Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

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when we lived in Ely we had a patch of grass in front of our house but didn't own a mower, also a small hedge next to the garage, but obviously no hedge trimmer. the next door neighbours put rude notes through our door saying "CUT YOUR GRASS NOW" and called the estate agent to demand we trim the hedge. they had a mower and hedge trimmers and lived next door in the end of the terrace, but they wouldn't so much as knock on our door and speak to us in person. 100% sure they are tory voters.
An Indian family living in our old house now, hope the neighbours are profoundly unhappy about it, might go and tell the Indian family that their garage door key opens both garages.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 25 November 2019 10:25 (six years ago)

I use a yahoo.co.uk address for spam needs and usually the main page is full of outrage clickbait for pensioners but today's top story is "Boris Johnson knows he's going to lose the election, that's why the manifesto is so weak". Wonder what the demographic reasoning for that was.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 25 November 2019 10:37 (six years ago)

The potholes thing in the manifesto is making me increasingly cross. As Bush put it this morning, they're "the most visible sign for most Conservative voters of a neglected public realm".

How fucking isolated from the state the country is in do you have to be to rank potholes the highest priority, and how evil a government do you have to be to choose that as your sticking plaster?

stet, Monday, 25 November 2019 10:43 (six years ago)

the country isn't in a state except for important stuff like not damaging my car, there's only the hard done-by comfortable and the undeserving poor who scrounge off them

FBPRieu (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 November 2019 10:50 (six years ago)

even when they can't bring themselves to fully express it, the amount of people in the world who believe deep down that poverty is only caused by personal moral shiftlessness is tremendous, maybe insurmountably so, because it includes plenty of people in some degree of poverty.

FBPRieu (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 November 2019 10:53 (six years ago)

which means "make the country better for (other) people" is never enough of a sell on its own terms. tbf the Labour manifesto goes beyond that but its still tied to it, probably has to be.

FBPRieu (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 November 2019 10:54 (six years ago)

Potholes I'd almost the ultimate "managing decline" policy.

I think this is good to remember if Labour bomb on the 12th. Certainly have almost no problems on where I am at.

The Lib Dem manifesto is also a useful insight into what the Labour Party might have been like if the MPs who led the attempts to get rid of Corbyn had succeeded https://t.co/aYfe4dJUGM

— Ellie Mae O'Hagan 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 (@MissEllieMae) November 25, 2019

xyzzzz__, Monday, 25 November 2019 10:55 (six years ago)

"In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense."

I wonder if. when Nicky Morgan was starting out in her political career, she ever envisaged a path which ended in becoming a mindless conduit to some of the most farcically dishonest electioneering in British history?

A shameful way to bow out.pic.twitter.com/1OSF7sdQWy

— Graham Lithgow (@grahamlithgow) November 25, 2019

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Monday, 25 November 2019 10:57 (six years ago)

Wow.

the pinefox, Monday, 25 November 2019 11:04 (six years ago)

putting out such a thin gruel manifesto could be a strategic error imo. much easier to draw a clear dividing line between “steady as she goes” and “kick the bastards out”

||||||||, Monday, 25 November 2019 11:14 (six years ago)

It was interesting to see how Johnson sets out to deceive in the QT debate (that and the pork barrel politics Fizzles talked about before ("I will sort out your school" etc. Literally buying votes on air is banana republic stuff)). Calling him Trump is lazy, but I also this Orwellian stuff doesn't quite capture it either. I would need to re-watch QT and think it through more carefully but no time right now.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 25 November 2019 11:27 (six years ago)

I was practicing mobile canvassing the other day and spoke to a border control officer while queuing to enter the UK. He volunteered the following: “I don’t trust polls. I trust people. They are not stupid. They will not let the Tories get away with this.” Trust your sources?

— Lea Ypi (@lea_ypi) November 25, 2019

calzino, Monday, 25 November 2019 11:31 (six years ago)

The argument in the kuenssberg article would be poor at undergraduate level: her conclusion (this is about brexit promises) has nothing to do with what she sets up in the first part (very different promises in manifesto) and in fact contradicts the conclusion she seems to be implying up until that point.

