Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

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NEW: The Conservatives have suspended their candidate in Glasgow Central Flora Scarabello over "alleged use of anti-Muslim language"

— Nick Eardley (@nickeardleybbc) November 27, 2019

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:26 (six years ago)

... that's the one.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:27 (six years ago)

LOL it's too late for her to be removed as a candidate.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:29 (six years ago)

"Sorry but fucking LOL"

Lol at Matt Chorley being reduced to a pathetic reply guy in the comments

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:30 (six years ago)

btw she'd previously been critical of boris and questioned his personal character...

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/flora-scarabello-who-criticised-boris-johnson-as-father-and-husband-stands-as-tory-g9n5dmcqg

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:31 (six years ago)

xp over Imperialism, which even Corbyn-critical people were defending him on?!

tl;dr Matt Chorley
https://media.giphy.com/media/l2QEbmz03DwUAowmI/giphy.gif

gyac, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:34 (six years ago)

actually it's here as well if you can't be bothered with all4 or whatever it's currently called.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neKDg1zYnuk

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:49 (six years ago)

Matt Chorley should be in favour of the leak, as prices for bloaty head treatment would no doubt cost less under a Corbyn government.

Re: the “lack of smoking gun” - the document says not to mention the NHS as they know selling it or parts of it to the US is not a popular policy. And treatment remaining free at the point of use means less when you’re paying US medicine prices for routine treatments.

There’s a whole load of dodgy sounding stuff in there besides that.

gyac, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:58 (six years ago)

Frankly "shhhhh keep these talks secret" is an enormous smoking gun to me but I am a naif

FBPRieu (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 16:01 (six years ago)

I mean these people know how this looks and how unpopular this stuff is with the public
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKYMcgRXYAAWHaK?format=png&name=large

gyac, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 16:02 (six years ago)

Matt Chorley in the replies prognosticating about things that haven't aged well, no less

A little rich

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 16:05 (six years ago)

look just because the tories sold off our railways and water and telecoms and post office and power and just because they’ve spent years underfunding the nhs to build support for selling it off and just because this document provides clear evidence that the us would demand punishing terms for any post brexit trade deal and just because the tories exist solely to funnel money to the top by asset-stripping society at every turn, there’s no reason to think they’ll sell off the nhs

A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 16:06 (six years ago)

lol! thought mark s was joking about Gladwell doing propaganda for US pharma.

calzino, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 16:08 (six years ago)

The yougov seat by seat projections are going out this evening. It was ridiculed at the time but it did turn out to be fairly accurate.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 16:09 (six years ago)

Gladwell is in top 10 cunts territory in the rodeo clowns of capitalism division so I aren't surprised

FBPRieu (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 16:10 (six years ago)

one down, many more to go

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/nov/27/boris-johnson-says-sorry-for-hurt-caused-by-islamophobia-within-conservative-party

nashwan, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 16:19 (six years ago)

lol, shook

A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 16:21 (six years ago)

Smart tactical move tbh. Fuck.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 16:22 (six years ago)

still no personal apology from boris tho

A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 16:23 (six years ago)

Scarabello heckled BJ earlier this month about how a PM should be a good husband and father lol. No love lost there.

Will be interesting to see how the media treat BJ on this, with this on the table:

In response to Johnson’s apology, Akhtar called the prime minister’s comments “very generous”, but added: “While I accept his apology for hurt and offence caused by Islamophobia within the party, I think specifically his comments were the views that were hurtful even if that was not his intent and I think he should apologise for those as well.”

Let the pummeling begin!

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 16:33 (six years ago)

Lol @ the comments from that cunt Shuker in that piece

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 16:35 (six years ago)

Sounds like Scarabello was taken down in a deliberate set-up:

4.20pm 16:20
Libby Brooks

Libby Brooks

The Scottish Conservatives have suspended their general election candidate for Glasgow Central following complaints about Islamophobic language.

Flora Scarabello will have support for her campaign withdrawn, following the submission of a complaint to the party’s central office about the alleged use of “anti-Muslim language”. It is being reported that the details emerged in a private phone call, which was recorded and sent to party officials.

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 16:41 (six years ago)

that obviously does not excuse whatever she said

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 16:42 (six years ago)

Will be interesting to see how the media treat BJ on this


i’m confident the british press will really put him through the wringer on this one - if there’s one thing that the fourth estate is united on it’s a steely opposition to islamophobia in all its forms and a desire to see its perpetrators held to account

A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 16:42 (six years ago)

yougov MRP thing is in the times so assume it won’t be good for LAB

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 16:44 (six years ago)

It's unveiled in association with The Times, wouldn't it be independent?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 16:47 (six years ago)

Anyone know who is paying Gladwell for this...bizarre intervention? What's the story?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 16:55 (six years ago)

Also...Curtice is cancelled:

Curtice has been terrible so far this election tbh. Seems worth remembering that the skill sets of "overseeing and interpreting an extremely reliable exit poll" and "all purpose election campaign pundit" are not the same. https://t.co/DeGHhCfjYL

— Lafargue (@Lafargue) November 27, 2019

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 16:56 (six years ago)

Gladwell has been taking money from pharma and tobacco companies for twenty years, at least.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 16:57 (six years ago)

Sounds like Scarabello was taken down in a deliberate set-up:

4.20pm 16:20
Libby Brooks
Libby Brooks

The Scottish Conservatives have suspended their general election candidate for Glasgow Central following complaints about Islamophobic language.

