food in this film, ranked
Okay, I shat the bed on this one, so here's an amended list with the footstuffs I missed the first go (but not the other ones I probably forgot) https://t.co/gWBBaFH89a pic.twitter.com/oupxXGmQRV— Matt Prigge (@mattprigge) November 25, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link
LOL thats great
the prison ice cream sundae is a tough one for me bc one the one hand it was probably prepared with much more time and care than yr typical sundae on the outside so i thought maybe it shld rank higher, but on the other hand the dude also might have spit in it or something so i geuss its a wash
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 17:47 (four years ago) link
i forget the details in the book re how Hoffa got the perk of prison ice cream, if there were any
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link
this is a fun, lightly dishy, not particularly illuminating read.https://www.gq.com/story/al-pacino-and-robert-deniro-godfathers-of-the-year-2019
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link
Everyone mentions how little steven is in this but i was caught completely unprepared for the sudden surprise appearance of Action Bronson, which caught me v off guard
otoh, macho dimwits in my theater were cheering and rolling in the aisles laughing at all of the beatdowns and moldy mob jokes. "The only way three people can keep a secret - is if two of them are dead!"got huuuge bellylaughs. When HOffa's fate became clear after the testimonial dinner they laughed at almost every Pacino line, I guess bc they found it hilarious that he didnt know he was going to get murdered, which was kind of depressing to be around.
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 20:01 (four years ago) link
I sat next to a very hyped (coked?) up Dutch hipster - slicked back hair and pointy shoes, chewing gum and looking around before the film began like he was in character for a bit part in, you guessed it, a mob film - and some old ladies on my first viewing. Hipster and his buddy LOVED the "Leave it like ya left Berlin" line and any violent scenes while the old ladies very audibly gasped "Oooh!" throughout the entire film anytime said violence happened. Going to the movies in 2019, man...
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 08:44 (four years ago) link
can someone explain why the film appears on Netflix starting today, and is still in a few dozen theaters? I thought there was going to be no overlap, contractually.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 November 2019 00:22 (four years ago) link
also Anna seems pleased with the film and Marty
Paquin on why Scorsese chose her: https://t.co/Hy6nikReLj pic.twitter.com/kid1LjyIVa— Peter Labuza (@labuzamovies) November 27, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 November 2019 00:23 (four years ago) link
Gonna give Bo Dietl prime real estate in end-of-year movie polls pic.twitter.com/ykKFJWymAq— Matt Prigge (@mattprigge) November 27, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 November 2019 00:33 (four years ago) link
Jesse Plemons barely has more dialogue than Paquin and it’s mostly arguing about fish WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE
― Chris L, Thursday, 28 November 2019 00:43 (four years ago) link
Finally have multiple videos of Jimmy Hoffa open-mouth gnarling on testimonial dinner steak while glowering at his many enemies pic.twitter.com/hYPrCfX71G— Matt Prigge (@mattprigge) November 27, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 November 2019 01:06 (four years ago) link
Liked this but by no means a masterpiece, or a career summation. And the meaninglessness of their lives and their power, I thought that was all conveyed pretty clearly in Goodfellas and Casino. The last half hour is the only exceptional part of the movie.
Pesci has never been better. Dead ringer for Sidney Lumet of all people. Pacino sucked, pick a fucking accent dude. Reminded me of Orson Welles trying to do Irish in The Lady from Shanghai.
The criticism of Paquin is baffling to me... I thought her performance was substantial and by no means quotidian. What is this literalism with line counts? Come on.
Morbs OTM about DeNiro calling Hoffa's widow. I didn't think he was particularly remarkable until the last half hour.
Loved the Touchez Pas Au Grisbi motif incorporated throughout, first in its original harmonica version and then those mournful cellos.
What's up with the two titles?
― flappy bird, Friday, 29 November 2019 00:00 (four years ago) link
FBI: Frank, everyone’s dead. Tell us what happened to Hoffa.Frank: Hey! Im so glad you reached out. I’m actually at capacity / helping someone who’s in crisis / dealing with some personal stuff right now, and I don’t think I can hold appropriate space for you. Could we connect— Alex Sherman (@shermitthefrog) November 28, 2019
― flappy bird, Friday, 29 November 2019 00:08 (four years ago) link
(Based on nothing, obv:) I wonder if Netflix insisted on The Irishman, and Marty was like fine but I’m still putting the title I like better in the actual movie
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Friday, 29 November 2019 01:40 (four years ago) link
that was my guess too. Good for him
― flappy bird, Friday, 29 November 2019 04:37 (four years ago) link
otm
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 November 2019 12:36 (four years ago) link
I loved the 'secret' title. It also ties into how language is constantly used to mask things, they paint houses, things are what they are. Nobody talks about how serious and dangerous what they do is. To a large extent, it seemed to me to be a film about psychological repression. The most uncanny thing to me was how it felt like there were all these other stories going on, which nobody really knew about. The fact that the death dates of all the gangsters kept popping up, and that they all seemed to die 79-81, ended up being really creepy. And there's all this stuff about politics and union organization, which is never really delved into, the alliance with Nixon, why it seemed the mob was basically allowed to take over. I thought it was a pretty fantastic portrait of history.