I do find her weird BBC stylesheet one sentence paragraphs hypnotically meaningless and it was that that identified the author for me primarily.

plax (ico), Monday, 25 November 2019 11:36 (six years ago)

An FB pal spotted something interesting about the Tory manifesto link that Laura K tweeted yesterday afternoon (which had the dodgiest looking URL so far this campaign):

Not many tweets this afternoon as signal pretty bad here - but here is link to Tory manifesto https://t.co/UwZ14I40WN

— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) November 24, 2019

So the URL in that link is : https://assets-global.website-files.com/5da42e2cae7ebd3f8bde353c/5dda924905da587992a064ba_Conservative%202019%20Manifesto.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1i9FDFkAc9HmE2QRmq4gJl6rehAJPJvzK3gaNOKZch5De7JjSGjw4hqkg

A quick search for the 'whois' information for that site shows it was registered on January 19 in Panama: https://www.whois.com/whois/website-files.com

help yourself to another slice of apple ... crumble (Willl), Monday, 25 November 2019 11:37 (six years ago)

https://www.countbinface.com/manifesto

koogs, Monday, 25 November 2019 11:53 (six years ago)

1. London Bridge to be renamed ‘Phoebe Waller’.

koogs, Monday, 25 November 2019 11:53 (six years ago)

that's not how you write Ross Kemp to be pushed into the pit.

calzino, Monday, 25 November 2019 11:57 (six years ago)

5. Ross Kemp to be the next poet laureate

otm

Apropos of nothing, Ceefax should be brought back imo

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 25 November 2019 11:58 (six years ago)

I’m not sure what’s going on but I like it

Has she registered to vote??... 👀😂

Do it here - it's so easy 👉 https://t.co/C4JFnj6qE1 pic.twitter.com/3yDoFkh0Lx

— Momentum (@PeoplesMomentum) November 24, 2019

||||||||, Monday, 25 November 2019 12:15 (six years ago)

My take on the Conservative manifesto.

- If they win, forget Boris Johnson's talk of tax cuts and get ready for 5 years of Tory tax rises

Five reasons why

— Chris Giles (@ChrisGiles_) November 24, 2019

xyzzzz__, Monday, 25 November 2019 12:22 (six years ago)

Jude is back

FBPRieu (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 November 2019 12:29 (six years ago)

I mean that might be the case. This is a more interesting assessment

What strikes me about the Tory manifesto and its almost complete lack of a political programme is that it’s not so much cover for a hard-right project as Johnson indicating he’s willing to be pushed into whatever circumstances dictate.

— Daniel Trilling (@trillingual) November 25, 2019

xyzzzz__, Monday, 25 November 2019 12:30 (six years ago)

"that" -- the tax rises. More that it points to how easily things will break for everyone and that keeping left post-election is what Labour need to do

xyzzzz__, Monday, 25 November 2019 12:32 (six years ago)

I don't really know what that assets-global.website-files.com thing is all about, just looks like a linkdump kind of thing. it is sorta weird though

467 results in GitHub for various things

https://github.com/search?q=https%3A%2F%2Fassets-global.website-files.com&type=Code

a lot of which look legit, things like data about Wreathed Hornbills

https://assets-global.website-files.com/57dc5ba03bd579bc1ed6eab6/59c118ae314bfc0001fdc751_chicken-2648025_1280-vegan-plant-based.jpg

anvil, Monday, 25 November 2019 12:36 (six years ago)

Yeah there are all sorts of random NFL related links, Italian & Russian pdfs and the like if you google 'site:assets-global.website-files.com'

It just struck me as a weird as hell domain for an official party manifesto to be dropped from?

help yourself to another slice of apple ... crumble (Willl), Monday, 25 November 2019 12:54 (six years ago)

Could it not be some cloud service (certain Tory) ppl use to store documents? Hence the long ass number hash starting every file.

