2020 Democratic presidential primary

like, if you're running for something and you vocally came out against that, I can't see it helping you with votes at all, anywhere.

that video of biden talking about his hairy legs is

The self-clowning continues

Honestly I think it's weird that people think it's either dumb or bad to pander to old people. Lots of people are old! And they've earned their pandering fair and square by voting a lot!

And old people are gonna get badly screwed in the short term by Republican policy, which is, in point of fact, malarkey!

that’s an argument that Joe Biden is sure to communicate clearly & concisely

This is how you go on Fox News. pic.twitter.com/WKhK1rf0qd

— Public Citizen (@Public_Citizen) November 26, 2019

malarky is a bit cheesy but it doesn't warrant the level of freak out those twitter idiots are expressing. again I maintain twitter is made of what's probably not a significant percentage of likely voters and a lot of people who love to hear themselves speak and I said elsewhere (or maybe here) it's getting to the point where 98% of the political social media posts I see read like they were generated by an AI Woke Rage Bot.

otm

I'm in an FB group a friend set up to discuss the candidates and it started well but now has completely dissolved into a group of smug asshole Bernie bros all of whom have profile pictures of themselves holding their bearded chins and staring smugly into the camera, a few completely unreasonable Buttigieg supporters who can't bear any criticism of their chosen candidate, and then one guy who posted a paragraphs long 'woke' screed about how no one is supporting POC (he was white) and started every section with "Bye Karen! Bye Becky!" and ended up going on about how Gabbard is the best candidate for minorities.

xps - herd mentality is a real thing. twitter is 'social media' so it is subject to normal social dynamics. social groups that begin as loose amalgamations, for example high school students or office employees, eventually tend to converge around one or more agreed sets of folkways and mores. divergence from one herd normally comes in the form of merging into another.

bots can have a highly disruptive effect on those social dynamics, by artificially amplifying one position far out of proportion to its initial weighting within the group, thus amplifying its innate attraction among all the people within that group, until they migrate to it en masse.

a group of smug asshole Bernie bros all of whom have profile pictures of themselves holding their bearded chins and staring smugly into the camera, a few completely unreasonable Buttigieg supporters who can't bear any criticism of their chosen candidate, and then one guy who posted a paragraphs long 'woke' screed about how no one is supporting POC

i am so sorry -- i mean, I don't know these people, but I know these people ... who knows, maybe some of these are people I know ... the anti-Warren stuff from Bernie bros kinda pisses me off, but then, when they aren't talking about politics they are posting like krautrock and prog youtubes so like idk nerdy white dudes being on brand?

^^

the perception among these types that warren is a "neoliberal shill" is moronic. she made her reputation opposing obama's reaction to the financial crisis.

hey now I’ve never posted anything anti warren!

i definitely wasn't talking about you. i also support bernie!

and also i'm a bro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTnBc_-QCXk

but there is way too much hostility from some corners of bernieworld toward warren. and a mischaracterization of who she is and what she stands for.

sorry that was an xpost to sarahell / joke from a dude who posts nothing but kraut youtubes

lol sorry

hey now I’ve never posted anything anti warren!

― 💠 (crüt), Sunday, December 1, 2019 1:32 PM (thirty-three minutes ago

hahah awwwww most of these bros are in their 40s and 50s and live in the SF Bay Area.

these particular people aren't from here (here meaning SF bay area and also ILX) and are all in their 20's. At least one of them isn't even from the US.

I know that dude!

'I know Joe's heart': Why black voters are backing Joe Biden

Worth a read.

Biden has credited his early years in Delaware politics as formative, particularly the community known as “The Bucket,” the largely African American, downtrodden northeast Wilmington neighborhood that was home to housing projects, crime, drugs and violence. He returned to the area as a young lawyer during the 1968 Wilmington riots after the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. He represented the community of New Castle as a county councilman, supporting public housing and opposing highway projects he saw as potentially harmful to black neighborhoods.

After his election to the U.S. Senate in 1972, Biden remained a fixture in the black community, a regular at the annual NAACP dinner and a commencement speaker at historically black Delaware State University. He talked to everyone, including the wait staff, according to people who knew him at the time. Most important, he listened, recalled Delaware State’s provost and incoming president, Tony Allen, who served as Biden’s speechwriter and special assistant when Biden was in the Senate.

...

Cedric Richmond, a Democratic congressman from Louisiana and the former head of the Congressional Black Caucus...first worked with Biden during the Obama administration and got to know him more as they campaigned for Hillary Clinton in 2016. He approached Biden about running in 2020 within months of Trump’s victory.

But Biden was unwilling to commit at the time, and Richmond refocused his efforts on the 2018 midterm elections. Looking at the electoral map, Richmond targeted nearly three dozen African American districts where he thought Biden could be the margin of difference, and he reached out to enlist his help.

“He said, ‘Look, I’m all in,’” Richmond recalled. “In most of the places he went, we won.”

NEWS - Kamala Harris is dropping out of the presidential election today, I'm told reliably. She's informing staff now.

— Edward-Isaac Dovere (@IsaacDovere) December 3, 2019

yeah I figured that was gonna have to be awfully imminent after that NYT story

rip, big girl

it's sad she was a cop

Wow, big news. It's a shame she didn't do better. Now if only some of these other jokers would drop out too...

Genuinely surprised. Thought she'd grind along till the first primaries at least. Hope whoever wins picks her as their AG, if not VP.

I could live without her as AG

i'm glad she won't be the nominee but this is not good

With Harris dropping out, all 6 of the remaining candidates who have qualified for this month's debate are white. (Biden, Bernie, Warren, Steyer, Buttigieg, Klobuchar).

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) December 3, 2019

A couple of months ago it would have been surprising but her polling's been abysmal for quite some time, and dozens of staffers wouldn't talk for a story about what a shitshow your campaign is behind the scenes unless it's....really a shitshow

what is Steyer's demo, anyway?

I don't get why Klobuchar is still in this

I would think Yang will qualify for the debate by the deadline?

Tammy Duckworth shoulda run

I don't get why Klobuchar is still in this

xp: Duckworth's public speaking has improved, but she didn't win a Senate seat due to her stage presence.

I’m afraid the Morning Joe Mindset may be terminal

Will be interesting to see where Harris supporters go, Biden or maybe Pete would seem like the ideological bet but a lot of these second choice polls I’m seeing are resistant to ideology, could actually see Warren picking up Adair amount of her support

A fair not Adair haha

Biden or maybe Pete would seem like the ideological bet

lol no

deray mckesson seems to think she might get the VP nod from somebody - but she can't carry a state, so I don't see that happening.

Why lol no? Harris never won over lefties.

Because the people supporting Harris were largely centrists who were actively repulsed by Biden and Buttigieg

KHive folks will tend to lose interest altogether or go to Warren is my guess

I think it's way more likely they will end-around those two entirely and land on Warren/Sanders

Harris never won over lefties.

yeah I'm p bitter about how effectively the "left" crushed her right out of the gate