Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

the independent is online only, the i is print and now independent of the independent i think

I don’t think it was posted, but this longread from a couple of weeks ago by Rachel Shabi, about immigration in British politics, is very good: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/15/how-immigration-became-britains-most-toxic-political-issue

thanks for the link

When New Labour came to power in 1997, just 3% of the public cited immigration as a key issue. By the time of the EU referendum in 2016, that figure was 48%

that is an astounding statistic isn't it? astounding and hugely depressing

first thing Blair did (with his landslide victory mandate) was demonise single parent benefit scroungers. Then he spent a decade working on foreigners and the whole concept of a welfare state. I'd love to see him die in front of my eyes!

there wasn't hostile environment but lots of hostile propaganda

I didn’t know about a lot of this stuff. The statistics about Tamil asylum seekers and the stuff about children being taught in separate classrooms was new to me, and it was really depressing.

xp I think the article does a good job of showing how the increasing ratcheting up of rhetoric translated into violence and discrimination against first asylum seekers, and then immigrants in general (as well as non-white Britons).

if the tories get in i do wonder what our krystallnacht will be, and what the response to it will be

just saw this on the guardian website, massive fuck up if true:

The attacker is understood to have been wearing an electronic tag when he staged the attack after being released from prison for terrorism related offences.

He was known to the authorities at MI5 and police because of his previous conviction, sources confirm.

what impact does something like that have? think things are about to get way uglier

all of that follows on from my previous post all too snugly

He was tackled by a murderer on day release!

lol what

give him an MBE

What a cracking point by @RLong_Bailey.@sajidjavid and his mates were front and centre in causing the Global Financial Crisis.

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

pic.twitter.com/VZwvBz6cmC

— Labour's Black PLP (@LaboursBlackPLP) November 29, 2019

it's always nice to have a light night Bailey(s) (putting a braindead tory twerp on ice). The way pusillanimous Miliband Labour didn't have the right people/the political will to give this simple answer to the dumbest attack line in UK political history in 2015 is something that still angers me tbh. Probably because it was the first time I voted and Labour 2015 didn't do fuck all to earn my vote.

justice system breaking just about even there

give him an MBE

then hang him. then pardon him.

xp Big John going YEEEEEES GO FOR THE FACE backstage

NickB with the Vardy Party election pledge there

Just want to point out RL-B mentions The Fall (!) in this video on her twitter

Let's build the future of our communities by the many, for the many pic.twitter.com/jRQSNTLpZL

— Rebecca Long-Bailey (@RLong_Bailey) November 5, 2019

"local band The Fall, were setting the scene for what would later became Madchester"

I bet even baggymp is rolling his eyes at that clunker!

LOLz, always impressed by RLB whenever I see her nonetheless, I wish Corbyn had some of her sangfroid.

I think she's great, probably is the next leader.

maybe she's getting in her MES zings now he's dead

iirc southern england labour is rooting for angela rayner, we'll fight ya lol

Isn’t that The Fall as her background music? A track Elastica ripped off?

Not one I recognise, yes its a bit like "Line Up" Elastica

People died. Innocent men & women going to work were stabbed by a terrorist. Jeremy Corbyn is on their side. I fucking hate him.

— frances Barber#FBPE (@francesbarber13) November 29, 2019

If you thought fake Cromblyn was bad wait till you interview me

This woman is mentally ill... surely?

corbyn’s most underrated superpower is the way he can turn the cortexes of select middle-tier british celebs into thick, velvety minestrone

She’s been like this for years. Combination of declining irl relevance plus the worst crowd on twitter egging her on into getting worse and worse. I’d say it’s sad, but she’s a colossal racist.

And a colossal irrelevance, because who is she? I mean, at least a few thousand 50 year old virgins and nerds know who Rachel Riley is.

