Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

couple of years of secret talks between two closely ideologically-inclined rightwing governments vs one brief call from a minister: who am i, robert peston, to decide which is more persuasive and anyway when you get right down to it what really is truth anyway

being in a position to do so, I make another small donation today to the british labour party

ad hominem is bad not good but maybe don't send well known bullshit artist MALCOLM FUCKING GLADWELL in as yr expert on drug pricing ffs

excuse me, that’s MALCOLM FUCKING KIDS WITH EPSTEIN GLADWELL to you, thank you very much

This seems eminently correct:

Publish your plans for scrutiny and transparency in trade negotiations. Publish a trade strategy. Publish a mandate for each negotiation. Then your claims may be more believable. https://t.co/UtiZXtdan5

— David Henig (@DavidHenigUK) November 27, 2019

Checking the passages Corbyn is quoting, and they are taken a bit out of context. But reading the context it's crazy how little the UK negotiators apparently say. There really seems to be no idea about what's to gain by moving from being aligned with EU to being more aligned by US. And what is there to be gained, if it's not pro-corporate anti-regulation laws? That's what US stands for! It's common sense. And with known liar Boris Johnson ahead of secretive talks, of course everyone should be concerned.

#disgracedDrLiamFox watch

No govt ministers appear to have been present apart from Liam Fox at the first meeting - altho officials of course are always very well aware of what ministers want and don't want!

— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) November 27, 2019

She's being wilfully obtuse about this. Gunning for another entry under her 'accusations of bias' wiki lemma I reckon.

McDonnell and Starmer have both given personal apologies about all of this today https://t.co/aessQdwyQO

— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) November 27, 2019

So wHy NoT JeBeDiAh CrOmrYne?1!?3!

I'm not going to look at her tweets anymore*, I swear.

(* today)

yeah can we stop

I mean it's just nagl to go from "It's Theresa May's time in office" to "officials are well aware of what ministers want" two tweets later, when one of the minister's was Boris!

xps no

For those asking when Boris Johnson's interview will take place, we're in ongoing discussions with his team but we haven't yet been able to fix a date

— BBC News Press Team (@BBCNewsPR) November 27, 2019

i want the juiciest content of the dossier, not kuenssberg's entire feed, is that too much to ask

i get the feeling that there is not one singularly damning thing in there, it's more the implications raised by the extensiveness and scope of the discussions had with the salivating jackals of corporate america

well yes, but it is imperative that something punchy and visceral be compiled

Why on earth would Boris do the Neil interview now? Just let it slide.

But important to note, the documents do not show final agreement on UK side, and don't confirm Labour's claim the govt is trying to sell off the NHS - documents go up til July 19 covering Theresa May, not Boris Johnson's time in office

— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) November 27, 2019

There wouldn't be final agreement because we haven't left yet. But there is plenty here.

I didn't see the Dispatches at the time but I wouldn't be surprised if this didn't add to what was there. The point is to say there is a good chance if we go there that the NHS will be dismantled.

The country has two weeks to reflect on this.

He was Foreign Secretary ffs!

FUCKING HELL, THIS IS LIKE RECEIVING A LETTER OFF THE ZODIAC KILLER SAYING HE’S GOING TO MURDER AGAIN AND THE MEDIA GOING “ACTUALLY, NO I DON’T THINK HE WILL THIS TIME”

— NEO (@MULLET_FAN_NEO) November 27, 2019

i want the juiciest content of the dossier, not kuenssberg's entire feed, is that too much to ask

― imago, 27. november 2019 15:57 (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I think the juiciest bit is from the discussion on food standards: That they should get the US to share their public lines on chlorine-washed chicken to help inform the media narrative around the issue. That sounds horrible! Other than that, there kinda isn't any smoking gun. What is most alarming is that the UK negotiators aren't at any time taking the NHS off the table. That would be easy to do, and they don't, and that should speak volumes. But probably doesn't.

the dispatches is here:

https://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/on-demand/70263-001

Thanks!

