Elon Musk

My brother has a Tesla. They are kinda cool if you’re the one driving it. Riding in one for 3 hours is incredibly uncomfortable, the interior is just hilariously underthought. They’re stupidly fast though, in a way that makes you a little sick sometimes. I always feel like I’m getting off a roller coaster.

I thought this was a good dissection of the numerous reasons the cybertruck is dumb

https://jalopnik.com/a-deep-look-at-the-design-of-tesla-s-cybertruck-1839993654

I wonder what John McAfee thinks of this?

The truth of "Dank Minge": pic.twitter.com/L4OMh5mAsB

— John McAfee (@officialmcafee) November 21, 2019

He's ordered two already, right?

dank minge was the best star wars extended universe sith lord imo

I kinda welcome more weird ass takes in the horrifically boring and homogenous world of car design, but I can’t imagine driving this thing and not feel like I’m cosplaying.

The full aesthetic error is nailed down by the fact that it’s called the fucking CYBERTRUCK. Jesus.

the thing about design and life is its really all about the details, cars are pretty interesting design objects in that they have a million pieces have to do complex difficult tasks without breaking and have to appeal to as wide an audience as possible, while there are certainly obvious industry trends sitting in a bmw crossover doesnt feel like sitting in a toyota crossover, driving one certainly doesnt, and really while having the same basic shape they look pretty different, and certainly if you owned one youd slowly become deeply personally acquainted w its particular details over time

calling car design homogenous or not changing since the 1980s is prob just due to a lack of interest which then makes observing the details a non starter, which is fine cars a pretty awful in a lot of ways and prob should be banned, but i am pretty skeptical of ppl itt being all wow square truck

the funny thing is elon musk is also all wow square truck, he has no appreciation for the details, hes out there trying to disrupt a huge mature industry containing deep institutional knowledge like hes making an app and it shows

calling car design homogenous or not changing since the 1980s is prob just due to a lack of interest which then makes observing the details a non starter

true

i made a decision a while back to just start commenting on everything, sometimes it backfires

lmao the commenters code

my personal least fave current car trend (besides wagons being replaced by shoe looking crossovers!) is angry eye headlights, car looks like its mad at u, it fn ruined the once pleasantly neutral northern euro audi aesthetic

https://d3lp4xedbqa8a5.cloudfront.net/imagegen/max/ccr/860/-/s3/digital-cougar-assets/traderspecs/2019/02/04/Misc/Audi-A4-Wagon-2019-1.jpg

https://media.ed.edmunds-media.com/audi/allroad-quattro/2005/oem/2005_audi_allroad-quattro_wagon_base_fq_oem_1_500.jpg

on the plus side i am openminded person and will be ready to openly embrace the forthcoming triangle car because i believe it will ultimately lead to the line car, and then finally the point car. or the circle car. maybe one of the consequences of spiraling complexity in the world is the appearance of simplicity (the more points that an equilateral shape has, the more it resembles a circle).

fwiw there are prob more left field designs on the market now than there have been in a while, everyone just wants a crossover tho

https://s.aolcdn.com/dims-global/dims3/GLOB/legacy_thumbnail/640x400/quality/80/https://s.aolcdn.com/commerce/autodata/images/90TOGES1.jpg

^^ ooh, i like that one! a few too many polys but it's getting there

https://miro.medium.com/max/2652/1*uEe9rvbQB8XM6uYWT_6vng.jpeg

tbf it is hard to argue w the utility of these things, drives/etc like a car while being halfway to the interior/head/storage space of a truck

a tall friend of my w bad knees who drives a crossover told me hes never hunkering down to get into a car again which is fair

think i like the mercedes vers out of all of those, lil more boxy like a truck, doesnt have a weird elongated front end

mods, lagoon just posted 23 of the same image, pls fix or replace w/ cybertrucks

The Dyson vacuum worked pretty well, actually! It was actually a plastic part that broke, not the vacuum function itself. There seem to be a lot of vacuums that have mimicked it, though, which is ... what will happen with the best Musk advances.