Flora Scarabello will have support for her campaign withdrawn, following the submission of a complaint to the party’s central office about the alleged use of “anti-Muslim language”. It is being reported that the details emerged in a private phone call, which was recorded and sent to party officials.

― Wee Bloabby (NickB), Wednesday, November 27, 2019 8:41 AM (nineteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

honestly why bother trying to take down a tory who is standing in glasgow central lol

#FBPIRA (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 17:02 (six years ago)

he’s also got a new book of extremely-not-bullshit pseudoscience to sell

A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 17:02 (six years ago)

Believe I've already called for the death of senile old Tory cunt John Curtice on this thread

FBPRieu (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 17:05 (six years ago)

tories take racism seriously in a marginal challenge

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 17:06 (six years ago)

Gladwell has been taking money from pharma and tobacco companies for twenty years, at least.

― Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 bookmarkflaglink

On the clip he was all "I went to this conference last week".

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 17:08 (six years ago)

“and claimed a huge speaking fee from glaxosmithkline”

A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 17:09 (six years ago)

The latest version of the NHS story on the BBC website is now titled "Row over Labour's 'NHS for sale' claim"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50572454

The whole thing reads like it's straight out of a CCHQ press release, even the bits in there for "balance" are hedged so much they barely count

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 17:09 (six years ago)

honestly why bother trying to take down a tory who is standing in glasgow central lol

she was previously critical of johnson + tories want to be seen as tough on islamophobia = ?

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 17:09 (six years ago)

If we can win this election I hope we start executing BBC journalists before christmas

FBPRieu (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 17:11 (six years ago)

honestly why bother trying to take down a tory who is standing in glasgow central lol

she was previously critical of johnson + tories want to be seen as tough on islamophobia = ?

― Wee Bloabby (NickB), Wednesday, November 27, 2019 9:09 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i guess this is why! tories at good at cynical shithousery

#FBPIRA (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 17:13 (six years ago)

dammit i finally have a Vote Labour poster for the window and it prominently features my Blairite lapdog MP

FBPRieu (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 17:22 (six years ago)

his name does more exposure after him suffering the ignominy of Cummings saying "sorry but I don't even know who you are"

calzino, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 17:33 (six years ago)

Best For Britain attempts its own MRP - sample size just under 40K
https://gallery.mailchimp.com/a706d4e03dc82629db3f7acf9/files/ae6c2fb1-48aa-4c6f-8a3d-b5f8fd958956/Best_for_Britain_Recommendation_Seats.pdf

nashwan, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 17:46 (six years ago)

are they recommending LDs in any dumb seats

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 17:55 (six years ago)

all of them, by definition

FBPRieu (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 18:00 (six years ago)

i'm not reading all that shit but i've already found a couple where the recommendation based on Labour being 10% ahead of the LDs is "Labour/Lib Dem"

FBPRieu (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 18:02 (six years ago)

I scribbled down some half garbled thoughts last week about potential tailwinds for labour this time round:

1 JC’s hegemony means they’ll be able to fight a more effective campaign as he’ll have more authority to direct resources. So eg they won’t run the Scottish campaign like an Edinburgh South by-election this time round.

2 The post-2017 Electoral Map is very healthy. 1 pt swing for 15 seats. Further 21 seats if they replicate 2017 swing.

3 They’ve played their (difficult) Brexit hand very well and would have a coherent position which respects the referendum but also motivates their remain base.

4 They have maintained their 2017 coalition (broadly). They’re still polling broadly equal despite the 2 yr media onslaught and mischaracterisation. Inside Purdah, their polling will rise (though I suspect the press may play faster and looser this time round).

5 People like to vote for the winners. People say they benefited from sympathy votes last time round & a lack of credibility so people didn’t worry about voting for them. The evidence doesn’t bear this out.

6 TIG may be more of a threat to Tories than Labour

7 Scottish dimension is not well understood. Labour have a resonant offer for people who (I) feel the pain of austerity; and (II) worry about the democratic deficit [their last manifesto talked about increased federalism]. —— this part is least well thought through though I will say that if SNP get 49 seats at GE19 I will eat matt goodwin’s book AND one of giles coren’s children

― PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 12:26 (eight months ago) bookmarkflaglink

depressing

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 18:13 (six years ago)

Lol @ Tig as somehow relevant

plax (ico), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 18:15 (six years ago)

you might have to eat that book and child also

#FBPIRA (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 18:16 (six years ago)

8 doses of mebendazole in UK = <£20
8 doses of mebendazole in US = $3,520

My youngest got threadworm. It’s a common, minor thing. Treatment is one pill now and one in two weeks. The whole family gets treated: that’s eight pills. I went to the pharmacist counter at Superdrug this morning. I got change from £20.

— George MacKerron (@jawj) November 25, 2019

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 18:20 (six years ago)

The NHS dossier seems idk really important? I was thinking labor desperately needs a dementia tax but this should dwarf it (except I know kuenssberg Peston etc). Still Johnson already running scared from Neil interview has echoes of 2017. You have to hand it to Corbyn, he will walk calmly into the lion's den again and again, they don't like him and he doesn't like them.

plax (ico), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 18:22 (six years ago)


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