Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

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Not a conspiracy but the outcome of a long established culture, and failure to respond to the challenges of social media, and a refusal to address the failings of individual employees.

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 November 2019 23:20 (six years ago)

The bbc won't get any thanks either, when people end up losing jobs to make up the pensioner license fee losses. Well maybe some of them will end up on the honours list.

calzino, Thursday, 28 November 2019 23:29 (six years ago)

Holy shit @ lionel shrivel on qt O_O

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Thursday, 28 November 2019 23:36 (six years ago)

lol autocorrect

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Thursday, 28 November 2019 23:36 (six years ago)

“what’s so bad about comparing Muslim women to letterboxes?” wtf

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Thursday, 28 November 2019 23:37 (six years ago)

Holy shit @ lionel shrivel on qt O_O

― Wee Bloabby (NickB), Thursday, November 28, 2019 11:36 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

People You Suspect Are Frighteningly Overrated But Don't Actually Know Enough About To Say So

imago, Thursday, 28 November 2019 23:41 (six years ago)

I don't believe anyone rates Lionel Shriver at anything.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 November 2019 23:46 (six years ago)

OT but:

you have to attend a FAP before then obv

― imago, Thursday, November 28, 2019 4:43 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

I'd love to! I'm almost never in London is the rub.

― pomenitul, Thursday, November 28, 2019 4:44 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

I'll Eurostar my way 'cross the water obv

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 28 November 2019 23:54 (six years ago)

increasingly unsuccessful author, increasingly hard right politics, increasing number of media gigs as a result. this picture - when you spot it - tells you all you need to know about her pic.twitter.com/V7AtWcHoB3

— Waluigitifo (@waluigitifo) November 28, 2019

xp

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 November 2019 23:55 (six years ago)

wow what!?

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Thursday, 28 November 2019 23:58 (six years ago)

this is the qt clip btw

“From that rhetoric, I get told to go back to my own country”

“I can’t see how you can blame Boris Johnson for that”

This #bbcqt audience member clashes with Lionel Shriver over the Prime Minister’s past comments about women in burkas. pic.twitter.com/KhqxaC25md

— BBC Question Time (@bbcquestiontime) November 28, 2019

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Thursday, 28 November 2019 23:59 (six years ago)

Lionel Shriver is a piece of work. She is racist and madly into loyalism as well, to the point of openly posing with her Ulster Freedom Fighters mug.

Looks like it's time to post the photo of Lionel Shriver with a UFF mug again #bbcqt pic.twitter.com/lY8Urnd3JJ

— Ally Fogg (@AllyFogg) November 28, 2019



Relatedly, @sisyphusa reshared an interesting thread about how the BBC has always been criticised for platforming fascists:

working class antifascists in the 1930s banner-dropped BBC headquarters and gatecrashed their broadcasts in protest at how the BBC helped to facilitate the rise of Mosley, while ignoring or obstructing working class struggles. https://t.co/gwt4Kn3bex

— michael (@Sisyphusa) May 10, 2019

gyac, Friday, 29 November 2019 00:08 (six years ago)

A stupid fucking talentless right wing American arsehole who valorizes Loyalist terrorism - the perfect guest for the BBC and Question Time, hoorah!

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Friday, 29 November 2019 00:09 (six years ago)

She’ll have fucked her sales here with these comments, which I gather were dwindling anyway.

gyac, Friday, 29 November 2019 00:14 (six years ago)

She also said that WASPI women were losers, would guess that a high proportion of her readers would be in that demographic so good job Lionel

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Friday, 29 November 2019 00:19 (six years ago)

That’s what I mean. Faiiiiirly sure that women buy maybe ~75% of fiction? There’s a strong gender disparity anyway.

gyac, Friday, 29 November 2019 00:27 (six years ago)

Shriver is a fucking grotesque nightmare. She makes Kate Andrews seem quite jovial and moderate by comparison amongst unwanted Yanks repping for fascism and neolib economics over here.

calzino, Friday, 29 November 2019 01:57 (six years ago)

Subscribe to my new magazine:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKgGuzNU0AAz85c?format=jpg&name=large