Dyson is another dick - what a suprise, eh? Pro-Brexit wanker.

the volvo is so weirdly slanted i dont like it (tho i did drive one and it fucking shredded and was huge inside so the experience was actually pretty great even if it looks like its about to pounce on you)

mods, lagoon just posted 23 of the same image

would be a good poll, although one is clearly superior to the rest

pretty obvious if you take a few seconds to examine each one

Oh no pic.twitter.com/RLDfmAxMUe

— Jon Christian.info (@Jon_Christian) November 22, 2019

lmao

lol

feel like the volvo s90 is a good example of a car that cld be easy to criticize as samey but is really low key pretty original, the fancy picture doesnt do justice to how monstrous it is, i saw one covered in dust in a parking lot off a dirt road and it was huge and scary, its basically a euro muscle car

https://i.imgur.com/uGYPAFl.png

also the way the rear end is styled almost like a hatchback is pretty unusual

shd be noted too that new cars are so good from an experience pov driving/comfort/safety etc, my dad has a new tundra and i drove it around the icy backroads of vermont and it was so good, for you city slickers icy dirt roads are by far the most challenging on road driving configuration there is, anyway the tundra just breezed along handles like a car but w the power of a truck, plus its got all the fancy lil features like auto dimming brights, it sees cars coming toward you from very far away and dims your headlights relieving you of a very annoying job, i want that car even if the grill looks dumb

lagoon doing good work itt, appreciating it

courtesy flashing of the brights to u

hes out there trying to disrupt a huge mature industry containing deep institutional knowledge like hes making an app and it shows

― lag∞n, Saturday, November 23, 2019 10:33 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm

anyway i want a tacoma because i am a boring stereotype thx

they do rule as vehicles tbf

its true

This is stunning stuff. TESLA tried to have a whistleblower SWATTED, arrested & placed on a mental health hold in retaliation for him going to journalists with safety violations. Bravo to this police officer for documenting the entire interaction in writing https://t.co/OOsBdBRN6s

— Ali Winston (@awinston) November 23, 2019

corporate scum

that station wagons with rear-facing seats in the back are a thing of the past is yet another sign of how corrupted our culture is

seriously

how do kids today tie action figures onto a spool of fishing line and let them drag far behind on the highway, occasionally reeling them back in to see how warped and deformed they are?

^for some reason my parents were cool with this

lagoon doing good work itt, appreciating it

We lease a Chevy Bolt EV and we love how peppy and quiet and easy to park it is. I think once major car manufacturers start responding to the demand signal for EVs, Tesla could very well be toast.

(the chevy dealerships in the DC/MD/VA area can’t keep Bolts on the lot - EVs are incredibly desirable cars, it’s just a matter of manufacturing capacity and charging infrastructure being brought into line with how much people want them)

electric cars are neato

elon musk needs to evade this threadjack and invent a glider imo

re: crossovers, I got my mom into a Kia Soul to ditch her shitty Chevy something lease deal and it's kind of the perfect car (aside from having to get used to the nature of a dual clutch transmission moving from idle). Enthusiasts bemoan their downsides over car-cars but how many people are driving in such a way that they notice any added body roll?

I think once major car manufacturers start responding to the demand signal for EVs, Tesla could very well be toast.

― El Tomboto, Saturday, November 23, 2019 7:28 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm

^^^ a friend had a Renault Zoe as a loan car for a couple of weeks. First EV I've seen that was basically a regular car, also although it was expensive, the price was "only" a few thousand more than a high end Clio.

My last couple of cars have been leased, the lease is about to end on my (diesel) Ford Fiesta and I've been seriously considering an EV, though as I rely on on-street parking I'm not convinced I'll be able to keep it charged (I do about 300 miles a week). Would get a PHEV but that'd need even more regular access to a charging point, so I may cop out and go for a "self charging" hybrid.

my friend who covers FormulaE for a living and can bore for the olympics on recent breakthroughs in battery and recharge development (paradoxically given its frivolous rich-kid ambience it's where a lot of the current high-end EV R&D is happening) is *enormously* scornful of TESLA in general and musk in particular

There's a certain weird mix of insecurity and arrogant d-baggery in some Tesla drivers. Your faithful correspondent snoball was walking about the town earlier, when I happened to see a Tesla come out of a junction on to a main road. It appeared to 'stall' (do Teslas even stall?), and in a show of defiant overcompensation, the driver engaged Super Pursuit Mode or whatever it's called and roared off along the street. Or rather whined off down the street because no exhaust note.

Saw this just last week.

Don't get me wrong – the Subaru driver was at fault and "lost the fight" as soon as he went aggro. But.

The Tesla driver did jump into that middle lane PDQ without so much as a turn signal. And how that first sub-head is "Don’t these guys learn Teslas have TeslaCam?" does lend itself that the arrogant stereotype does have some basis.

The twitter thread above about the whistleblower is scary. Also is it coincidental that the truck press conference on the same day buried this news coming out?