Sorry but fucking LOL

This did not age well. https://t.co/a2OMUsUvDW

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) November 27, 2019

Another Tory candidate suspended over "use of anti-Muslim language", this time in Glasgow.

NEW: The Conservatives have suspended their candidate in Glasgow Central Flora Scarabello over "alleged use of anti-Muslim language"

— Nick Eardley (@nickeardleybbc) November 27, 2019

... that's the one.

LOL it's too late for her to be removed as a candidate.

"Sorry but fucking LOL"

Lol at Matt Chorley being reduced to a pathetic reply guy in the comments

btw she'd previously been critical of boris and questioned his personal character...

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/flora-scarabello-who-criticised-boris-johnson-as-father-and-husband-stands-as-tory-g9n5dmcqg

xp over Imperialism, which even Corbyn-critical people were defending him on?!

tl;dr Matt Chorley
https://media.giphy.com/media/l2QEbmz03DwUAowmI/giphy.gif

actually it's here as well if you can't be bothered with all4 or whatever it's currently called.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neKDg1zYnuk

Matt Chorley should be in favour of the leak, as prices for bloaty head treatment would no doubt cost less under a Corbyn government.

Re: the “lack of smoking gun” - the document says not to mention the NHS as they know selling it or parts of it to the US is not a popular policy. And treatment remaining free at the point of use means less when you’re paying US medicine prices for routine treatments.

There’s a whole load of dodgy sounding stuff in there besides that.

Frankly "shhhhh keep these talks secret" is an enormous smoking gun to me but I am a naif

I mean these people know how this looks and how unpopular this stuff is with the public
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKYMcgRXYAAWHaK?format=png&name=large

Matt Chorley in the replies prognosticating about things that haven't aged well, no less

A little rich

look just because the tories sold off our railways and water and telecoms and post office and power and just because they’ve spent years underfunding the nhs to build support for selling it off and just because this document provides clear evidence that the us would demand punishing terms for any post brexit trade deal and just because the tories exist solely to funnel money to the top by asset-stripping society at every turn, there’s no reason to think they’ll sell off the nhs

lol! thought mark s was joking about Gladwell doing propaganda for US pharma.

The yougov seat by seat projections are going out this evening. It was ridiculed at the time but it did turn out to be fairly accurate.

Gladwell is in top 10 cunts territory in the rodeo clowns of capitalism division so I aren't surprised

one down, many more to go

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/nov/27/boris-johnson-says-sorry-for-hurt-caused-by-islamophobia-within-conservative-party

lol, shook

Smart tactical move tbh. Fuck.

still no personal apology from boris tho

Scarabello heckled BJ earlier this month about how a PM should be a good husband and father lol. No love lost there.

Will be interesting to see how the media treat BJ on this, with this on the table:

In response to Johnson’s apology, Akhtar called the prime minister’s comments “very generous”, but added: “While I accept his apology for hurt and offence caused by Islamophobia within the party, I think specifically his comments were the views that were hurtful even if that was not his intent and I think he should apologise for those as well.”

Let the pummeling begin!

Lol @ the comments from that cunt Shuker in that piece

Sounds like Scarabello was taken down in a deliberate set-up:

4.20pm 16:20
Libby Brooks

Libby Brooks

The Scottish Conservatives have suspended their general election candidate for Glasgow Central following complaints about Islamophobic language.

Flora Scarabello will have support for her campaign withdrawn, following the submission of a complaint to the party’s central office about the alleged use of “anti-Muslim language”. It is being reported that the details emerged in a private phone call, which was recorded and sent to party officials.

that obviously does not excuse whatever she said

Will be interesting to see how the media treat BJ on this

yougov MRP thing is in the times so assume it won’t be good for LAB

It's unveiled in association with The Times, wouldn't it be independent?

Anyone know who is paying Gladwell for this...bizarre intervention? What's the story?