Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

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NHS only good thing about this dumb country

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 23:40 (six years ago)

What I mean is, I don't go all Pavlovian Ken Loach at the mention of the NHS and never have, but it's a vote winner so lay it on with a trowel, by all means.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 23:42 (six years ago)

Well that isn't true. Until recently there was free education...and despite DWP being evil and criminal you can still get forms of support and welfare...again, if it doesn't kill you first xp

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 23:43 (six years ago)

Anyway off to listen to some outtakes from Trout Mask Replica to cheer myself up.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 23:47 (six years ago)

NHS stuff cuts through like nothing else. That Rob Delaney video got millions of views and the Facebook numbers were from people who didn’t like or follow Corbyn or Labour posts or pages. Same on twitter. Esp in winter when the NHS comes under a lot of strain. The video with doctors and nurses speaking out also cut through with people.

Still much to be done, but newest polls show Lab continuing to gain. Am I right in thinking that the Cons gain in Scotland on the MRP?

Imagine this news will focus wavering voters’ minds and be used to motivate people. Let’s see.

gyac, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 23:47 (six years ago)

jesus christ

It gets worse pic.twitter.com/MPeKNi2WOW

— Ieuan Skinner (@TehMrSkinner) November 28, 2019

Simon H., Thursday, 28 November 2019 00:32 (six years ago)

that is legitimately worse than anything I've seen in US media election coverage

Simon H., Thursday, 28 November 2019 00:33 (six years ago)

What was it? Is deleted now

stet, Thursday, 28 November 2019 01:16 (six years ago)

Still there further down the replies, dunno if this will work

https://mobile.twitter.com/SaltyMcFace/status/1199839397904027649/photo/1

FBPRieu (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 November 2019 01:22 (six years ago)

and this pearl... pic.twitter.com/WUkRN5dJSx

— Salty McFace (@SaltyMcFace) November 27, 2019

FBPRieu (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 November 2019 01:23 (six years ago)

yup that was it

Simon H., Thursday, 28 November 2019 01:32 (six years ago)

Got my postal ballot in. Under the lib dem candidate: "Scottish Liberal Democrats - To Stop Brexit" lol

#FBPIRA (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 28 November 2019 02:11 (six years ago)

she couldn't stop a bus.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 28 November 2019 02:53 (six years ago)

Contra to the idea that the youth don't vote. It's clear from this that they do but they'll have to deliver maybe a dozen Canterbury type results.

Interestingly, buried away in the academic literature accompanying the #YouGov MRP poll is a turnout assumption of *no youthquake* - based on a 2018 study suggesting that the 2017 youth turnout rise was a myth.https://t.co/6zn9WN9liK pic.twitter.com/i2km5YvWdM

— Alex Deam (@someotheralex) November 27, 2019

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 November 2019 08:20 (six years ago)

burlsonaro seems to have genuinely fkd it w this johnson neil thing. hope he gets his jotters

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Thursday, 28 November 2019 08:32 (six years ago)

Went to bed just before the MRP got called. Am going back to bed now.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 28 November 2019 08:36 (six years ago)

ignore it

burlsonaro normally out serenely QTing low follow-count randos. none of that now. lovely stuff

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Thursday, 28 November 2019 08:44 (six years ago)

One of the reasons that Johnson's swerving of the Neil interview matters is because no one has really put his Brexit policy under any sustained scrutiny so far this campaign. Labour has its own reasons to want to focus on other things but it does enable Boris to continue flogging the Get Brexit Done line and it's preventing Labour from dividing the Leave vote as effectively as it might.

The Midlands were always going to be a major faultline in this election and it's one of the areas where fear/distrust/hatred of Corbyn is higher but there has to be a sustained campaigning focus on marginals there and in other Labour Leave areas over the next two weeks. If the Tories do win dozens of seats in those areas then they are likely to become tight marginals, so those seats can still be retained for Labour if there are no more unforced errors and fuck-ups.

On of the big questions is whether Brexit and Corbynfear really are overriding priorities for enough voters or whether that's mainly just media noise. Labour does need to campaign on more than just the NHS though, they need to campaign on how they will create jobs.

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 November 2019 09:05 (six years ago)

BBC reporting that labour are changing their strategy to appeal more to leave voters in order to close the gap

YouGov to see it (wins), Thursday, 28 November 2019 09:10 (six years ago)

Hmmm wonder how that will manifest itself

FBPRieu (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 November 2019 09:14 (six years ago)

Gardiner denied any such change fwiw, not clear what the bbc sources are for this

YouGov to see it (wins), Thursday, 28 November 2019 09:15 (six years ago)

More Grace Blakeley and less Owen Jones wouldn't hurt

anvil, Thursday, 28 November 2019 09:16 (six years ago)

Forget that. The likes of Starmer are done.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 November 2019 09:19 (six years ago)

Don't really see that Labour's position could shift much now anyway, the policy is intended to bring both sides together and is never gonna reach the extremist positions

FBPRieu (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 November 2019 09:23 (six years ago)

lots of vaguely sensible stuff in the BBC analysis but I do question it’s veracity. agree w MDC that they should be going big on the economic offer also

feel a lot more sanguine about the MRP than I did the opinium 19ptr.