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 29 November 2019 05:28 (six years ago)

theresa may unveils statue to nancy astor. cool cool

philip collins writes about “the muslim question” and ranks racisms in the paper of record. also cool cool

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Friday, 29 November 2019 07:41 (six years ago)

lionel shriver used to be a newsnight review regular back in the early 00s and her rightwing schtick earned her contrarian plaudits in that decade of challops wars. have not really heard from her since but I guess she turned out to be a gavin mcinnes type who got snared by their own bullshit and can't stop now.

plax (ico), Friday, 29 November 2019 07:44 (six years ago)

Astor believed that Nazism would solve the problems associated with Communism and the Jews.

she sounds fun.

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Friday, 29 November 2019 07:45 (six years ago)

State broadcaster brings on shithead author to make the case for islamophobia, cool cool COOL

For how much longer do we tolerate trashed purdah? (wins), Friday, 29 November 2019 07:49 (six years ago)

Astor wouldn't employ Catholics or Jews and was even considered too much of a liability by the Conservative party after the war. But a lot has changed for the Tories since that progressive era they went through in the late 40's.

calzino, Friday, 29 November 2019 08:07 (six years ago)

Shriver is known principally as the author of We Need To Talk About Kevin.

First published in 2004, it's sold 822,000 copies in the UK and dwarfs the rest of her work.

Nothing Shriver published since has made much more than a tenth of Kevin in book sales. pic.twitter.com/Nq4IWCm4KN

— Chris McCrudden (@cmccrudden) March 1, 2019

good thread here that illustrates how post Kevin.. what a giant she is in publishing... well next to Alan Partridge's autobiography that is.

calzino, Friday, 29 November 2019 08:38 (six years ago)

winner of the orange prize, oh the irony

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Friday, 29 November 2019 08:50 (six years ago)

This BBC Facebook ad thing is insane, to the extent I immediately assumed it was a joke.

I don't really believe the BBC is secretly conspiring in the Tories' favour. But what's becoming obvious is the extent to which the BBC has allowed itself to be blatantly, humiliatingly played by them.


i don’t think it needs to be conspiring in its favour, but also i think “getting played” allows too much off the hook. what they do seem to be doing more of is fulfilling the below jamie k definition of “state tv” wrt politics (rather than just royal cap doffing for instance):

“i think you have to distinguish here between state news and propaganda. Propaganda promotes a line, state news provides the government with headroom and context; it holds the opposition to account.”

Fizzles, Friday, 29 November 2019 08:51 (six years ago)

just trying to school myself re: lionel shriver:

She was interviewed on Newsnight on BBC Two the night of December 17, 2012, questioned about the issue of whether the United States should change gun control laws after the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting but whoever wrote this Wikipedia entry forgot to mention what her views on gun control are.[20]

The Pingularity (ledge), Friday, 29 November 2019 08:51 (six years ago)

She argued on Question Time that the Prime Minister’s comments were not racist because “letterbox” is not a common slur.

What kind of a cretinous argument is that? She should check out /r/rareinsults.

pomenitul, Friday, 29 November 2019 09:00 (six years ago)

johnson starting to get some push back from journalists. think they’ve rattled by the opprobrium in their twitter mentions. good thread of questions I’d like neil to ask BJ

Because the govt want us to talk about their threatening of Channel 4, I’m going to point out they still haven’t explained why the PM told Northern Irish businesses there would be no checks or processes of any kinds on their GB bound goods with the PM’s deal when there will.

— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) November 29, 2019

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Friday, 29 November 2019 10:06 (six years ago)

cool. maybe start with the daughter you abandoned. her name is Stephanie. she is 10 years old. https://t.co/rFxmm9RdWW

— Hannah Jane Parkinson (@ladyhaja) November 28, 2019

xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 November 2019 10:09 (six years ago)

lol

Oops! I forgot I was being filmed when I gave my old mate Nick Ferrari the secret signal to change the subject. pic.twitter.com/a7Zhs4uPEg

— Parody Boris Johnson (@BorisJohnson_MP) November 29, 2019

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Friday, 29 November 2019 10:09 (six years ago)

Lewis Goodall has been very good during this campaign, I don't really know his political views and that's probably a good thing because his feed is refreshingly free of bullshit.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 November 2019 10:10 (six years ago)

yeah him and adam bienkov are head and shoulders above most of the other lobby journalists

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Friday, 29 November 2019 10:17 (six years ago)

Goddall was some sort of Lab activist(?) Might have been just some Tory shitposting tho'

xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 November 2019 10:21 (six years ago)

Boris Johnson says all the reports about the many offensive comments he has made in the past are "absolute distortions” of what he wrote.

