US Politics, November 2019: These people are truly sick.

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impossible, I heard it went from 75% to 25%

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link

GO JUDGE KETANJI BROWN JACKSON (Harvard ‘92)

brigadier pudding (DJP), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 16:13 (four years ago) link

The Politico/Morning Consult poll showed 44 percent of independent voters backed the impeachment inquiry, a 4-point jump from last week’s poll.

not sure you can call a 4-point move a "jump", especially with margin of error. plus, the overall line remained the same

Overall, registered voters backed the impeachment inquiry at the same rate as last week at 48 percent, but opposition to the investigation slipped by two points to 43 percent.

which lines up with the new CNN poll, which found almost no movement from before the hearings. the TPM take:

Here are a few interesting data points from the just-released CNN poll on impeachment. The topline is pretty bad for the President. 50% of Americans believe the President should be impeached and removed from office. 43% disagree. Slightly more encouraging for the President is that those are the exact numbers CNN/SSRS found in mid-late October, prior to the public hearings. The President’s approval stands at 42% with 54% disapproving. In other words, the numbers are bad. But the hearings didn’t move anyone. We can also note that his approval is basically identical to the number who oppose removal from office. It’s like perfect polarization. You either support President Trump or you think he should be removed from office.

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 16:16 (four years ago) link

were there impeachment polls for obama? i'm kind of assuming that at any given point in time, at least 20% of the country would have supported impeaching him.

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 16:17 (four years ago) link

Pretty sure 79% supported impeaching him, 120% supported supporting him, 84% supported giving him a third term, 32% supported erasing his two terms, 27% supported giving him a stamp and 21% supported eliminating the post office. Iirc, it's been a while

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 16:22 (four years ago) link

from July 2014:

According to a CNN/ORC International poll released Friday, 33 percent of Americans think the president should be impeached and removed from office, compared with 65 percent who say they don’t support impeachment. Fifty-seven percent of Republicans say they support impeaching Obama, compared with just 35 percent of independent voters and 13 percent of Democrats.

https://www.politico.com/story/2014/07/poll-impeach-obama-support-33-percent-109369

33% thought obama should be impeached in 2014 (for...Benghazi?). 50% think trump should be impeached now. and i would guess that there's very little overlap between the two.

also just want to highlight this finding from the 2014 poll for sad lols: "When asked about when Congress should attempt to impeach a president, 79 percent of Americans said it should be used only if there is evidence of a serious crime — such as treason or bribery. Eighteen percent said impeachment could appropriately be used to registered dissatisfaction with White House policies."

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link

the formatting on my ilx posts are starting to resemble deranged angry emails from that guy in the office who doesn't know how to use email but is angry. sorry

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link

This is the president of the United States....wondering why the 100th anniversary of women’s suffrage....wasn’t commemorated...a long time ago...? https://t.co/uIdnAyziJQ

— Dan Zak (@MrDanZak) November 26, 2019

brain worms in overdrive today

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 16:27 (four years ago) link

It is a bit weird that we kept postponing the centennial. Particularly that we even did twice more during the tenure of President Git-r-Dun.

War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 16:31 (four years ago) link

This, folks. This is what happens when you fail to shut down a blowhard with a hearty 'STFU' every time they start incoherently bloviating.

War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link

we regret to inform the human population that women's suffrage centennial week has once again been indefinitely delayed

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 17:01 (four years ago) link

xpost Seriously. I doubt he'll participate in any debates, but if he does it will be the first time in years he'll be forced to stop talking.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 17:01 (four years ago) link

Stop talking *and* listen, actually.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 17:01 (four years ago) link

The Politico/Morning Consult poll showed 44 percent of independent voters backed the impeachment inquiry, a 4-point jump from last week’s poll.

not sure you can call a 4-point move a "jump", especially with margin of error. plus, the overall line remained the same

In two polls a week apart, four points is fairly significant movement. It could be an outlier to your point, but I would be more suspect of a poll reflecting an eight point jump in a week becay people don't pivot quite that fast.

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 17:04 (four years ago) link

THE PRESIDENT: Well, thank you. Great job. Anybody? Anybody? Final — final — Kellyanne? How about Kellyanne?

MS. CONWAY: Mr. President, thank you —

THE PRESIDENT: She’s always very laidback and shy. (Laughter.)

MS. CONWAY: I’ll be laidback. Thank you. I think the women speak for itself. And thank you for your leadership. We really look forward to continuing the celebration of the Centennial of the Women’s Right to Vote. We go right up into next August of 2020. But it’s even hard to imagine it’s only been 100 years. And since we still have had — never had any female President, perhaps we’ll have that in our lifetime, but your victory kept that job open. So we’re here to celebrate —

THE PRESIDENT: In five years, right? (Laughter.) Five years.

PARTICIPANT: Or longer. (Laughter.)

MS. NANCE: Yeah, we can wait.

jmm, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 17:05 (four years ago) link

"but the dinner's on the table now!"

