure, but Esmail and Lindelof are not that similar as showrunners imho

Simon H., Thursday, 5 December 2019 12:50 (six years ago)

would crookshank

mookieproof, Friday, 6 December 2019 03:51 (six years ago)

*fart*

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 December 2019 05:20 (six years ago)

having just caught up on this week's episode, it's increasingly obvious that the weak link in this show is when they try to shoot locations dressed up as elsewhere - the vietnam scenes in this one, and the new york / new jersey scenes from the hooded justice / looking glass origin episodes, look terrible and are extremely unconvincing

"Big Joe Fuck and the Bogalusa Maniac" (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 6 December 2019 13:43 (six years ago)

Idk the look of all that felt appropriately comic book-y. Didn’t seem out of place for this show.

circa1916, Friday, 6 December 2019 17:15 (six years ago)

saigon didn't bother me since we're obviously in a completely alternate reality.

akm, Friday, 6 December 2019 17:17 (six years ago)

my biggest problem (and I still enjoy the series for what it is) is the way it became over-expository as we went further on. I had to keep rewinding to make sure I was following each surprise development in the last one, and it took away from what I loved about the first three eps or so - the character focus, the way it used the Tulsa massacre to tie into modern racism, the Redfordations as a pejorative, how modern hate thrives on plausible deniability, with key members hiding their membership, and having leaders trying to curb the violence so their hate can reach a wider audience.

but I still really enjoyed the reveal in the last one, and making Hooded Justice black in ep 6, with the rest of the New Minutemen being as bigoted as the society he protects.

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 December 2019 17:57 (six years ago)

yeah there's been a pivot to explanatory exposition, to the extent that Laurie even seems to offer weary meta-commentary on it in the last episode; I'm inclined to think it's deliberate but I'm not sure what the purpose would be

Simon H., Friday, 6 December 2019 18:01 (six years ago)

I would assume that 10+ years after the end of the war (and after Vietnam had become a state?) Saigon would have been pretty thoroughly Westernized, even more so than it had been under the French.

I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Friday, 6 December 2019 18:02 (six years ago)

Laurie's meta-commentary was at first a relief, but then kind of eye-rolly to me. "don't tell me your evil plan" has been used to Jedi handwave away excess exposition in too many shows/movies. "hey see even we know we're doing it, so it's ok to do it!".

I'm hoping though, that now that the bombshell is done, that it stabilizes a bit. i still liked the ep but I don't want too many more like it

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 December 2019 18:05 (six years ago)

welp not too many open questions left now!

Simon H., Monday, 9 December 2019 03:33 (six years ago)

I forgot this was on..welp guess im staying up

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Monday, 9 December 2019 04:50 (six years ago)

Stay for post credit but. Have they done that before? I usually don’t keep watching because I don’t want to see the spoilery “next week on” bit so kinda random that I caught it this week.

dan selzer, Monday, 9 December 2019 05:33 (six years ago)

That was a first. My guess is they couldn't figure out a non disruptive way to work that into this episode. (they were right)

Simon H., Monday, 9 December 2019 05:40 (six years ago)

a god walks into abar

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 9 December 2019 05:50 (six years ago)

best episode of the series, I think?

akm, Monday, 9 December 2019 14:34 (six years ago)

still don't know who Lube Man is though

akm, Monday, 9 December 2019 14:35 (six years ago)

he's the one who shot at the outrigger

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 9 December 2019 14:36 (six years ago)

at this point I'm expecting that to get explained but tbh I'd way prefer a few things were left alone. how far we've come from Lost

Simon H., Monday, 9 December 2019 14:37 (six years ago)

prepare to be surprised when we find out that Petey is Lube Man next week

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 9 December 2019 14:37 (six years ago)

So Dr. M must have unwittingly transferred some of his powers to his adopted son, right?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 9 December 2019 14:38 (six years ago)

I assume the swimming pool thing has something to do with that too

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 9 December 2019 14:38 (six years ago)

So Dr. M must have unwittingly transferred some of his powers to his adopted son, right?

He must have transferred them somewhere given all the talk about it; idk about "unwittingly" tho

Simon H., Monday, 9 December 2019 14:41 (six years ago)

I fully expect a scene of Regina King going full Akira next week

Simon H., Monday, 9 December 2019 14:41 (six years ago)

xpost well, if he was Cal at the time of transfer then I don't know why he would know what he was doing

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 9 December 2019 14:48 (six years ago)

we already saw the kid levitating stuff, so it must have happened in the tunnel period

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 9 December 2019 14:49 (six years ago)

one of the better straightforward explanations of the perception of time and causality I've seen on screen

mh, Monday, 9 December 2019 15:49 (six years ago)

turns out doc m transferred all his powers to the eggs that angela smashed on the floor, she's gonna have to lick the raw eggs off the ground if she wants to become dr wo-manhattan

10,000 mani-gecs (voodoo chili), Monday, 9 December 2019 15:59 (six years ago)

lol

Simon H., Monday, 9 December 2019 16:01 (six years ago)

occurred to me just now that the scene of the good doctor obliterating the 7k members was an allusion to that moment in the comic where he vanished the original rorschach

10,000 mani-gecs (voodoo chili), Monday, 9 December 2019 16:01 (six years ago)

so where have the squid been coming from during the last few years?

mookieproof, Monday, 9 December 2019 16:12 (six years ago)

Tevin Campbell's fish tank

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Monday, 9 December 2019 16:15 (six years ago)

veidt had a vivarium in Karnak in the GN, he probably has an aquarium too

10,000 mani-gecs (voodoo chili), Monday, 9 December 2019 16:23 (six years ago)

so judging by the candles the post-credit scene was taking place three years prior to the events in the 'present' of the series. Plenty of time for Ozy to escape and find a way back to Earth (landing on the farm land I imagine)

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 9 December 2019 16:32 (six years ago)

maybe this is a challop but I thought this was a better, less fussy take on time travel paradoxes than "The Constant"

Simon H., Monday, 9 December 2019 16:37 (six years ago)

A lot is riding on the final episode, I fear. Last night's was another great one, but we're still no closer on a lot of the plot threads wrapping up. Not that I expect them all with a neat little bow, but it's going to be a tough landing to execute after such a terrific run this far. I was not expecting them to handle the Dr. Manhattan reveal well, but it worked.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 9 December 2019 16:50 (six years ago)

If only he had been able to finish making those waffles

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 9 December 2019 16:53 (six years ago)

All that really needs tying up is what Trieu's deal is.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 9 December 2019 16:56 (six years ago)

And isn't the Seventh Kavalry's actual plan still kind of not fully known?

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 9 December 2019 16:59 (six years ago)

there's really not that many loose ends left

Simon H., Monday, 9 December 2019 17:00 (six years ago)

xpost to give the Senator Dr. M's powers?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 9 December 2019 17:01 (six years ago)

they wanted to kill dr m and then give his powers to senator keene. but idk if they know about how the doc can transfer his powers. i think the plan was to put keene in an intrinsic field generator and then hope that he reassembles himself like osterman did?

10,000 mani-gecs (voodoo chili), Monday, 9 December 2019 17:26 (six years ago)

The comic explained that Osterman's accident was singular and couldn't ne replicated, and that his unique mind was what helped him put himself back together as Doc Manhattan. Presumably whatever they did to him in this episode was to get him to help Keene put himself back together the same way?

Tuomas, Monday, 9 December 2019 18:12 (six years ago)


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