Googling 'brexit', 'Corbyn' w/ the added 'site:assets-global.website-files.com' only hurls up Tory takes on the subject matter.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 25 November 2019 13:00 (six years ago)

Your search - blobby site:assets-global.website-files.com - did not match any documents.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 25 November 2019 13:00 (six years ago)

And here's the most surprising thing - amongst Remain voters, Corbyn's Brexit policy is more popular than revoking Article 50.

Most Remainers support Labour, Remainers prefer Labour's policy, and Corbyn's approval ratings with Remainers are rising. Labour is the party of Remain. pic.twitter.com/KmMtRU5gjr

— Stats for Lefties 🌹 🌹 (@LeftieStats) November 25, 2019

||||||||, Monday, 25 November 2019 14:33 (six years ago)

so Corbyn's very complex and hard to understand (if you are temporarily struck dumb on yr doorstep)ref on a negotiated brexit policy is more popular than the Boris deal or revoke A50.

calzino, Monday, 25 November 2019 14:35 (six years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKOZctXWkAARY7a?format=png&name=small

calzino, Monday, 25 November 2019 14:37 (six years ago)

I’m generally not going to post individual comments for these things but I’m making an exception for this jaw-dropper. pic.twitter.com/o8G8clXUwm

— Bloonface says vote Labour 🌹 (@bloonface) November 25, 2019

xyzzzz__, Monday, 25 November 2019 15:19 (six years ago)

Is that a hilarious parody account?

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Monday, 25 November 2019 15:23 (six years ago)

Well at first I thought so, but who knows what goes on. Like the thread says there have been a few hundred comments from FB Tories on the WASPI business.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 25 November 2019 15:26 (six years ago)

lmao this guys having a mare

Hi Unfcknbelievable 😱
Tories FFS!! The absolute state of them pic.twitter.com/w1M2hPVjAM

— ARTIST TAXI DRIVER (@chunkymark) November 25, 2019

||||||||, Monday, 25 November 2019 15:39 (six years ago)

Corbin!

mark s, Monday, 25 November 2019 15:39 (six years ago)

ending all my posts this way now! corbin!

mark s, Monday, 25 November 2019 15:40 (six years ago)

lol! corbin!

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 25 November 2019 15:41 (six years ago)

Maybe he's from Guernsey.

pomenitul, Monday, 25 November 2019 15:42 (six years ago)

The Twa Corbins.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Monday, 25 November 2019 15:50 (six years ago)

^the pinefox to thread

conrad, Monday, 25 November 2019 16:15 (six years ago)

corbin!

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/de/1b/25/de1b2528d11a446b26e823d36f8903be.jpg

actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 25 November 2019 16:53 (six years ago)

https://cdn.inflatable-zone.com/media/product/2a8/top-quality-tpu-body-zorb-ball-inflatable-zorb-ball-zorbing-ball-95b.jpg

zorbin!

FBPRieu (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 November 2019 16:55 (six years ago)

I liked his Joy Division photos

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 25 November 2019 16:59 (six years ago)

oh the band, sorry I thought you meant...

calzino, Monday, 25 November 2019 17:01 (six years ago)

trust no polls

Westminster Voting Intention:

CON: 41% (-1)
LAB: 34% (+2)
LDM: 13% (=)
BXP: 4% (-1)

Via @ICMResearch, 22-25 Nov.
Changes w/ 15-18 Nov.

— Election Maps UK (@ElectionMapsUK) November 25, 2019

||||||||, Monday, 25 November 2019 17:02 (six years ago)

no that one is good!

calzino, Monday, 25 November 2019 17:03 (six years ago)

I see Sir Richard J Evans is voting Labour (with the caveat that he still hates Corbin)

calzino, Monday, 25 November 2019 17:05 (six years ago)

that's hung parliament territory that one, isn't it?

stet, Monday, 25 November 2019 17:29 (six years ago)

It is. OTOH ALL polls are bad.

Oh look! Its the "Hang Mandela" Tory Party 👀 https://t.co/Fbid4NFl5h

— jewdⒶs // ייִדהודה (@jewdas) November 25, 2019

xyzzzz__, Monday, 25 November 2019 17:58 (six years ago)

there’s only one type of bdsm acceptable to tories

actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 25 November 2019 18:05 (six years ago)


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