Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

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gotta remind ourselves that there's a bunch of possibilities short of "Johnson gets a workable majority" and a bunch of difficulties beyond "Corbyn becomes next Prime Minister"

however bad it gets the primary job is to keep the Labour party on track which means keeping the melts away tbh

FBPRieu (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 November 2019 11:54 (six years ago)

Very much this! Whether we win or lose the end of the road will not be the election outcome.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 November 2019 11:57 (six years ago)

i think generally speaking it's hugely important that the lib dem vote continues to go down the toilet. swinson has been doing an amazing job on this so far and it doesn't look like they'll float up to the top again any time soon. all those remainish voters she's shedding have got to go somewhere and it surely it won't be the tories will it? that is my one source of hope.

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Sunday, 24 November 2019 11:57 (six years ago)

and if everything turns super-bleak there's always the empty satisfaction of Baader-Meinhofing a few fuckers

FBPRieu (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 November 2019 11:57 (six years ago)

swinson has still got three weeks of exposure where she'll really have to put herself out there to stop the rot and i think it'll just make things worse for her tbh as she'll continue to be savaged on her previous voting record

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Sunday, 24 November 2019 11:59 (six years ago)

I have read alternate takes that a resurgent LibDems is good for Labour in challenging the tories in LibDem/Con marginals. And a tanking LibDems is good for Labour in sending more Remainer votes their way. I'd prefer more of the latter because I'd actually hate to see the 2nd ConDem govt of this century even more than a Tory majority govt or one propped up by the DUP again.

calzino, Sunday, 24 November 2019 12:09 (six years ago)

The potholes fund reminds me of John Major's cones hotline, a government without ideas.

fetter, Sunday, 24 November 2019 12:35 (six years ago)

climate election... potholes fund... hmmmm

||||||||, Sunday, 24 November 2019 12:38 (six years ago)

Seriously the sort of cunts who'll think this is a brilliant voteworthy policy would throw a fit if there was talk of throwing £2 billion at public transport

FBPRieu (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 November 2019 12:43 (six years ago)

OTM. Nice bit of balanced coverage by Sky with Dia Chakravarty of the Taxpayers Alliance being confronted by John Rentoul and them both agreeing on absolutely everything, with Rentoul drooling - if vampyres can drool - over the possibility of the Tories getting a 200 seat majority.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 November 2019 12:48 (six years ago)

new polls looking v good for tories and v bad for Labour in scotland and resolutely unshifting for the Labour-Tory gap.

I think the unionist vote in Scotland has hardened into a Unionist vote and try shifting that. A bit of unscientific anecdotage here, my sister used to be a Mod (in the 80s not the 60s, she's not that old, ffs) and in the last few years she's been re-living her youth by buying a scooter and joining a scooter club. As a result she now has lots of ugly bald beer-bellied friends on Facebook (and that's just the women, boom boom) and a lot of them are "Gaun yersel' Boris" types - and, as far as I can see, the thing that unites them is the presence of a Rangers badge here, a Rangers flag there. They hate the SNP and they're not going to vote Labour, so I don't see the Tory vote collapsing in Scotland the way some of us hoped, post-Ruth Davidson.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 November 2019 13:04 (six years ago)

Stephen Bush said the same, can't remember how he drew this conclusion. He probs hasnt got a Glasgow mod sister tho!

calzino, Sunday, 24 November 2019 13:10 (six years ago)

all mod Cons

YouGov to see it (wins), Sunday, 24 November 2019 13:15 (six years ago)

I blame Brexit and Rangers having a good season.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 November 2019 13:18 (six years ago)

the beer bellied sash wearers are only part of the unionist coalition though - suspect they'll leak e.g. well-heeled newton mearns/pollokshields types to the lib dems.

||||||||, Sunday, 24 November 2019 13:37 (six years ago)

the rangers fans probably always voted tory anyhow

||||||||, Sunday, 24 November 2019 13:53 (six years ago)

Don't think that's true tbh. IndyRef shifted a lot of them from Labour.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 November 2019 13:57 (six years ago)

... and Brexit put the cap on it.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 November 2019 13:59 (six years ago)

probably right - indyref did for a lot of the deep roots of the labour party in scotland (certainly in west/central scotland)

||||||||, Sunday, 24 November 2019 14:03 (six years ago)

A visit from star 🐶 ex Westminster Dog of the Year. #RegisterToVote #RealChange pic.twitter.com/LryYMCeXmI

— Tracy Brabin (@TracyBrabin) November 24, 2019

Batley can't fail with a (meltish but very nice person tbf) ex-Corrie star and an adorable chocolate labbie on the campaign trail.

calzino, Sunday, 24 November 2019 15:05 (six years ago)

as if another one of these banged

This man is called Ralph. He is the son of a wealthy duke. Sources tell me a BBC producer forced him to not shave and physically thickened his accent to make him sound working class. I can assure you he does not earn £80K because he does not work. He spends "daddy's money". https://t.co/VnzhSSS84B

— Dr Robert 'Rob' Zands PhD #BeKindOnline (@DrRobertZands) November 21, 2019

||||||||, Sunday, 24 November 2019 15:11 (six years ago)

Is this one of those hilarious parody Twitter accounts?

