yeah I think that's one of the reasons CR is so good, tough/"gritty" Bond cuts satisfyingly against the relatively not-that-grim movie around him.
that and the setpieces are just so easy to follow
― Simon H., Wednesday, 4 December 2019 19:29 (four years ago) link
i will go on the same journey i have been on for the past x bond films ie remain IRRATIONALLY, EXCITABLY STOKED for everything until evidence proves otherwise
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 19:33 (four years ago) link
trailer looks great i am excite
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 19:40 (four years ago) link
:)
it’s more that the OTT portentousness of the films themselves is an ill fit for Bond
it's an ill fit for Craig too! the dude from Logan Lucky could bring so much to a late-Connery / Lazenby / early Moore style fun spy adventure
gonna see Knives Out tonight, hoping for notes of goofy Craig in that too
― insecurity bear (sic), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link
imo you will not be disappointed!
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link
Connery's Bond in NSNA may have been older but he didn't look tired like Craig's Bond looks in this trailer.
It's been a while since I've seen NSNA but IIRC the entire plot is "lol, look how old and fat Bond is now, watch him get winded walking up stairs"
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link
love Sean but
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BN2NlZDg5ODgtYjM0My00NzZiLTg5ZmYtYTVjMjk3M2YxOWFhXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNjUwNzk3NDc@._V1_.jpg
― omar little, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 21:54 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqqYoLRTgI8It's revealed immediately afterwards to have been a training exercise, and M chews out Bond for being out of shape, but really?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ecu77iLGLBs
― just another country (snoball), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 21:59 (four years ago) link
After the initial bit at Shrublands, Bond's supposed lack of fitness is never mentioned again, and he spends the rest of the movie kicking ass as good as he did in From Russia With Love.
― just another country (snoball), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link
all the grace and vigor of Ernest Borgnine in The Wild Bunch
― omar little, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:03 (four years ago) link
yeah it's in the upper tiers of bond movies imo. the "lol vegetable shake???" stuff (to which Spectre, bafflingly, paid homage) is the weakest part of it. obv not the best connery bond but not the worst either.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:04 (four years ago) link
NSNA is a solid flick though, when i was a kid i had zero idea about the chronology of where it fell in terms of Bond movies let alone the particulars of the rights issues but it's not like Connery or any of the Bonds were ever *not* a bit worn.
― omar little, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:06 (four years ago) link
connery is more engaged in nsna than he is in diamonds are forever
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:08 (four years ago) link
I'm in danger of drifting off the thread topic, but I like how the villain Largo's motive in NSNA is that he's a bored billionaire who thinks it'll be a big laugh. Almost like Elon Musk.
― just another country (snoball), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:09 (four years ago) link
back on topic: the logo for Bond #25 looks like a 70s action movie, possibly starring Charles Bronson or George Peppard.
― just another country (snoball), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:10 (four years ago) link
i don’t like NSNA? - maybe bc I didnt see it until much later in life idk
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:33 (four years ago) link
xpost yes! i like it too for tbat reason
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:34 (four years ago) link
also excited that we may get GUNFIGHTING IN THE SNOW - my fave
tbf Craig is now the second-oldest Broccoli Bond, and only two years younger than Never Say Never Again Conneryposs could have phrased this less distractingly by saying “ten years older than Connery was when he quit for the second time”
― insecurity bear (sic), Thursday, 5 December 2019 00:47 (four years ago) link
imo you will not be disappointedha ha yeshopefully now that he is free of Bond he can start cracking out a Benoit Blanc mystery every three yearsif Rian Johnson has to quit his trilogy of Star Warses to meet this pace, oh well
― insecurity bear (sic), Thursday, 5 December 2019 18:06 (four years ago) link
Amazing there will have been 3 Star Wars films and 2 spin offs since the last Bond.
― piscesx, Friday, 6 December 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link
that's one word for it, aye
― "Big Joe Fuck and the Bogalusa Maniac" (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 6 December 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link
― omar little, Wednesday, December 4, 2019 5:03 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
This is such a Morbsian comment I had to check it twice!
― I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Friday, 6 December 2019 14:39 (four years ago) link
regarding the trailer: stop ruining movies, andrew lloyd webber
― wasdnuos (abanana), Sunday, 8 December 2019 00:23 (four years ago) link
hoping that craig dies at the end and lashana lynch is the new 007 tbh
^^^ her character is the only reason I might even bother seeing this movie.
― just another country (snoball), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 19:02 (one month ago)
I'm going to go further than this and say that I hope Craig's Bond dies in the gun barrel sequence. Like Bond fumbles getting his gun out and gets shot by person whose POV we've been seeing all these years. Then the pre-titles scene is Ralph Fiennes' M walking into a conference room like Alan Sugar on The Apprentice. He sits down, points at an unseen figure across the table, and says "I want you to be my business partner the next 007!". And then the camera cuts to another angle and it's revealed to be Lashana Lynch's character. BOOM! roll Maurice Binder inspired title sequence.
