Damon Lindelof's Watchmen

the figure you cited of 700k who watched the latest episode of watchmen is the people who watched that show broadcast on hbo at that time

only one of the letters in VOSDAL stands for "live"

VOSDAL stands for Viewing On Same Day As Live. VOSDAL includes timeshift viewing that occurs on the same day as the original broadcast. This is included in the overnight files released at 9.30am the following day. For example, if a film starts at 5.30pm and is recorded for viewing later the same evening, say 9.00pm, this viewing is captured and reported in the overnight file published the following day.

yeah, so it counts people who tivo'd it

yep, and streamed via TV

(but ratings are best measured by comparison to other programmes, and to themselves week by week, rather than in raw numbers. which is why I looked up its position relative to other Sunday night US cable programming.)

Re Dan, the story is that he along with Laurie did heroic things (during which their relationship fell apart, due to her being haunted by her erotic Manhattan fascination) until they thwarted McVeigh in Oklahoma City but were apprehended – Laurie cut a deal, but Dan, thinking about his old buddy, got on a high horse and went to federal prison rather than compromise. In Laurie's conversation with the Senator he dangles the possibility of getting Dan out with a pardon were he to become President

Fairly underwhelmed by this episode, not because I didn't enjoy it or that it wasn't well-made, but because so much of it was predictable (at least to someone who ♫ should really just relax ♫ regarding the show), hypnosis being the weapon of choice aside. I was hoping the flashbacks would give us some bits about the Trieu deal. I'm glad the reception seems really positive, though, and retconning a character who was definitely an undeveloped cypher in the original is a great concept

Unclear why Reeves needs Nostalgia – it's not like his memories aren't searing. Is the only reason that the pills exist is so we can do Eternal Sunshine flashbacks? (Also, if you can buy hypnosis Maglites over the counter at Ace Hardware we are all fucked)

There are a whole lot of spinning plates that need to come back down in three episodes, looking forward to it

Oh man I don’t know why I thought there were 12 eps to this thing. I figured we were halfway in and this was the perfect episode to me in that context. Now I just feel like the rest of it will be a hurried mess.

Xpost I thought Reeves wanted Angela to take the Nostalgia, as Trieu was making her own daughter suffer her memories

the fight choreography in the latest (very good) episode was pretty remarkable

I noticed that cause it was pretty lackluster in the earlier eps

Dunno, the fights in American Hero Story have been consistently hilarious. But yeah, these ones were legitimately good.

Oh yeah, I specifically meant the "real-life" fights; the brief one at the trailer park was especially glaring. The AHS stuff is perfect.

Agreed on the fight choreography, it's really good and almost makes me forget he can't possibly see very well and someone can grab that noose around his neck any time. Blake had the right idea opting for armor and guns

You're probably right that Reeves wanted her to take the pills, he does say she needs to experience something and not hear it

Esther Rosenfield on Twitter has the most likely/coherent theory on where this is all headed for the curious.

that theory seems... eminently plausible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkDqxCbyGVk

snake?!? SNAAAAAAAAKE

can't find what you're refering to in the Esther Rosenfield twitter; the Lynch stuff?

oh wait I found it.

telegraphed by the relatively small cast but as soon as I heard “it’s someone in Tulsa” I figured it out, and oh no

withholding judgment till next week but props to the Reddit sleuths who guessed this many weeks ago

come for the sleuthery, stay for the Excalibur joke

on one hand the focus on Vietnam is just what I was hoping for, otoh there are a lot of ways this could go very wrong. I'd be curious to hear some knowledgable takes on the semi-"Americanized" Saigon depicted

telegraphed by the relatively small cast but as soon as I heard “it’s someone in Tulsa” I figured it out, and oh no

― mh, Sunday, December 1, 2019 10:10 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah, as soon as Trieu said this, I said to my wife, "The Law of Economy of Characters says that it's X."

Immediately thought about how much Sally was lusting after Cal.

Sorry. Laurie.

Show is about race in America = there is a literal elephant in the room

never forgets

Ok, I love how audacious this show is. On the other hand, let's start wrapping up some loose ends before the last 15 minutes of the series.

I mean there aren't *that* many loose ends - the Millenium Clock, Veidt, and the inevitable climactic showdown with the 7th Kavalry, and of course finding out the ballad of Angela/Jon. But that's not so much for two episodes.

And lube guy!

Kinda hoping he tries to intervene in 9 and dies horribly

I hadn't realized till I actually put the soundtracks on that Reznor/Ross were doing all that instrumental jazz as well; neat!

I mean there aren't *that* many loose ends - the Millenium Clock, Veidt, and the inevitable climactic showdown with the 7th Kavalry, and of course finding out the ballad of Angela/Jon. But that's not so much for two episodes.

Respectfully, I disagree rather strongly: I think that is an awful lot to explain in two hours without it feeling rushed.

Lindeloff wrapped up his last series in a monologue and it was awesome

Just from the measly Spotify credits, it looks like this guy is involved in the jazz tracks:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Beasley_(musician)

And this guy performed the silent movie piano I believe:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Garson

Reznor/Ross score has been really great. Even though it was an instrumental of “Life on Mars” I couldn’t help but think the “take a look at the lawman beating up the wrong guy” had an additional draw to it’s cover selection.

I just tweeted asking when trent's gonna work Pop Will Eat Itself into the soundtrack.

I suspect his former signee and fellow score pro would block any usage.

soundtrack is realll good

also: does everything need to be wrapped up? do we know that this is a one-and-done series, or will there be another season?

Lindelof has said it was written as one-and-done but that doesn't necessarily mean it'll be tidy.

“We want to see how it's received by you guys," he said. "If the show comes out there and the conversation surrounding the show suggests you're hungry for more, we'll certainly take that into consideration.”

That sounds like there will be more than one season.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/watchmen-may-end-one-season-damon-lindelof-1245569

Lindelof also said he may hand the show off to a different show runner

He's hoping the curse will migrate to a different target.

he could do a leftovers thing where each season is essentially a hard reset

is that...a spoiler?

nah

not really
they just changed the setting each season and introduced new characters