Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

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tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 13:13 (six years ago)

bbc’s norman smith just described labour’s release of the nhs documents as ‘a rather crude scare tactic’, so everyone just chill out

A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 13:15 (six years ago)

loool xxxp

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 13:15 (six years ago)

wtf

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 13:15 (six years ago)

emma barnett + chris mason dismissed it as a "dead cat"

calzino, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 13:16 (six years ago)

nice try bbc but this fire is out of your control

calzino, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 13:17 (six years ago)

Why do I even bother ffs

stet, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 13:19 (six years ago)

someone on the Charlton forum keeps calling it a dead cat but he's a nutcase who calls Corbyn a racist four times a day so

imago, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 13:20 (six years ago)

Which noone, including jouurnalists (hands up) seemed to notice - there is a lot of interesting stuff in the documents which are mainly not about the health service

— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) November 27, 2019


the jouurnalists at C4 did a dispatches programme about this a few weeks ago so someone was clearly paying attention

gyac, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 13:20 (six years ago)

Hope the Russia report comes out on TikTok next

gyac, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 13:23 (six years ago)

Leak it on ilxor dot com, insiders

stet, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 13:25 (six years ago)

.@jeremycorbyn "I love every day campaigning and yesterday was another day I loved"!

— Robert Peston (@Peston) November 27, 2019

Devastating thread about the Spectator

i would really like to know where @Peston gets off, thinking he can write condemning antisemitism in a far right, consistently antisemitic publication like the @spectator? https://t.co/2w4VQ12jbi

— michael (@Sisyphusa) November 27, 2019

gyac, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 13:27 (six years ago)

guys we need this Labour government so badly!!

nothing clever to add here, just what I'm feeling rn

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 13:35 (six years ago)

nhs, brexit, school fees, ub, council funding- we need a change so fucking bad

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 13:36 (six years ago)

for the record: i agree

A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 13:37 (six years ago)

not mean UK will roll over and allow patent extensions that would push up price of drugs for NHS. Minister rings me to say that Tory manifesto explicitly rules out a trade agreement with US that would lead to increase in price of drugs for NHS. I ask minister if...

— Robert Peston (@Peston) November 27, 2019


that pledge also means Johnson would reject any increase in patent length. Minister insists it does. So we are once again back to the issue of trust.

— Robert Peston (@Peston) November 27, 2019

This is Peston's only takeaway from the report. One ring from a minister and all is well again. Laughable.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 13:40 (six years ago)

Good luck (unironically)!

pomenitul, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 13:40 (six years ago)

couple of years of secret talks between two closely ideologically-inclined rightwing governments vs one brief call from a minister: who am i, robert peston, to decide which is more persuasive and anyway when you get right down to it what really is truth anyway

A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 13:45 (six years ago)

being in a position to do so, I make another small donation today to the british labour party

conrad, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 14:18 (six years ago)

ad hominem is bad not good but maybe don't send well known bullshit artist MALCOLM FUCKING GLADWELL in as yr expert on drug pricing ffs

mark s, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 14:24 (six years ago)

excuse me, that’s MALCOLM FUCKING KIDS WITH EPSTEIN GLADWELL to you, thank you very much

A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 14:28 (six years ago)

This seems eminently correct:

Publish your plans for scrutiny and transparency in trade negotiations. Publish a trade strategy. Publish a mandate for each negotiation. Then your claims may be more believable. https://t.co/UtiZXtdan5

— David Henig (@DavidHenigUK) November 27, 2019

Checking the passages Corbyn is quoting, and they are taken a bit out of context. But reading the context it's crazy how little the UK negotiators apparently say. There really seems to be no idea about what's to gain by moving from being aligned with EU to being more aligned by US. And what is there to be gained, if it's not pro-corporate anti-regulation laws? That's what US stands for! It's common sense. And with known liar Boris Johnson ahead of secretive talks, of course everyone should be concerned.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 14:30 (six years ago)

#disgracedDrLiamFox watch

No govt ministers appear to have been present apart from Liam Fox at the first meeting - altho officials of course are always very well aware of what ministers want and don't want!

— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) November 27, 2019

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 14:44 (six years ago)

She's being wilfully obtuse about this. Gunning for another entry under her 'accusations of bias' wiki lemma I reckon.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 14:48 (six years ago)

McDonnell and Starmer have both given personal apologies about all of this today https://t.co/aessQdwyQO

— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) November 27, 2019

So wHy NoT JeBeDiAh CrOmrYne?1!?3!

I'm not going to look at her tweets anymore*, I swear.

