It sounds like a guy muttering voice memos into his iPhone in a bathroom
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 14:59 (four years ago) link
British History Podcast guy went back and re-recorded his first 50 or so out of sheer embarrassment. I re-did my first one because I found some new recordings, not doing any others barring some amazing discoveries, not sure what I make is even a podcast as most people understand it anyway.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link
Revolutions is finally at the Russian Revolution. They are at episode 23, and introduced Lenin last episode. It's kinda hilarious.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 15:14 (four years ago) link
The criticism I've heard of Dan Carlin is that he represents old-school great man theory history, not sure how fair this is, but he's certainly a big fan of Churchill.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, November 26, 2019 9:24 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
First 1/3 of the first part of the WWI ep was certainly not very materialist in its analysis, although I wouldn't exactly say it was "great man theory" either -- if anything he seems enamored with the idea of random chance setting massive forces in motion (which, tbf, is kind of a standard way to read the start of WWI).
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link
Yeah, I didn't find it to be true on the whole, that's the one I've listened to as well, but would like the judgement of an actual historian
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 16:14 (four years ago) link
im not a historian but my undergrad degree was in history and dan carlin isn't really intellectually rigorous enough for me
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link
i also just don't like his voice
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:06 (four years ago) link
his padded out jibber jabbering is that lacking in content you could literally listen to half an hour without actually learning anything on a subject.
― calzino, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link
Mike Duncan hits the right middle ground of tone for me - conversational, direct but not boring.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link
I would bet those early eps were him just talking into whatever microphone was built into his laptop, though, it's true.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link
The Age of Napoleon guy is good too, and sticks to a similar length/pace
― Simon H., Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link
age of napoleon is very good
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:36 (four years ago) link
Wouldn't some of you lot get so much more from listening to classic audio books. Idk like C V Wedgwood.'s 30 years war. Barbara can't remember her surname' s magisterial Guns of August. I've tried to listen to him again earlier and he seems even more pointless than the first time I tried.
― calzino, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link
I'm against audiobooks for dumb reasons. i only listen to podcasts while cooking or walking alone
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:51 (four years ago) link
I like the 30-minute chunk format, I find it really digestible and I feel like I actually retain some of the info
― Simon H., Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link
(another reason I never got into Dan Carlin, aside from his obnoxious voice and aesthetic)
― Simon H., Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link
Audiobook history sounds good, but where to get these from? Audible is £8 per book, this is too much to justify when I will listen to it once only and the same book is usually just a couple of quid to actually buy.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link
Podcasts are written a very different way, I think. The conversational tone of the best podcasts is very appealing. Audiobooks take up all my concentration when I'm listening, I can't bike if I listen to an audiobook for instance. So I just read books instead. While I listen to music.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link
Yeah, podcasts and books are apples and oranges. The presentation of a podcast, if successful, is much more geared toward aural reception. I can't imagine trying to listen to someone narrate most of the history books I read.
― War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link
I zone out on audiobooks and miss multiple 'pages,' for some reason that doesn't happen with podcasts.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link
Plus some of these things (Mike Duncan joints, History of England) are pulling from such a wide range of sources that they are, from a certain perspective, almost more useful than reading a single book. That said, my engagement with them is mostly as a supplement to stuff I'm actually reading.
― War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link
Yeah. As someone who even sometimes finds myself missing key moments in podcasts, I would really struggle with an audiobook while driving.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link
Lol driving and audiobooking does sound quite hazardous tbf
― calzino, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 19:20 (four years ago) link
I've enjoyed audiobooking stuff I've read before, Paradoxes of Power and Bloodlands are books that I felt I had enhanced experiences with taking them in both ways. Some audiobooks are worth paying £8 for if they have a decent reader, but others aren't worth shit. But I nab them from torrent sites so can't complain.
― calzino, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link
Just out of curiosity like... where can you torrent audiobooks? tpb has fuck all of any interest
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link
all the formerly dependable stalwart torrent sites all seem to be dying in recent years I'm afraid. I used to use thegeeks.bz but lost my password and got locked out - i'll get back to you on that if I get back in and get an invite if you want. z00qle.com might be worth a try.