Matt Hancock loses his cool at local hustings as crowd refuse to buy his Tory spinpic.twitter.com/4egXjIj8hA

— The Pileus (@thepileus) November 30, 2019

enjoyed watching toady Hancock lose his shit and letting his mask slip with an audience at a hustings who were basically laughing him out of the room.

xp for a few sweet months FB was in my friend’s musical (he got so much stick for hiring her because she is also a massive terf on top of everything else) and her Twitter was relatively and blissfully quiet. He may have insisted upon it.

I'm hesitant to use the word 'radical centrist' but can't think what to call Riley/Linehan/FB and others. They seem different to the Alyssa Milano / Gary Lineker crowd that I guess is just standard Bluetick Politically Homeless Centrist/Liberal? Or are those guys just more polished and keep their shit together ("Bernie would be ok if it wasn't for his horrible supporters"), less prone to single issue. The Milano/Lineker crew seem somewhat more representative of a certain milieu (that piece on Remainiacs earlier this year covered it well enough)

Makes me cycle back to this idea of people on the left/right being more prone to believing in conspiracy theories (both true and false) and centrists more focused on the actions and 'foibles' of individuals, historically at least. Everything will be ok we just need to remove this or that particular individual. Trump Derangement Syndrome seems more pronounced in centre than left, same with obsession over Putin (the one conspiracy theory that liberals were really always onboard with. *insert random person* is a Putin plant/asset/operative).

I can see from their perspective why they believe in horseshoe theory. I dgaf about how many children Boris has, or what he does in his personal life, or any other pearl-clutching distractions

lol busted

leftists admiring Trump’s style pic.twitter.com/ruUCbDjIPT

— zachary (@zatchry) November 28, 2019

trump’s tweet is a lot more entertaining than obama’s ‘no u should definitely hear your nazi uncle our’ tbf, and *furrows brow, steeples fingers* isn’t that what twitter is all about

I do GAF about what Boris Johnson has done in his personal life because I can’t unlearn one particular thing he’s done in a habitual way and no, it’s nothing to do with condoms. Every single journalist at a certain level knows about this aspect of his behaviour and there’s a huge story going unreported because the person required to speak out to stand it up doesn’t want to upset four third parties. This is why so many writers on the left are beyond incensed by certain women BBC journalists dealing with BJ uncritically, because if *we* know about it, so must they.

lol busted

leftists admiring Trump’s style pic.twitter.com/ruUCbDjIPT

— zachary (@zatchry) November 28, 2019

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Keep this to the US lib threads please

Friend of mine registered for a postal ballot. Was told it'd arrive the week of the 24th. So yesterday he went to his electoral registration office and they were like "oh yeah sorry, complications on our end, it'll be with you Monday". He'll be out of the country by Monday. Asked if he could switch to having someone vote for him, they said no because the ballot's already in the mail. Anyone have any idea whom he should complain to? Pretty fucking scandalous to lose your vote over something that the registration office have admitted is their fault, not his.

Electoral Commission, I think.

That sucks. Incidentally, we haven't received our postal ballot either.

*ballots, bah.

my partner's arrived last Tuesday. Felt quite a sense of urgency to get it posted off immediately before the dog ate it or it got spoiled by chilli sauce or something.

I got my postal ballot the other day in Canada

Postal votes are dealt with on a local basis tho so prob depends on where you are. My overseas postal vote is dealt with by Glasgow City Council

Keep this to the US lib threads please

― #FBPIRA (jim in vancouver),

np will do! (if a mod wants to delete go ahead, these embedded tweets are kind of distracting anyway!)

Postal votes are dealt with on a local basis tho so prob depends on where you are. My overseas postal vote is dealt with by Glasgow City Council

Yeah, he's in Tower Hamlets which has quite the reputation for corruption and bureaucracy.

I just want to fight for the rights of EU people in the UK who pegged it at the first sign of trouble yesterday, although apparently bravery is a uniquely Polish characteristic so if he had run he wouldn't have been a genuine Pole. It isn't just Hartley-Brewer (who called narwhal man "most British response) who is completely full of shit today imo.