(* today)

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 14:50 (six years ago)

yeah can we stop

imago, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 14:51 (six years ago)

I mean it's just nagl to go from "It's Theresa May's time in office" to "officials are well aware of what ministers want" two tweets later, when one of the minister's was Boris!

xps no

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 14:52 (six years ago)

For those asking when Boris Johnson's interview will take place, we're in ongoing discussions with his team but we haven't yet been able to fix a date

— BBC News Press Team (@BBCNewsPR) November 27, 2019

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 14:55 (six years ago)

i want the juiciest content of the dossier, not kuenssberg's entire feed, is that too much to ask

imago, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 14:57 (six years ago)

i get the feeling that there is not one singularly damning thing in there, it's more the implications raised by the extensiveness and scope of the discussions had with the salivating jackals of corporate america

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:01 (six years ago)

well yes, but it is imperative that something punchy and visceral be compiled

imago, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:03 (six years ago)

Why on earth would Boris do the Neil interview now? Just let it slide.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:06 (six years ago)

But important to note, the documents do not show final agreement on UK side, and don't confirm Labour's claim the govt is trying to sell off the NHS - documents go up til July 19 covering Theresa May, not Boris Johnson's time in office

— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) November 27, 2019

There wouldn't be final agreement because we haven't left yet. But there is plenty here.

I didn't see the Dispatches at the time but I wouldn't be surprised if this didn't add to what was there. The point is to say there is a good chance if we go there that the NHS will be dismantled.

The country has two weeks to reflect on this.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:08 (six years ago)

He was Foreign Secretary ffs!

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:11 (six years ago)

FUCKING HELL, THIS IS LIKE RECEIVING A LETTER OFF THE ZODIAC KILLER SAYING HE’S GOING TO MURDER AGAIN AND THE MEDIA GOING “ACTUALLY, NO I DON’T THINK HE WILL THIS TIME”

— NEO (@MULLET_FAN_NEO) November 27, 2019

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:14 (six years ago)

i want the juiciest content of the dossier, not kuenssberg's entire feed, is that too much to ask

― imago, 27. november 2019 15:57 (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I think the juiciest bit is from the discussion on food standards: That they should get the US to share their public lines on chlorine-washed chicken to help inform the media narrative around the issue. That sounds horrible! Other than that, there kinda isn't any smoking gun. What is most alarming is that the UK negotiators aren't at any time taking the NHS off the table. That would be easy to do, and they don't, and that should speak volumes. But probably doesn't.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:16 (six years ago)

the dispatches is here:

https://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/on-demand/70263-001

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:16 (six years ago)

Thanks!

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:20 (six years ago)

Sorry but fucking LOL

This did not age well. https://t.co/a2OMUsUvDW

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) November 27, 2019

gyac, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:24 (six years ago)

Another Tory candidate suspended over "use of anti-Muslim language", this time in Glasgow.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:26 (six years ago)

NEW: The Conservatives have suspended their candidate in Glasgow Central Flora Scarabello over "alleged use of anti-Muslim language"

— Nick Eardley (@nickeardleybbc) November 27, 2019

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:26 (six years ago)

... that's the one.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:27 (six years ago)

LOL it's too late for her to be removed as a candidate.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:29 (six years ago)

"Sorry but fucking LOL"

Lol at Matt Chorley being reduced to a pathetic reply guy in the comments

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:30 (six years ago)

btw she'd previously been critical of boris and questioned his personal character...

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/flora-scarabello-who-criticised-boris-johnson-as-father-and-husband-stands-as-tory-g9n5dmcqg

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:31 (six years ago)

xp over Imperialism, which even Corbyn-critical people were defending him on?!

tl;dr Matt Chorley
https://media.giphy.com/media/l2QEbmz03DwUAowmI/giphy.gif

gyac, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:34 (six years ago)

actually it's here as well if you can't be bothered with all4 or whatever it's currently called.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neKDg1zYnuk

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:49 (six years ago)

Matt Chorley should be in favour of the leak, as prices for bloaty head treatment would no doubt cost less under a Corbyn government.

Re: the “lack of smoking gun” - the document says not to mention the NHS as they know selling it or parts of it to the US is not a popular policy. And treatment remaining free at the point of use means less when you’re paying US medicine prices for routine treatments.

There’s a whole load of dodgy sounding stuff in there besides that.

gyac, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:58 (six years ago)

Frankly "shhhhh keep these talks secret" is an enormous smoking gun to me but I am a naif

FBPRieu (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 16:01 (six years ago)

I mean these people know how this looks and how unpopular this stuff is with the public
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKYMcgRXYAAWHaK?format=png&name=large

gyac, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 16:02 (six years ago)


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