Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

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yes, 3rd or 4th of december i believe

#FBPIRA (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 21:31 (six years ago)

'Frost-Nixon' levels. My god @ these pricks

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 21:35 (six years ago)

not gonna lie, the prospect of swindon getting monstered is appealing

A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 21:36 (six years ago)

Glen O’Hara a real shame to the diaspora and a real snide cunt in general, look at the soup taking head on him

gyac, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 21:36 (six years ago)

his books look as dull as fuck - he should eat them!

calzino, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 21:43 (six years ago)

Who’s excited about this then? I know I am!

#Tory plan to raise pension age to 75 "It proposes raising the eligible age to 70 by 2028 and 75 by 2035. The first people likely to be affected by such a change are those born between March 6, 1961 and April 5, 1977." https://t.co/v5U3xayNBw

— AnotherGreen (@Anothergreen) November 3, 2019

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 21:55 (six years ago)

Ah that’s slightly old news - missed it the first time round

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 21:57 (six years ago)

IDS is good again (by nine months)

mark s, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 21:58 (six years ago)

thread on what’s in the race and faith manifesto

1/13 So, a quick(ish) thread on what Labour have announced on asylum and immigration. Short version: there’s some really good and important stuff in the manifesto. But a bit woolly on detail and some unfortunate omissions.

— Alasdair Mackenzie (@AlasdairMack66) November 21, 2019

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 22:01 (six years ago)

-numbers who say they’ve been “politicised/radicalised” by the Brexit process (rather than Brexit itself) extraordinary.
-Think Tories really do have a LibDem problem in south east which national polls not revealing.
-Lots of lifelong Tories not voting Con for first time.

— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) November 26, 2019

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 22:15 (six years ago)

Tom D.

I’m in Luke Graham’s seat and I know of farmers who have voted Tory all their lives , voting for SNP - they’re not really pro Independence but they would rather that than Boris Johnson

— Asteroid (@AsteroidDavid) November 26, 2019

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 22:16 (six years ago)

https://i.postimg.cc/yxZg0yWT/1-F8-FBC6-A-1-E40-4577-9-A39-124665-C9-D1-C6.jpg
Just spotted a bunch of these at my station

gyac, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 22:38 (six years ago)

Lol

Roxy Music went shit after "For Your Pleasure". There's a good reason for that. Use your head this 12th December.#GeneralElection2019 @MomentumLeeds pic.twitter.com/UwzjWgyLIG

— Manchester Momentum (@McrMomentum) November 26, 2019

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 22:44 (six years ago)

Haha!

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 22:47 (six years ago)

can't agree with that I'm afraid. dance away > all

#FBPIRA (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 22:47 (six years ago)

Factional Roxy Music beef is it?
https://www.last.fm/user/baggymp/library/music/Roxy+Music

gyac, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 22:55 (six years ago)

what’s the news today? it’s the Muslim Council of Britain criticising the Tories and Javid refusing 7 times to condemn Johnson’s remarks about Muslims? right? lemme scroll up

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 22:58 (six years ago)

He's apologised in the past, right? Why not do it here even if the line of questioning is in obvious bad faith. This had better not turn out to be a pivotal moment in the campaign.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 23:14 (six years ago)

Gyac :D

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 23:17 (six years ago)

Oh my fucking God

Zoom in on my glasses. pic.twitter.com/vAgGdxHbJy

— Jeremy Corbyn 🚨 Register To Vote by 11.59pm 🚨 (@jeremycorbyn) November 26, 2019

gyac, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 23:23 (six years ago)

This had better not turn out to be a pivotal moment in the campaign

It will be spun like that, for sure. The Tory media gears are in full motion, the beeb now openly one of them. They couldn't fault Corbyn or the Labour manifesto for anything. It's never about policy in the end. The joker card is the supposed 'Cromryn is anti-semitist': a faux last resort, and it duly delivered 'Hello darkness my old friend' style. Racist-and-proud BoJo* doesn't suffer the same treatment. He's 'quirky' and 'clumsy' and 'not great but we just need to get things/brexit done' etc.

* Is he the only PM on the planet who refuses to disclose how many children he has? He must be.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 23:33 (six years ago)

Apologising is giving in to the obvious trap of having to apologise over and over again for something in a situation where the multiple apologies can then be used as proof that his apologies are meaningless or he is incompetent. In refusing to engage on this particular question (and presumably he is prepared to be asked to apologise a bunch more times between now and indeed after the election), and bearing in mind Johnson and Javid are demonstrably more evasive on this or at least have more things to have to refuse to apologise for (tho it would probably actually swing a few voters their way and perhaps as a result of the media line on this they might even attempt it), there is no (further) opening of the door to the trap (where even referring to past apologies risks that). That approach would not work without having apologised before, and it still may not, but it seems reasonable under those circumstances.

nashwan, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 23:36 (six years ago)

Corbyn interview being compared to the Prince Andrew interview on Sky right now.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 23:42 (six years ago)

Also getting criticized not for being unable to answer questions but for taking too long to answer questions.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 23:46 (six years ago)

ffs

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 23:46 (six years ago)

Switch it off and go to bed Tom

gyac, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 23:47 (six years ago)

Or listen to some early Roxy Music

gyac, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 23:47 (six years ago)

fuck all this X-Factor bollox, just get the manifesto out there.