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Thursday, 28 November 2019 09:25 (six years ago)

Yeah tbh I just looked at how the guardian are reporting it & it’s quite different from what the beeb seemed to be suggesting

YouGov to see it (wins), Thursday, 28 November 2019 09:26 (six years ago)

Exactly. But the very pro-remainer ppl will be heard from a lot less xps

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 November 2019 09:29 (six years ago)

this changing the strategy line for brexiters does sound like nonsense, can't see any gains from Milne feeding lines like this to the media either. Suddenly Farage appreciation society from Dudley aren't going to coo "aw isn't that nice they want our votes".

calzino, Thursday, 28 November 2019 09:30 (six years ago)

Christ, you need both and properly localised messaging.

Not convinced a London media economics think tank type like Grace Blakely is much of an answer to this issue really.

Farage has been very quiet this campaign...

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 November 2019 09:31 (six years ago)

Don't think the Andrew Neil thing matters because Get Brexit Done is more like a feeling than a policy. In one there is no scrutiny that can be applied to it.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 November 2019 09:33 (six years ago)

Farage has been very quiet this campaign...

― Matt DC, Thursday, 28 November 2019 bookmarkflaglink

🤔🤔🤔

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 November 2019 09:33 (six years ago)

burlsonaro

Who is this?

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 November 2019 09:34 (six years ago)

rob burley, head of BBC politics

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Thursday, 28 November 2019 09:34 (six years ago)

Farage is sulking or embarrassed. No matter how much he might wanna get back at Johnson I can't see him trying to interfere with a Tory victory

FBPRieu (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 November 2019 09:35 (six years ago)

He knows when he's beaten.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 November 2019 09:35 (six years ago)

You only need to peel off a relatively small number of would-be Tory voters to make a difference though. There are lots of constituencies on a knife-edge.

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 November 2019 09:36 (six years ago)

pic.twitter.com/9oAu6YnCBK

— joe (@cillanoir) September 19, 2019

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Thursday, 28 November 2019 09:36 (six years ago)

Not hearing very much about the Tories offering BXPers jobs and knighthoods etc anymore.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 November 2019 09:37 (six years ago)

Not convinced a London media economics think tank type like Grace Blakely is much of an answer to this issue really.

anyone that can channel a bit of FDR will do

anvil, Thursday, 28 November 2019 09:41 (six years ago)

Just break Skinnock's legs then

FBPRieu (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 November 2019 09:45 (six years ago)

Seriously: no xp

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 November 2019 09:45 (six years ago)

Here we go: Dominic Cummings: "supported by the likes of Goldman Sachs writing the cheques like they did in 2016, to ensure Remain win."
"the likes of Goldman Sachs'....???? Whatever can he mean????https://t.co/8QHLR5EsN5 via @wordpressdotcom

— Michael Rosen (@MichaelRosenYes) November 28, 2019

calzino, Thursday, 28 November 2019 10:00 (six years ago)

anyone that can channel a bit of FDR will do


doris stokes, we need u now more than ever

A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 28 November 2019 10:08 (six years ago)

I also know how angry he was that the government did not immediately put more money into the NHS, as should have happened and as we in Vote Leave campaigned for.

god this "making shit up" thing is so easy

FBPRieu (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 November 2019 10:09 (six years ago)

This Friday night, Laura Kuenssberg will be interviewing Boris Johnson as part of our Leaders Interview series. This will conclude our Leaders interview series ahead of the General Election on December 12th.

BBC2
29/11/2019
11PM pic.twitter.com/jiIkcKQQi8

— HD (@HDLives) November 27, 2019

Unbelievable. Possibly illegal. Certainly a grotesque act of bad faith by ANY broadcaster but potentially fatal for a state broadcaster. #BoycottBBC #GeneralElection2019

— George Galloway (@georgegalloway) November 27, 2019

groovypanda, Thursday, 28 November 2019 10:12 (six years ago)

That's legitimately insane

Frederik B, Thursday, 28 November 2019 10:13 (six years ago)

Aw bless 'im xp

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 28 November 2019 10:14 (six years ago)

It's a parody account Fred

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 28 November 2019 10:15 (six years ago)

it was a convincing parody tho - he rebranded the full account and managed to chance the account to @BBCPolitics presumably using the barcode in place of an l. almost got me but checked the follower count first

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Thursday, 28 November 2019 10:17 (six years ago)

change*

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Thursday, 28 November 2019 10:17 (six years ago)


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