Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

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leave 4 - 0 remain

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||||||||, Saturday, 23 November 2019 18:17 (six years ago)

ah good I was getting too optimistic

Simon H., Saturday, 23 November 2019 18:45 (six years ago)

The raw numbers are better for Labour than that, it’s where you look at likeliness to vote that it changes.

gyac, Saturday, 23 November 2019 18:57 (six years ago)

A hung parliament with Labour at the helm is the best we can hope for anyway.

pomenitul, Saturday, 23 November 2019 18:59 (six years ago)

Perhaps, but I maintain as I did before that you shouldn’t shit yourself before the exit poll.

gyac, Saturday, 23 November 2019 19:03 (six years ago)

(xp) And that's being very optimistic.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Saturday, 23 November 2019 19:05 (six years ago)

Fiona Bruce's greatest moment was shouting TANKTOPPED BUMBOYS. Twice, iirc.

fetter, Saturday, 23 November 2019 19:08 (six years ago)

one polling boon this election seems to be that nate fkn silver is keeping his analysis to himself

he is possibly unjustly criticised for his goose-entrail flailing in US elex 2016, which he mostly got less wrong than others but his readings of UK results (referendum especially) were worse than useless

mark s, Saturday, 23 November 2019 19:09 (six years ago)

I think they backed down from UK polls a while back. Have anyone ever figured out why UK polling is so bad?

Frederik B, Saturday, 23 November 2019 19:16 (six years ago)

All I will say is that Boris seems edgy as fuck for someone with such a massive polling lead - and he’s doing events that he doesn’t really need to if he can just sit on that lead.

gyac, Saturday, 23 November 2019 19:18 (six years ago)

the UK is bad

||||||||, Saturday, 23 November 2019 19:18 (six years ago)

UK pollsters have tiny samples and are allowed ‘push’ questions. In the US, push-polling is illegal.

santa clause four (suzy), Saturday, 23 November 2019 19:20 (six years ago)

Also, supposedly Johnny Mc is making an announcement re WASPI women tomorrow. If he does, that’s a really big deal.

gyac, Saturday, 23 November 2019 19:21 (six years ago)

Labour goes for the hunni vote! I think uokhuns might be a demographic worth capturing.

santa clause four (suzy), Saturday, 23 November 2019 19:22 (six years ago)

I refuse to believe this conservative govt are going to poll 47%

||||||||, Saturday, 23 November 2019 19:24 (six years ago)

us polling is largely bad for the same reasons uk polling is bad: inadequate weighting models and bad local-to-global generalisation based on too-small samples

in additional an unreadable degree of political volatility, where the past is much less of a guide to the present

mark s, Saturday, 23 November 2019 19:24 (six years ago)

some of the crowd scenes for JC remind me of pence's comment in 2016: "this doesn’t feel like second place."

||||||||, Saturday, 23 November 2019 19:24 (six years ago)

do they still only poll over landline?

||||||||, Saturday, 23 November 2019 19:27 (six years ago)

also assume there will be another bunch of polls tonight for the sundays?

||||||||, Saturday, 23 November 2019 19:30 (six years ago)

The poll above is for the Observer.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Saturday, 23 November 2019 19:38 (six years ago)

it's *in* the observer, i'm not sure that the observer is the client paying for it

mark s, Saturday, 23 November 2019 19:44 (six years ago)

Nate silver says uk polls are useless, is this a good thing?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 23 November 2019 19:55 (six years ago)

Agree. 2017 is leading people to massively overread margin of error movements (when the 2017 movements were outside margin of error) and to ignore that thus far, story of election is "frontrunner maintains and/or extends lead".

— Stephen Bush (@stephenkb) November 23, 2019

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 23 November 2019 20:09 (six years ago)

We should know better on here by now: all the polls are bullshit - apart from the ones showing an ascendant Labour which are obviously the more accurate and significant ones - so nowt to see here!

calzino, Saturday, 23 November 2019 20:10 (six years ago)

silver says uk polls are useless bcz he failed to work out how to aggregate them effectively bcz his grasp of actual politics is zero -- as evidenced by his worse-than-usless op-ed tweets abt us politics

mark s, Saturday, 23 November 2019 20:13 (six years ago)

If uk polls could have been aggregated effectively, then presumably someone would have figured out how to do so. Yet they keep on being shit election after election, compared to pretty much everywhere else in the world.

Frederik B, Saturday, 23 November 2019 20:16 (six years ago)

i prefer to conclude that nate silver is an idiot bcz it fits my priors as well as all the facts in evidence

mark s, Saturday, 23 November 2019 20:19 (six years ago)

“There was something about a four-day working week. I reckon it would just mean doing four 12-hour shifts;” “It’s insulting people’s intelligence. I’m going to be working 7.30 till four, four days a week with three days off, for the same wage? It’s bollocks, isn’t it?”

from Lord Ashcroft Polls focus groups

calzino, Saturday, 23 November 2019 20:23 (six years ago)

I wasn't taking the poll super seriously, just taking any excuse to tamp down my hopes. Hopes bad!!