calzino, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 23:48 (six years ago)

xp Lol, would recommend 'Another Green World' by that man Brian. Sweet dreams.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 23:52 (six years ago)

Well, I've just been to see AMM and bought a couple of their CDs so I suppose I should be blasting them out - but I'm going to my bed instead.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 23:53 (six years ago)

Had to refresh memory of AN's interview of Corbyn in May 2017
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2017/may/26/general-election-2017-terror-corbyn-may-g7-sicily-politics-live

no questions on antisemitism mentioned in that coverage (but a shitload about the IRA) which surprises me tbh

nashwan, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 23:54 (six years ago)

Yes, they thought they could get him on that only to find out no-one really gives that much of a shit about the IRA anymore, Martin McGuinness is just some Irish politician who met the Queen or something, and there's millions of voters for whom the Troubles is ancient history.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 23:58 (six years ago)

There were deffo a load of the usual cunts trying to own Corbyn when Martin McG died.

gyac, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 00:00 (six years ago)

Did people see the footage of Corbyn arriving at the Labour event today where he was surrounded by a scrum of meatheads who pushed yelling past his wife and separated her from him?

santa clause four (suzy), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 00:02 (six years ago)

Schrodingers Corbyn, he both keeps seeing off centrist parties and is also so useless we need a centrist party. Please subscribe to my podcast for more takes like these. pic.twitter.com/aVfTuSy6JL

— The Trashies (@TheTrashiesUK) November 27, 2019

I'll kill this deluded melt arsehole last

calzino, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 01:05 (six years ago)

Andrew Neil is perhaps not the person who should be demanding Jeremy Corbyn apologise to Jewish people: after all, he paid David Irving to translate Goebbels’ diaries, holds dinners for Orban supporters and their affiliated think tanks and employs antisemites as Spectator columnists. He literally signs Taki’s cheques. Corbyn’s ‘don’t do personal’ stance is laudable but I would really like to see someone with a decent platform bring this up.

santa clause four (suzy), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 07:40 (six years ago)

DIdn't see the interview how did it go? Were any other topics covered?

anvil, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 07:52 (six years ago)

All of this stuff matters and is pertinent - and yes apologising falls into Andrew Neil's twatty elephant trap but failing to do it creates 24hrs worth of avoidable terrible headlines on the only wedge issue that seems to be working and also falls into the twatty elephant trap.

How hard would it have been to have said what he's said in the past - ie "we got it wrong, the response hasn't been good enough, we've dealt with it, we apologise and you have nothing to fear from us". Or any answer that might have defused the question rather than amplifying it.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 08:03 (six years ago)

660k voter registrations yesterday

kantar unweighted poll has LAB 1pt down. turnout will be key. GOTV operation has to be massive from momentum and the party

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 08:04 (six years ago)

matt DC otm

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 08:04 (six years ago)

turns out neil may have had his facts wrong on the two members’ cases he cited? claims both resigned immediately

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 08:09 (six years ago)

thank god we have twitter/facebook etc now to combat a lot of this stuff

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 08:12 (six years ago)

You'd expect Neil to give Swinson a savaging but following those two interviews up with a session of Spectator lads bantz with Johnson would do the BBC more harm than good so you've got to hope that Boris turns in an absolute car crash.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 08:12 (six years ago)

660k voter registrations yesterday

What level of comparability to 2017 is there here? This sounds like a lot of people, but then what matters the number in marginals (and not falling into trap of just assuming they're registering to vote for Labour. Caveat, I am inside this trap right now please help)

anvil, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 08:14 (six years ago)

his interview last time is famous for the GATT article 5(b) clip. would expect him to go in hard on BJ too. not sure andrew “the spectator” neil will have a dossier on islamophobia mind.

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 08:15 (six years ago)

Swinson didn’t turn up for hustings in Kirkintilloch. .....a hustings which many said SNP won well.Swinson made a bad mistake. At the weekend she saw her lead cut from 12 points to just four with momentum now for SNP and against Swinson. She’s in big trouble.

— Grey Panther (@Anderston42) November 26, 2019

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 08:16 (six years ago)

I said on here the media would play fast and loose w purdah this time round but genuinely did not expect some of the stuff that’s been coming out the BBC. don’t know why really - we saw how they behaved during indyref. wonder if that might even move some ex-LAB now-SNP votes towards us.

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 08:26 (six years ago)

Everyone who has been dissuaded from voting Tory because of Islamophobia has already done so. Doesn't mean it shljdlnt be covered, but better to attack Johnson on his long history of anti-black racism, Windrush, and the obvious gigantic holes in the Get Brexit Done argument.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 08:45 (six years ago)

Oh also the Russia dossier which everyone appears to have agreed not to talk about.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 08:46 (six years ago)

Karl McCartney was @Conservatives MP from 2010, lost in 2017
Since 2018 he has for a “sustained period” retweeted "far-right propaganda" from Tommy Robinson & Katie Hopkins @hopenothate
In 2019 we think him fit for office -meet our candidate in Lincoln 🤦🏽‍♀️https://t.co/YyInU5x4MV

— Sayeeda Warsi (@SayeedaWarsi) November 26, 2019

sometimes you do have to agree with a tory when she keeps repeating the message that her party has a huge Islamophobia problem and is doing nothing about it. That he's still running as a candidate should be a scandal.

calzino, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 08:46 (six years ago)


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