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 November 2019 15:37 (six years ago)

Tory manifesto promises:

- Voting rights for British expats even after 15 years abroad.
- Boundary changes to equalise constituency sizes.
- Compulsory voter ID.

Votes for rich tax exiles, gerrymandering, voter suppression. Wow you'd do that for us.

calzino, Sunday, 24 November 2019 16:29 (six years ago)

imo gerrymandering is what we should be doing, but on the left

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 November 2019 16:32 (six years ago)

At this really good Italian cafe after an afternoon canvassing in Battersea. Feeling more positive than I thought I would beside one Tory cunt.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 November 2019 16:35 (six years ago)

someone has put a vote conservative banner on a lamppost round the corner from my house. I'm going out later to throw a mud-ball at it.

calzino, Sunday, 24 November 2019 16:40 (six years ago)

trust no polls etc but couple of polls out today are better for the blood pressure

||||||||, Sunday, 24 November 2019 16:43 (six years ago)

there is no way this shower of shit are 19 pts clear, not a chance!

calzino, Sunday, 24 November 2019 16:47 (six years ago)

I blame Brexit and Rangers having a good season.

― 'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 November 2019 bookmarkflaglink

What's the polling in Scotland like?

Tbh if worse came to the worse Johnson if people kicked up a fuss in Glasgow you could see Boris deploying the army to suppress but the Indy movement in Scotland isn't like the one in Spain so I can't see it getting to that.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 November 2019 16:52 (six years ago)

This is the billionaires’ manifesto.

They bought it.

You’ll pay for it. pic.twitter.com/vLhKmdgwh1

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) November 24, 2019

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 November 2019 16:54 (six years ago)

tory nurse pledge unravelled already

||||||||, Sunday, 24 November 2019 17:00 (six years ago)

Just get brexit done so we can move on to the important issues facing our country like fixing potholes

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Sunday, 24 November 2019 17:02 (six years ago)

What's the polling in Scotland like?

Look away now.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1208572/election-2019-scotland-poll-SNP-labour-tories-nicola-sturgeon

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 November 2019 17:09 (six years ago)

Not ever looking away :)

Thanks. Be good to see a few pollsters but yes that's poor.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 November 2019 17:27 (six years ago)

Major boost for Labour as Coldplay's Chris Martin (who lives in the US) says he'll probably vote LibDem
https://t.co/OgJ2eMV8gn

— keith flett (@kmflett) November 24, 2019

calzino, Sunday, 24 November 2019 19:16 (six years ago)

so yellow

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Sunday, 24 November 2019 19:18 (six years ago)

keith flett is the mike giggler of the left

mark s, Sunday, 24 November 2019 19:22 (six years ago)

his line in incessant beards, cricket and chartists talk can get very wearing, but there is much worse than him out there!

calzino, Sunday, 24 November 2019 19:28 (six years ago)

Fan mail from Harold Wilson's press secretary in this week's New Statesman pic.twitter.com/0P5dlp5W8v

— keith flett (@kmflett) November 23, 2019

this was an interesting post, because I didn't know joe haines was still breathing.

calzino, Sunday, 24 November 2019 19:32 (six years ago)

4 people opened the door & said they'd never vote for Corbyn, he'd leave our country defenceless

3 are voting Labour now, and the last said he'll take a proper look at our manifesto

Volunteers going out to tell people our real policies is the best way to counter media lies

— Kieran Glasssmith (@KGlasss) November 24, 2019

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 November 2019 21:19 (six years ago)

Compared to the Labour manifesto, Boris Johnson's plan for the country is a shopping list of promises, not an encyclopaedia of ambitions.

||||||||, Sunday, 24 November 2019 22:07 (six years ago)

And Boris Johnson called this election because he wants to leave the EU at speed.

Whereas Jeremy Corbyn is, after months of Labour evolving its position, offering another referendum.

That is the clear difference between the two big parties this time.

||||||||, Sunday, 24 November 2019 22:08 (six years ago)

guess who

||||||||, Sunday, 24 November 2019 22:08 (six years ago)

Kuenssberg?

plax (ico), Sunday, 24 November 2019 22:12 (six years ago)

bingo
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50540099

||||||||, Sunday, 24 November 2019 22:14 (six years ago)

BBC just showed vox pops with a voter loath to vote Labour because of Corbyn. The voter was a Labour Party member.

Ugh with all this manufacturing consent/dissent delete as applicable.

santa clause four (suzy), Sunday, 24 November 2019 22:14 (six years ago)

... let's not forget the woman who said she liked Boris, she didn't trust him but she liked him ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 November 2019 22:16 (six years ago)

Still, 'appen as like this election could see the end of that red-tinted glasses pie-in-the-sky stuff about how t' Northerners won't vote Tory on pain of death.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 November 2019 22:19 (six years ago)

going door to door telling stupid bastards "don't worry we'll still have nukes" yay politics

FBPRieu (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 November 2019 22:34 (six years ago)

In The North it's like how *forget which dodgy french writer posited* in occupied France there was a sexually masochistic element of submission in some collaborators meek subservience to forces out to absolutely fucking destroy them

calzino, Sunday, 24 November 2019 22:36 (six years ago)


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