― calzino, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 20:57 (four years ago) link
shit, managed to get back into thegeeks but have zero invites
― calzino, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 21:01 (four years ago) link
lol, password was 1234abcd
― calzino, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 21:04 (four years ago) link
dem0n01d.is
is still online, that used have some brilliant and rare audiobook torrents. But I haven't used it in ages and don't know if it has the same cache of torrents in it's current form. but deffo worth a try.
― calzino, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 21:20 (four years ago) link
A LibGen for audiobooks would be amazing. Alas, I fear it's mostly newsgroups where it's at these days? I'm not on there. Slsk is a 50/50 success rate though.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 21:31 (four years ago) link
― calzino
see this is kind of what i like about his podcasts - they're very long and you don't have to actually pay attention to anything he's saying. i like the sort of podcasts where i can just zone out for half an hour and not suddenly wake up and say "wait, what did i miss?". because if there's anything he's going to actually say he will SAY IT VERY LOUDLY and multiple times, i kind of need that with podcasts
the ira glass imitators may have good shows but that is a thing i just cannot do, i've tried, no. i'll do mid-atlantic accent guy or trailer voiceover guy, that's it.
― Agnes Motörhead (rushomancy), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 22:03 (four years ago) link
I'm going to have another try at listening to him when I'm cooking or something!
― calzino, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 22:16 (four years ago) link
I'm well into pt III of the Dan Carlin WWI series now and I love it. Even the basic, cliched sort of themes and concepts about WWI that I've received a dozen ways through school and popular culture are much more vivid for me now.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 15:50 (four years ago) link
the last straw for me (and I'm never going to listen to this guy again!) was when he said something like " this Kaiser Wilhelm guy ..you know.. he didn't get the job on merit .. you know"
― calzino, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link
they're very long and you don't have to actually pay attention to anything he's saying
i hear this a lot re:podcasts, "i like it bc i dont have to pay attention to it", which i honestly can never understand. like if you're looking for soothing non-informational audio sounds that help time pass, why not try music? Fewer ads for mattresses and mail-order underpants.
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link
too many notes though
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link
I guess you could listen without paying attention to the history podcasts I favor in the same way one might in a college history class. Meaning that you're not likely to learn much but, hey man, that lecture hall sure is a great place for a leisurely snooze.
― the perfect equilibrium of dipability and fun (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 17:23 (four years ago) link
It feels weird to listen to music before lunch. When I was driving a lot before podcasts I had to listen to Diane Rehm and sports talk radio in the morning.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link
I sleep better to talking than I do to music. Don't know why. And then I have a half-heard podcast in my library, and I'll relisten to it again while I'm out walking/biking/whatever.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link
Also, I'll listen to a half hour podcast in bits and pieces, and I'll relisten to it if I feel like I'm missing something. It's malleable, not like a book, where I really feel like I have to get into it.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link
Dan Carlin interrupted by underwear ads would be something
"Those who have not experienced it can hardly fathom the STENCH alone that emitted from these trenches -- rivers of human waste and filth, piles of rotting corpses. Too bad those troops didn't have Mack Weldon underwear -- it's protected by a silver-infused antimicrobial lining that prevents odor."
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:04 (four years ago) link
I have two listening modes for podcasts, stuff to listen to and stuff to sleep to. one show is both, when a new episode comes out I'll give the previous one a proper re-listen then go to sleep to the new episode.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 5 December 2019 00:32 (four years ago) link
massive wowwwww @ putting on podcasts and not listening to them
― brimstead, Thursday, 5 December 2019 01:07 (four years ago) link
idk how do you stop your internal monologue from overwhelming you dude
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Thursday, 5 December 2019 01:18 (four years ago) link
There’s nothing quite like podcasts for that
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Thursday, 5 December 2019 01:19 (four years ago) link
where can you torrent audiobooks
― полезный инструмент (Sanpaku), Thursday, 5 December 2019 01:28 (four years ago) link
all I find there is links to Amazon/audible - not torrents.
― calzino, Thursday, 5 December 2019 02:25 (four years ago) link
The self is lava; podcasts are the rocks we leap on to avoid contact. Actually listening to them is a bonus.
― Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Thursday, 5 December 2019 08:16 (four years ago) link
silby otm, i have podcasts about rugby that are for sleeptime, its great
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Thursday, 5 December 2019 09:41 (four years ago) link
when you get past the iffy product placement that Revolutions podcast is very good.
― calzino, Thursday, 5 December 2019 11:04 (four years ago) link