Simon H., Saturday, 23 November 2019 20:25 (six years ago)

that poll is blair landslide stuff. tonty was cruising round the country being met by large adulatory crowds. hmmm

||||||||, Saturday, 23 November 2019 20:31 (six years ago)

I wanted to keep feeling bad so I popped over the JK Rowling's twitter feed. Very cool!

Simon H., Saturday, 23 November 2019 20:45 (six years ago)

Heading over to Sky news to review this and other Sunday papers this evening https://t.co/5V1Nq0IuJC

— rachel shabi (@rachshabi) November 23, 2019

||||||||, Saturday, 23 November 2019 20:47 (six years ago)

simon

why. would. you. do. that.

||||||||, Saturday, 23 November 2019 20:47 (six years ago)

WASPI policy seems big, right? 3 million affected

||||||||, Saturday, 23 November 2019 20:51 (six years ago)

those waspi women are another group (like junior doctors) who might have been tory voters but have been radicalised into tory haters, Corbz should be able to mop their votes up!

calzino, Saturday, 23 November 2019 20:51 (six years ago)

The voting intentions surveyed since #ITVDebate so far:

Opinium: Con +19
BMG: Con +13
YouGov: Con +12
Panelbase: Con +10

More expected.https://t.co/m1hoBpI81D pic.twitter.com/IrRqq4YFxf

— Britain Elects (@britainelects) November 23, 2019

calzino, Saturday, 23 November 2019 21:00 (six years ago)

Letter from Jo Swinson sent to her East Dunbartonshire constituents this afternoon. Mentions the SNP threat to her several times: “the election is again expected to be close between myself and the SNP.” pic.twitter.com/R5jPV89gty

— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) November 23, 2019

What handwriting lol

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 23 November 2019 21:07 (six years ago)

https://daily.jstor.org/graphology-isnt-real-science/

mark s, Saturday, 23 November 2019 21:18 (six years ago)

simon

why. would. you. do. that.

she has 14 million followers! and like I said I enjoy feeling bad

Simon H., Saturday, 23 November 2019 21:21 (six years ago)

just realised the WASPI policy is launching on same day as tory manifesto. sneaky

||||||||, Saturday, 23 November 2019 21:27 (six years ago)

I didn't realise boris did a u-turn on a previous hollow commitment to the waspi women. excellent

calzino, Saturday, 23 November 2019 21:29 (six years ago)

johnson approval rating over JC has dropped from 45pts to 24pts over the past four weeks in the latest deltapoll (which has CON lead at 13pts)

||||||||, Saturday, 23 November 2019 21:30 (six years ago)

Ugh is Jo Swinson one of those Apprentice-style assholes who always uses ‘myself’ when ‘me’ would be sufficient? See also: people who call the ground ‘floor’.

santa clause four (suzy), Saturday, 23 November 2019 22:07 (six years ago)

a chilling vision of the future

corbyn, in his IRA balaclava, breaks into the home of a landlord to steal ALL of the 80k earnings that he keeps in cash. it will be used to build a solid gold statue of marx pissing on thatcher

“but please, my children will starve” begs the landlord

“FUCK THEM!” corbyn screams

— twigs (@notpixietit) November 22, 2019

actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 23 November 2019 22:09 (six years ago)

This is it? this?. Twice as much for pot holes as childcare and ... nothing else?

45% of the country must really want Brexit very, very badly.

NEW: KEY TORY MANIFESTO PLEDGES

- WAB back before Christmas
- No increases to income tax, national insurance or VAT
- NI threshold raised to £9,500
- £2bn pothole fund
-end car parking charges for NHS staff on night shifts/families of terminally ill
-£1bn for childcare

— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) November 23, 2019

stet, Saturday, 23 November 2019 22:10 (six years ago)

Ugh is Jo Swinson one of those Apprentice-style assholes who always uses ‘myself’ when ‘me’ would be sufficient? See also: people who call the ground ‘floor’.

Makes more sense in Glaswegian: “the election is expected to be close between masel' n' the fuckin' SNP.”

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Saturday, 23 November 2019 22:11 (six years ago)

Fuck me @ the end car parking policy

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 23 November 2019 22:11 (six years ago)

Wonder if they'll work out a rebate system for hospital visitors whose loved one isn't terminal when they go in

FBPRieu (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 November 2019 22:12 (six years ago)

sorry everyone i’m voting tory

actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 23 November 2019 22:12 (six years ago)


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