― Frederik B, Friday, 29 November 2019 12:55 (four years ago) link
From what I can recall none of that stuff was elaborated on in the book. It certainly adds to the sense of a world of hidden agreements and associations - one which Sheeran and the rest of the "soldiers" and made guys would never be privy to. Certainly creepy.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 29 November 2019 14:37 (four years ago) link
Gathering the family around the TV to watch The Irishman and then secretly playing John Travolta’s GOTTI and seeing how long it takes everyone to figure it out— Jason O. Gilbert (@gilbertjasono) November 29, 2019
― mh, Friday, 29 November 2019 18:30 (four years ago) link
I Heard You Use E-Meters
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 November 2019 21:22 (four years ago) link
de-aged deniro, meant to sheeran at 30 or so, assaulting the grocer with all the grace and ferocity of 2019 robert deniro is a bit of unintentional humour
― #FBPIRA (jim in vancouver), Friday, 29 November 2019 21:32 (four years ago) link
yeah that was... rough
― A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 29 November 2019 21:52 (four years ago) link
I’m pretty sure it’s good actually
― For how much longer do we tolerate trashed purdah? (wins), Friday, 29 November 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link
The de-aging looks weird at first but I got used to it after a couple of scenes, probably cause Scorsese is so stylised anyway. There’s something v effective about the obvious bleeding through the bandage I think this guy I follow put it really well
You can tell they are old in the irishman, but it works. The weight of their future is pressing upon them from their youth, making them stiff and sore, faces blanched into ageless putty by their actions— bobsy (@bobsymindless) November 29, 2019
― For how much longer do we tolerate trashed purdah? (wins), Friday, 29 November 2019 22:18 (four years ago) link
The only time it was really a problem for me was the scene where young Pesci first meets deniro at that gas station. No idea what age he was supposed to be but Pesci looked truly horrifying, like he was wearing a melted Halloween mask or something.I heard someone saying that it worked for them bc the movie is framed as Franks reminiscences, and you often remember your younger self and your friends as just being the present versions of you in the past, which is kind of an interesting take imo even I don’t really subscribe to it myself.
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Friday, 29 November 2019 22:32 (four years ago) link
Will see this soon, but still astounded it cost $200 million. If Marty is spending that much on this sort of story and still complaining about Marvel movies he's kind of missing the point. I heard Edward Norton on the radio more or less boasting that "Motherless Brooklyn" "only" cost $27 million or so and "small" movies that "cheap" (scarequotes mine) are getting harder and harder to make.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 November 2019 22:39 (four years ago) link
http://www.tasteofcinema.com/2018/the-10-best-micro-budget-movies-of-the-21st-century/
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 29 November 2019 22:43 (four years ago) link
No marvel chat itt for Christ’s sake
― For how much longer do we tolerate trashed purdah? (wins), Friday, 29 November 2019 22:44 (four years ago) link
DeNiro pretty convincingly portrayed someone younger in Goodfellas, I thought his first appearance when “he couldn’t have been more than 28 or 29 at the time” was believable, they just did a little dark hair color and some makeup and it worked esp if you consider ppl from that era looked older and DeNiro up to age fifty still had a certain lithe vitality. They only had to age him forward a few years for that film too.
― omar little, Friday, 29 November 2019 22:44 (four years ago) link
tangerine, tiny furniture, blair witch, primer, paranormal activity, mariachi and resolution and all come to mind as great under-100k-budget filmsfuck kevin smith btw
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 29 November 2019 22:51 (four years ago) link
hm, little clicking around suggests moonlight was made for 1.5 million and was already a huge success pre-oscars with 23 million... but then went on to make 65 million post oscars, which makes it the biggest ROI in modern theater historyBUT that's still not even half of what Doctor Strange made!
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 29 November 2019 22:56 (four years ago) link
Will see this soon, but still astounded it cost $200 million.
― A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 30 November 2019 00:15 (four years ago) link
I thought Blair Witch was the ROI record holder?
― WmC, Saturday, 30 November 2019 00:18 (four years ago) link
i guess i'm thinking of modern theater history as "since turn of the century" but yes, Blair Witch was a monster. those guys never quite were able to do it again huh?