― just another country (snoball), Saturday, 4 January 2020 18:13 (four years ago) link
Bond #25? No, time to die!
― JoeStork, Saturday, 4 January 2020 18:17 (four years ago) link
This song reminds me of this spiritual i sang in choir called "Ain't Got Time to Die"
― papa stank (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 January 2020 18:55 (four years ago) link
Hm!
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-51112742
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 16:43 (four years ago) link
I'm going to go further than this and say that I hope Craig's Bond dies in the gun barrel sequence.
So... everything we've seen in the trailer would be part of the pre-credit sequence?
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 16:45 (four years ago) link
wait I just read Ned's link, what
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 16:46 (four years ago) link
I'm just going to assume, given that it's Billie Eilish, that entire song is about being too busy to kill yourself
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 16:48 (four years ago) link
I was kinda hoping for Michael Kiwanuka tbh
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:03 (four years ago) link
opening credits is just Rami Malek dancing to Bad Guy in a bunch of locations as Daniel Craig chases after him in the background
― babu frik fan account (mh), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:14 (four years ago) link
Best Bond yet.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:15 (four years ago) link
I don't have time to dieAnd that's okAnd here's why
― papa stank (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:21 (four years ago) link
Should be noted that the actual score itself is by...
pic.twitter.com/6QseVK3iUL— Hans Zimmer (@HansZimmer) January 14, 2020
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:25 (four years ago) link
thrilled that no sam mendes always means no thomas newman
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:34 (four years ago) link
Yeah Thomas Newman was a complete misfit
― abcfsk, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:58 (four years ago) link
I was thinking through the last couple and it's dawned on me that the intense, brooding gravity given to family and legacy that Mendes seemed to revel in suffocated any hint of the playfulness that peeked through. The parodic goofiness of many of the Moore and latter era Connery films has been something the franchise has recoiled from, but it was an over-correction.
There's hardly anyone in Mendes's Bond movies who isn't a spy, master criminal, or family member of the above. Civilians appear fleetingly in crowd shots, if at all.
Fingers crossed that Fukunaga does better
― babu frik fan account (mh), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 18:31 (four years ago) link
Hopefully. Unfortunately Waltz' shitty Blofeld's still in it, as apparent in the trailer.
― abcfsk, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 18:43 (four years ago) link
I thought that character had potential, in that they kept hinting at him being not only ominous but truly weird, but the weird part of his torture chair hijinks ("I'm going to selectively destroy parts of Bond's brain!") fell short and it just seemed like normal villain torture, they gave the cat no real acknowledgment, and the entire "I believe we're meant to be impressed" thing about the museum room with the meteor fragment fell flat. Mendes seemed to get that the villains should be eccentric but was too *serious* to lean into it to the point of being dismissive.
Let Blofeld get mocked for being a weirdo obsessed with his daddy loving Bond more. Is the cat his best friend? Does he sit around admiring his rock in a room? He's out there killing entire classes of people through Spectre -- give him some shit for doing all that only to sit alone with a cat in the middle of the desert!
― babu frik fan account (mh), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 18:49 (four years ago) link
Dunno - I miss Telly Savalas
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 10:41 (four years ago) link
i saw the torture bit of spectre while channel-hopping over the holidays and it's still weird and hilarious to me that blofeld threatens to use a drill to destroy the part of bond's brain that recognises faces, then fuckin' does it, and it's never entirely clear whether bond spends the rest of the movie suffering complete face blindness or not
― que pasa picasso (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 10:44 (four years ago) link
at a minimum the rest of spectre takes place in bond's dreams during his post-op coma -- ideally he has not yet woken up for the entirety of the upcoming film and it ends with his death without ever waking up and everyone else too
― mark s, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 11:55 (four years ago) link
There should have been a post-credits scene where Bond wakes up and he's actually Archer reviving from his coma
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 14:05 (four years ago) link
xp James' Ladder
― may the force leave us alone (zchyrs), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 16:09 (four years ago) link
Actually, now that I think about it, that would be a cool concept for a film, the dying dream of a super-spy
― may the force leave us alone (zchyrs), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 16:10 (four years ago) link
at long last the bond franchise is good thanks to me its arch-h8ter
― mark s, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 16:13 (four years ago) link
― may the force leave us alone (zchyrs),
An adaptation of Joe Haldeman's All My Sins Remembered would fit that bill iirc. (It's a shame that Haldeman's work hasn't been adapted widely.)
― Miami weisse (WmC), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 16:55 (four years ago) link
There were a couple of excellent episodes of The Leftovers which had that kind of vibe.
Saw the new trailer at IMAX ahead of 1917 last night and it got me more stoked than I would have anticipated for this film. It came straight after one for the woeful looking Birds of Prey, mind you.
― chap, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 17:09 (four years ago) link