Here’s his comments in full context, with links to the original sources.https://t.co/6RSBcNd25e

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) November 29, 2019

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 29 November 2019 10:21 (six years ago)

^^ for prosperity

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 29 November 2019 10:22 (six years ago)

it's the "tank-topped" bit that really hurts

fetter, Friday, 29 November 2019 10:28 (six years ago)

I agree that the comments are offensive, but can we have some actual focus on the tangible outcomes of holding racist views and implementing structural racism please? No good talking about his antique racial slurs if you’re not going to talk about the state deporting black citizens to their deaths, and ruining the lives of so many others! Why will no one address that racism in this country isn’t about horrible words, it’s about policy outcomes and the real effect on people’s lives?

gyac, Friday, 29 November 2019 10:29 (six years ago)

Like I’ve seen more insight and analysis on this from black twitter users than every fucking highly paid journalist in the country - a reflection of the lobby’s position ofc but no less irresponsible.

gyac, Friday, 29 November 2019 10:31 (six years ago)

Lol this is a long, long road.

The fact that a Devon Labour MP, @LukePollard , spearheaded the campaign for a statue to this Hitler sympathising, anti worker, anti left MP is an embarrassment to the Party https://t.co/mgSiZEKL41

— Momentum North Devon (@MomentumNDevon) November 29, 2019

xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 November 2019 10:34 (six years ago)

how glaringly racist did you have to be to be considered a liability to the Tories in 1945?

calzino, Friday, 29 November 2019 10:43 (six years ago)

Holy crap, I’ve just read that Nancy Astor, the Nazi apologist & Holocaust supporter, has also had a train named after her, the Nancy Astor Express. A fucking TRAIN. Did no one think about the echoes of that?

— Ally Fogg (@AllyFogg) November 29, 2019

calzino, Friday, 29 November 2019 10:49 (six years ago)

Did... did he forget he's on camera? pic.twitter.com/GNA2eZu3AD

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) November 29, 2019

groovypanda, Friday, 29 November 2019 11:00 (six years ago)

What was he trying to say? Fuck Beveridge, or Fuck This Caller?

stet, Friday, 29 November 2019 11:02 (six years ago)

I agree that the comments are offensive, but can we have some actual focus on the tangible outcomes of holding racist views and implementing structural racism please? No good talking about his antique racial slurs if you’re not going to talk about the state deporting black citizens to their deaths, and ruining the lives of so many others! Why will no one address that racism in this country isn’t about horrible words, it’s about policy outcomes and the real effect on people’s lives?

OTM

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 29 November 2019 11:03 (six years ago)

Seems legit

At around 0950 in the interview they return to why he drew his hand across his throat. PM says the reason is because he was imitating Nick Ferrari (off-screen). Nick F says he was doing it because a producer was talking to him down his headphones too loudly. https://t.co/13gN7P003H

— Rob Powell (@robpowellnews) November 29, 2019

groovypanda, Friday, 29 November 2019 11:13 (six years ago)

urgent execution required

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Friday, 29 November 2019 11:16 (six years ago)

his expression though - makes me think of that scene with all those posh lads doing bayonet training in 'if....'

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Friday, 29 November 2019 11:19 (six years ago)

See Johnson's dad make more appearances in the last couple of days...it's just odd.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 November 2019 11:27 (six years ago)

how do they have the gall to say this shit?

Gove claims vote against Tories is vote against change

Gove says a vote for any party other than the Conservative party is a vote against change.

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Friday, 29 November 2019 11:29 (six years ago)


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