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 17:07 (four years ago) link

25% thought 'there oughta be a law'

j., Tuesday, 26 November 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link

You cannot make this sh*t up.

After being presented with the fact that a Pentagon official just told @ABC that Conan is FEMALE, a White House official tells us that the WH is still standing by its story that Conan is MALE (as Trump said). The official would not go on the record. https://t.co/XR63R0SD1l

— Terry Moran (@TerryMoran) November 26, 2019

I know its easy to laugh at dumb shit like this but the way everyone in this administration just needlessly chips away at reality is seriously evil

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link

jfc that's insane. "Our dear leader cannot be wrong, so the dog is now male."

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:04 (four years ago) link

grabs dog

flips dog over

takes out Sharpie

they see me lollin' (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:08 (four years ago) link

hopefully conan will bite yellow boys nuts off and they can discuss gender on more equal footing/pawing

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link

As President Trump’s White House battles impeachment, he turned to a familiar face last week: Mark Penn, one of President Bill Clinton’s top strategists.

Penn came to the Oval Office for more than an hour last Monday, three people familiar with the meeting said, and brought polling data and impeachment advice for the president. Penn reassured Trump that he wouldn’t be removed from office, according to people familiar with the meeting, and encouraged him to travel the country like Clinton did when he was fighting impeachment over 20 years ago, officials said.

Vice President Pence and counselor Kellyanne Conway were also present for the meeting, where Diet Cokes were served.

berniebros tho

mookieproof, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link

encouraged him to travel the country

getting booed vociferously by any crowd that was not assembled solely for the purpose of Trump adulation

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link

would love to see him actually talk to people in public, my god can you imagine

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link

Fucking teetotalers, man.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link

Mark Penn, huh? Bob Shrum accidentally leave his phone off?

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 19:31 (four years ago) link

Would loooooooove to see him talk to a large assemblage of people without the presence of anyone to respond to his inevitable entreaties of 'GET HIM OUT, GET HIM OUT'. Like the notion of him not being able to instantaneously eradicate face-to-face dissent or criticism...how would he even function?

War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link

i would love to seem him collapse into a pile of dust, vanishing as mysteriously and strangely as he came

treeship., Tuesday, 26 November 2019 19:37 (four years ago) link

be careful - don't accidentally create a new religion for his followers

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 19:51 (four years ago) link

I used to think all Lions were boys and all Tigers were girls. I was four and not president of the United States.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link

during the second resurrection, there were some that refused to understand the truth of Lord Trump, Christ reborn. they crept up from the deep state and allied with their treasonous lovers, the fake news media. but Lord Trump in his infinite mercy chose not to destroy them on the spot, and instead collapsed into a pile of dust, vanishing as mysteriously and strangely as he came.

Saint Stephen Miller XIV
832 AT

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 20:15 (four years ago) link

A little anecdote re: this Gallagher asshole. I was in an airport a couple of weeks ago chatting to a young Navy kid from Texas heading home for leave. He told me he enlisted to help with college, iirc, and joked that some of his fellow Navy recruits made fun of him for enlisting to help pay for education. "Better to say that you enlisted to pay for education than to say you enlisted because you wanted to kill people, right?" I asked (probably not those exact words, but close.) "Oh, man," he said (I paraphrase), "those are the Navy SEALS. They're crazy." He said you could pick them out on base, and that you would give them a real wide berth, because they were huge and mean.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 23:30 (four years ago) link

Awesome stuff. Glad my country spend $640 billion per year on the military.

treeship., Tuesday, 26 November 2019 23:51 (four years ago) link

because they were huge and mean

and proud of it, too

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 00:43 (four years ago) link

Military warriors who are big and mean and proud of it?!?? Someone alert Ronan Farrow

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 00:59 (four years ago) link

i only know one seal, and i knew him well before he was one. he is none of things above, tho he is tallish.

and i approve this message (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 02:49 (four years ago) link

to the credit of the seals, they were the ones who turned over gallagher. he isn't representative of the seals. he reflects the values of trump.

treeship., Wednesday, 27 November 2019 03:01 (four years ago) link

I think the kid I was talking to, in his own way, was trying to convey that they are an entirely different class of soldier from the average recruit.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 04:51 (four years ago) link

I have gotten to know a 50ish retired seal over the past few years and he is basically my hero. Such a cool guy, conservative politics and Catholicism aside. I tell my
son don’t even think about dating his daughter - dude will snap you in two in a second if he feels so inclined.

tobo73, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 11:44 (four years ago) link

sounds like a fuckin peach

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 12:19 (four years ago) link

good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 12:28 (four years ago) link

where's the tax returns?

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 13:17 (four years ago) link

where's the tax returns?

― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, November 27, 2019 8:17 AM (twenty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

At least something is right in this world.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link

lol @ capn save-a-SEALs in this thread wtf

adam, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link

People Democrats Love

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/11nzKwOCtU

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 27, 2019

i just

gbx, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link

is that Rutger Hauer

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link


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