Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

that pothole finding thing is a great example of how austerity encourages corrupt/pork barrel politics. no way central government should be doing the crouching and pointing at potholes in the local paper stuff.

I never really have optimism, but if you absolutely accept that Tory scumbags of one form or another will be in govt possibly for decades and even until you die. Then you might start planning for an earlier death!

It's the unreliability of the polls, as was talked on here yesterday and in this twitter thread too.

Trust No Polls. This, categorically, is an outlier, at odds with any other evidence we have. Two million registrations to vote should tell all of us that. What matters in a volatile and low trust environment is the campaign. Keep on keeping on. https://t.co/6H43rlyFBX

— James Meadway (@meadwaj) November 23, 2019

Having said that Survation got it mostly right and if I don't see the numbers shifting then I won't be optimistic (then again what worked then for them might not work now...)

jesus fucking christ the comments why did i?

like to see a convincing explanation about what voting tactically now means given that the likely 3rd place party has already more or less stated that they will give the most vicious and nationalistic Conservative party in modern history carte blanche to do whatever it wants.

This is worth emphasising this morning. Everything depends on how Labour campaigns - right to the end - and the evidence shows we should be energised, not demoralised https://t.co/oebiE5FYAI

— David Wearing (@davidwearing) November 24, 2019

yes need some of this, even if it is rather hopeful and we're all going to die (no lol).

December 13th might be a good day for a statement suicide, maybe in some public space full of gammons

I never really have optimism, but if you absolutely accept that Tory scumbags of one form or another will be in govt possibly for decades and even until you die. Then you might start planning for an earlier death!

Me on December the 13th

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our christmas party on the 13th. i mean i would be getting drunk anyway but by god if i don’t start the lunch with a large tumbler of fernet then carry on in the same vein i’ll be very surprised.

Honestly think I have to stop reading this thread & uninstall twitter til exit poll. It’s doing absolutely nothing for me and I feel sick and anxious every time I think about it.

Can’t do anything to effect outcome, what’s the use?

gotta remind ourselves that there's a bunch of possibilities short of "Johnson gets a workable majority" and a bunch of difficulties beyond "Corbyn becomes next Prime Minister"

however bad it gets the primary job is to keep the Labour party on track which means keeping the melts away tbh

Very much this! Whether we win or lose the end of the road will not be the election outcome.

i think generally speaking it's hugely important that the lib dem vote continues to go down the toilet. swinson has been doing an amazing job on this so far and it doesn't look like they'll float up to the top again any time soon. all those remainish voters she's shedding have got to go somewhere and it surely it won't be the tories will it? that is my one source of hope.

and if everything turns super-bleak there's always the empty satisfaction of Baader-Meinhofing a few fuckers

swinson has still got three weeks of exposure where she'll really have to put herself out there to stop the rot and i think it'll just make things worse for her tbh as she'll continue to be savaged on her previous voting record

I have read alternate takes that a resurgent LibDems is good for Labour in challenging the tories in LibDem/Con marginals. And a tanking LibDems is good for Labour in sending more Remainer votes their way. I'd prefer more of the latter because I'd actually hate to see the 2nd ConDem govt of this century even more than a Tory majority govt or one propped up by the DUP again.

The potholes fund reminds me of John Major's cones hotline, a government without ideas.

climate election... potholes fund... hmmmm

Seriously the sort of cunts who'll think this is a brilliant voteworthy policy would throw a fit if there was talk of throwing £2 billion at public transport

OTM. Nice bit of balanced coverage by Sky with Dia Chakravarty of the Taxpayers Alliance being confronted by John Rentoul and them both agreeing on absolutely everything, with Rentoul drooling - if vampyres can drool - over the possibility of the Tories getting a 200 seat majority.

new polls looking v good for tories and v bad for Labour in scotland and resolutely unshifting for the Labour-Tory gap.

I think the unionist vote in Scotland has hardened into a Unionist vote and try shifting that. A bit of unscientific anecdotage here, my sister used to be a Mod (in the 80s not the 60s, she's not that old, ffs) and in the last few years she's been re-living her youth by buying a scooter and joining a scooter club. As a result she now has lots of ugly bald beer-bellied friends on Facebook (and that's just the women, boom boom) and a lot of them are "Gaun yersel' Boris" types - and, as far as I can see, the thing that unites them is the presence of a Rangers badge here, a Rangers flag there. They hate the SNP and they're not going to vote Labour, so I don't see the Tory vote collapsing in Scotland the way some of us hoped, post-Ruth Davidson.

Stephen Bush said the same, can't remember how he drew this conclusion. He probs hasnt got a Glasgow mod sister tho!

all mod Cons

I blame Brexit and Rangers having a good season.

the beer bellied sash wearers are only part of the unionist coalition though - suspect they'll leak e.g. well-heeled newton mearns/pollokshields types to the lib dems.

the rangers fans probably always voted tory anyhow

Don't think that's true tbh. IndyRef shifted a lot of them from Labour.

... and Brexit put the cap on it.

probably right - indyref did for a lot of the deep roots of the labour party in scotland (certainly in west/central scotland)

A visit from star 🐶 ex Westminster Dog of the Year. #RegisterToVote #RealChange pic.twitter.com/LryYMCeXmI

— Tracy Brabin (@TracyBrabin) November 24, 2019

Batley can't fail with a (meltish but very nice person tbf) ex-Corrie star and an adorable chocolate labbie on the campaign trail.

as if another one of these banged

This man is called Ralph. He is the son of a wealthy duke. Sources tell me a BBC producer forced him to not shave and physically thickened his accent to make him sound working class. I can assure you he does not earn £80K because he does not work. He spends "daddy's money". https://t.co/VnzhSSS84B

— Dr Robert 'Rob' Zands PhD #BeKindOnline (@DrRobertZands) November 21, 2019

Is this one of those hilarious parody Twitter accounts?

Tory manifesto promises:

- Voting rights for British expats even after 15 years abroad.
- Boundary changes to equalise constituency sizes.
- Compulsory voter ID.

Votes for rich tax exiles, gerrymandering, voter suppression. Wow you'd do that for us.

imo gerrymandering is what we should be doing, but on the left

At this really good Italian cafe after an afternoon canvassing in Battersea. Feeling more positive than I thought I would beside one Tory cunt.

someone has put a vote conservative banner on a lamppost round the corner from my house. I'm going out later to throw a mud-ball at it.

trust no polls etc but couple of polls out today are better for the blood pressure

there is no way this shower of shit are 19 pts clear, not a chance!

I blame Brexit and Rangers having a good season.

― 'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 November 2019 bookmarkflaglink

What's the polling in Scotland like?

Tbh if worse came to the worse Johnson if people kicked up a fuss in Glasgow you could see Boris deploying the army to suppress but the Indy movement in Scotland isn't like the one in Spain so I can't see it getting to that.

This is the billionaires’ manifesto.

They bought it.

You’ll pay for it. pic.twitter.com/vLhKmdgwh1

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) November 24, 2019

tory nurse pledge unravelled already

Just get brexit done so we can move on to the important issues facing our country like fixing potholes

What's the polling in Scotland like?

Look away now.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1208572/election-2019-scotland-poll-SNP-labour-tories-nicola-sturgeon

Not ever looking away :)

Thanks. Be good to see a few pollsters but yes that's poor.

Major boost for Labour as Coldplay's Chris Martin (who lives in the US) says he'll probably vote LibDem
https://t.co/OgJ2eMV8gn

— keith flett (@kmflett) November 24, 2019

so yellow

keith flett is the mike giggler of the left

his line in incessant beards, cricket and chartists talk can get very wearing, but there is much worse than him out there!