Damon Lindelof's Watchmen

I noticed that cause it was pretty lackluster in the earlier eps

Dunno, the fights in American Hero Story have been consistently hilarious. But yeah, these ones were legitimately good.

Oh yeah, I specifically meant the "real-life" fights; the brief one at the trailer park was especially glaring. The AHS stuff is perfect.

Agreed on the fight choreography, it's really good and almost makes me forget he can't possibly see very well and someone can grab that noose around his neck any time. Blake had the right idea opting for armor and guns

You're probably right that Reeves wanted her to take the pills, he does say she needs to experience something and not hear it

Esther Rosenfield on Twitter has the most likely/coherent theory on where this is all headed for the curious.

that theory seems... eminently plausible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkDqxCbyGVk

snake?!? SNAAAAAAAAKE

can't find what you're refering to in the Esther Rosenfield twitter; the Lynch stuff?

oh wait I found it.

telegraphed by the relatively small cast but as soon as I heard “it’s someone in Tulsa” I figured it out, and oh no

withholding judgment till next week but props to the Reddit sleuths who guessed this many weeks ago

come for the sleuthery, stay for the Excalibur joke

on one hand the focus on Vietnam is just what I was hoping for, otoh there are a lot of ways this could go very wrong. I'd be curious to hear some knowledgable takes on the semi-"Americanized" Saigon depicted

telegraphed by the relatively small cast but as soon as I heard “it’s someone in Tulsa” I figured it out, and oh no

― mh, Sunday, December 1, 2019 10:10 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah, as soon as Trieu said this, I said to my wife, "The Law of Economy of Characters says that it's X."

Immediately thought about how much Sally was lusting after Cal.

Sorry. Laurie.

Show is about race in America = there is a literal elephant in the room

never forgets

Ok, I love how audacious this show is. On the other hand, let's start wrapping up some loose ends before the last 15 minutes of the series.

I mean there aren't *that* many loose ends - the Millenium Clock, Veidt, and the inevitable climactic showdown with the 7th Kavalry, and of course finding out the ballad of Angela/Jon. But that's not so much for two episodes.

And lube guy!

Kinda hoping he tries to intervene in 9 and dies horribly

I hadn't realized till I actually put the soundtracks on that Reznor/Ross were doing all that instrumental jazz as well; neat!

I mean there aren't *that* many loose ends - the Millenium Clock, Veidt, and the inevitable climactic showdown with the 7th Kavalry, and of course finding out the ballad of Angela/Jon. But that's not so much for two episodes.

Respectfully, I disagree rather strongly: I think that is an awful lot to explain in two hours without it feeling rushed.

Lindeloff wrapped up his last series in a monologue and it was awesome

Just from the measly Spotify credits, it looks like this guy is involved in the jazz tracks:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Beasley_(musician)

And this guy performed the silent movie piano I believe:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Garson

Reznor/Ross score has been really great. Even though it was an instrumental of “Life on Mars” I couldn’t help but think the “take a look at the lawman beating up the wrong guy” had an additional draw to it’s cover selection.

I just tweeted asking when trent's gonna work Pop Will Eat Itself into the soundtrack.

I suspect his former signee and fellow score pro would block any usage.

soundtrack is realll good

also: does everything need to be wrapped up? do we know that this is a one-and-done series, or will there be another season?

Lindelof has said it was written as one-and-done but that doesn't necessarily mean it'll be tidy.

“We want to see how it's received by you guys," he said. "If the show comes out there and the conversation surrounding the show suggests you're hungry for more, we'll certainly take that into consideration.”

That sounds like there will be more than one season.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/watchmen-may-end-one-season-damon-lindelof-1245569

Lindelof also said he may hand the show off to a different show runner

He's hoping the curse will migrate to a different target.

he could do a leftovers thing where each season is essentially a hard reset

is that...a spoiler?

nah

not really
they just changed the setting each season and introduced new characters

ah ok

also: does everything need to be wrapped up? do we know that this is a one-and-done series, or will there be another season?

I'm not looking for a neat bow on everything, more just don't pull a GoT and cram two seasons' worth of story into two episodes.

It hope this chapter of the story basically wraps up, with some questions left open-ended and DL comes back in 5 or 6 years with The Watchmen we need then.
No rush.

In the interim - 5 years of deep Lube Guy origin story.

There are so many things that have to get resolved or at least addressed in the next two eps – why Trieu couldn't or didn't warn Angela long beforehand that Manhattan was a target, for example – that it's hardly worth speculating about them (Lindelof has said that the audience should be feeling 'panic' at this point but all will get sorted out) ...

But the Veidt scene this week bugged me, for not advancing that storyline at all that I could see. We doubled down on his contempt for the environment and the clones, we learned again that time passes glacially (the trial took an entire year) and that he's frustrated by the time but also resigned to endure it, it's reinforced again that he is the guy behind the squid, we discover again that the only rule for this environment is that he and the clones can't leave. (Given that, the only thing he has to work with is the stupidity of the jailers, so he must be conning them to some degree.) We may find out that he's inside his own statue carbonite-style being fed invented, not experienced, memories, or that he really is on Europa in the future or in the past and that he's returned via meteorite, but this week didn't get any closer to any of that or move the ball appreciably

So is Trieu busting him out? Or keeping him in? Is Veidt her dad, or the Comedian?

"We may find out that he's inside his own statue carbonite-style being fed invented, not experienced, memories" this is my wife's theory

ohhhhhhhhh

curious too about whatever crashed into the farmfield that trieu needed ownership of the land to claim