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 30 November 2019 00:39 (four years ago) link
Will see this soon, but still astounded it cost $200 million. If Marty is spending that much on this sort of story and still complaining about Marvel movies he's kind of missing the point. this literally had nothing to do with what he was saying about Marvel films
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 30 November 2019 01:21 (four years ago) link
hm, little clicking around suggests moonlight was made for 1.5 million and was already a huge success pre-oscars with 23 million... but then went on to make 65 million post oscars, which makes it the biggest ROI in modern theater history
Check out Magic Mike
― ... (Eazy), Saturday, 30 November 2019 01:30 (four years ago) link
xpost Oh, I know, I just meant if you're making a "real cinema" (or whatever) gangster movie, and telling that story takes $200 million, then you're really no better than blockbusters that cost as much, especially when you're leaning so hard on digital effects. Back to that Edward Norton interview I referenced, he specifically cited the cost of this movie and "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" (which was maybe $100 million?) as what "little movies" like his are up against.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 30 November 2019 02:43 (four years ago) link
xpost Oh, I know, I just meant if you're making a "real cinema" (or whatever) gangster movie, and telling that story takes $200 million, then you're really no better than blockbusters that cost as much, especially when you're leaning so hard on digital effects.
What
― flappy bird, Saturday, 30 November 2019 02:53 (four years ago) link
I guess I'm not making myself clear. I think $200 is a lot of money, a blockbuster budget. And a lot of that money went to digital effects in this, right? So when you're spending huge amounts of cash and leaning on huge amounts of FX, then it seems (and yeah, no need to go into this again) pretty rich to complain that those other multi-hundred million dollar movies packed with digital FX are not to your liking.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 30 November 2019 02:58 (four years ago) link
200200 dollah200 dollah blockbuster
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Saturday, 30 November 2019 03:12 (four years ago) link
Scorcese complains that the superhero movies crowd out the entire marketplace to the detriment of theatrical cinema - don't think many are really arguing about that part. But maybe it does weaken his argument a little, having to go to Netflix of all people for unlimited money to "waste" on a low-key historical drama that probably could've been made for 25% of that. At least, it might if Irishman wasn't good...
― Nhex, Saturday, 30 November 2019 03:23 (four years ago) link
The CGI in The Irishman and the CGI in any given Marvel movie are not the same at all—in terms of "leaning" on CGI, take all the CGI out of The Irishman and Guardians of the Galaxy and see which movie loses less. they're just trying to make older actors look younger, which is still really hard and really expensive, it costs a lot for a subtle effect that just barely works imo.
― flappy bird, Saturday, 30 November 2019 03:27 (four years ago) link
Barely related: there was a quote from some director who was asked, years and years ago at this point, about their favorite use of CG, and the director cited Ang Lee's "Sense and Sensibility." The interviewer was of course a little confused, and the director noted one scene of a storm rolling in that apparently used computer effects, the argument being (at least at the time) that CG should be used to create things out of your control, but that the best CG does not call attention to itself and, in fact, may be best when totally unnoticed.
Anyway, distant point being, were it not for the parade of Marvel movies et al. Marty would likely have not had access to a technology he was happy to spend tens of millions on. Maybe he should just think of those movies as the world's most expensive and successful experiments in R&D.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 30 November 2019 04:01 (four years ago) link
Will see this soon, but still astounded it cost $200 million. If Marty is spending that much on this sort of story and still complaining about Marvel movies he's kind of missing the point. I heard Edward Norton on the radio more or less boasting that "Motherless Brooklyn" "only" cost $27 million or so and "small" movies that "cheap" (scarequotes mi
― circa1916, Saturday, 30 November 2019 05:37 (four years ago) link
I really liked this anyway. The CG stuff only stuck out in the beginning. Got used to it fast. Seemed totally inconsequential to me.Seemed very much about aging out, losing it, and dying on all levels. A lot of Old Man Rambling moments, both in the acting and writing, but made sense and seemed intentional given the context. All the clunky elements worked in its favor.
― circa1916, Saturday, 30 November 2019 05:58 (four years ago) link
i've gotten about an hour into it, going to finish tomorrow
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Saturday, 30 November 2019 06:04 (four years ago) link
I dont like the de-aging. Film is too much about images to stuff your movie with an odd visual effect on your stars faces.
The final half hour is good cinema. The rest is overly long. I didnt feel the Hoffa-Sheeran relationship enough, you have so long a film to develop these things, you think youd do that. It's the emotional core of the movie, this man killed one of his closest friends and lost his daughter and sold his soul in doing so. it doesnt quite connect for me.
― #FBPIRA (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 30 November 2019 06:39 (four years ago) link
me neither
― flappy bird, Saturday, 30 November 2019 07:33 (four years ago) link
i keep coming back to the scene where frank is explaining how you want a clean weapon you can throw away once the job is done, and thinking about how frank himself is used as a weapon, getting more and more tarnished each time, until eventually there’s no-one left to throw him awayde niro does a really good job of playing frank as the guy who’s just not quite smart enough to grasp what’s going on until it’s too late
― A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 30 November 2019 08:12 (four years ago) link
I found Dominick Lombardozzi's fat suit way more disturbing than digital De Niro.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKn8WNlXsAMRzSQ.jpg
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Saturday, 30 November 2019 13:35 (four years ago) link