Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

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I find her genuinely unnerving, much more so than Tommy Robinson or Katie Hopkins or similar, because those guys have an internal logic, it makes sense, and you expect them to exist.

Riley has a mania about her that's different. ShariVari I think you're right this is what radicalization actually looks like. Less coherent and thought out than a grifter that may or may not believe what they are saying. Weird to see it in a public person not a family member, guess it does belong on the brainworm thread. its no coherent enough to be right wing per se, its the more muddled self-radicalization of a member of the public

anvil, Friday, 22 November 2019 10:33 (six years ago)

i think SV has it, i'm sure that the tunnel she's gone down was at least informed by antipathy to "extremist" politics but she looks like somebody who really can't bear to be wrong and the continuous doubling down when challenged has driven her into a monomania she won't let herself back out of


She has all those hyper-aggressive and vicious attack accounts boosting and linking her to wildly distorted stuff. I hardly need to tell you that these guys are constantly attacking left-wing Jewish people in Labour, including those who have been critical of the party.

See the replies to Miriam Mirwitch, the Jewish chair of young labour, if you think a lot of this isn’t coming from an anti-left position.

Rachel Riley’s t-shirt is anti-black, offensive and utterly inappropriate.

We must fight antisemitism within and outside of the Labour movement.

But erasing any racism and the fight against apartheid is not a part of that fight. We must always stand together.

— Miriam Mirwitch (@mrwtch) November 21, 2019

gyac, Friday, 22 November 2019 10:33 (six years ago)

BG, is the *popular centrist account* trying to rubbish Corbyn’s anti-apartheid bona fides a former Melody Maker journo? Because if so he’s all over FB threads saying those in his peer group who differ with his opinion are gaslighting Jews. I feel that a lot of journalists who should know the difference are presenting personal opinions as fact on this topic.

santa clause four (suzy), Friday, 22 November 2019 10:36 (six years ago)

Riley certainly tweets about the evil of the "hard left" and i assume she automatically equates "hard left" with "antisemite" now which, oh god the historical irony

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 November 2019 10:37 (six years ago)

i've reined myself in on here about the former MM journalists and their chums who still seem to be out there fighting the Blair wars, because i've got nothing helpful to say that wouldn't degenerate into kneejerk radge spite about class solidarity etc

but what a bunch of fucking maroons

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 November 2019 10:39 (six years ago)

It's an anti-left position but it's also a very specifically anti-Muslim / racist position. I think a lot of those attack accounts on Twitter aren't just positioning against Corbyn because they're wedded to third-way Blairism, they genuinely think there's a zero-sum game between British Jews and other minorities and Corbyn has thrown his lot in with the latter. It's the 'clash of civilisations / Eurabian hordes' narrative that also engergises the extreme right.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Friday, 22 November 2019 10:39 (six years ago)

BG, is the *popular centrist account* trying to rubbish Corbyn’s anti-apartheid bona fides a former Melody Maker journo? Because if so he’s all over FB threads saying those in his peer group who differ with his opinion are gaslighting Jews. I feel that a lot of journalists who should know the difference are presenting personal opinions as fact on this topic.


I think you mean me, and no, it’s an anon account who is not connected to journalism in any way afaict.

gyac, Friday, 22 November 2019 10:40 (six years ago)

you can tell me and gyac apart by the fact that only one of us is MR seamus milne

actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 22 November 2019 10:42 (six years ago)

Well, I don’t mean you because it’s a man, for starters.

santa clause four (suzy), Friday, 22 November 2019 10:43 (six years ago)

It's an anti-left position but it's also a very specifically anti-Muslim / racist position. I think a lot of those attack accounts on Twitter aren't just positioning against Corbyn because they're wedded to third-way Blairism, they genuinely think there's a zero-sum game between British Jews and other minorities and Corbyn has thrown his lot in with the latter. It's the 'clash of civilisations / Eurabian hordes' narrative that also engergises the extreme right.


It does, but there’s a lot of attacking on wider left positions too. Like a lot of the accounts are gleefully sharing the clip of some fash calling a Corbyn an IRA sympathiser in Birmingham yesterday and then justifying it by “well it was the anniversary of the Birmingham bombings yesterday”.

I am not alone in finding it sinister that Corbyn campaigned for the Birmingham 6, nor that the rhetoric is drifting towards a very far right position where it’s ok to be as anti-Irish as you like in the claim that you’re only having a go at “the provos”. This has been happening to Muslims for ages but to me it signals a wider scope and is actively seeking to change the meaning of history. It’s disgusting.

gyac, Friday, 22 November 2019 10:45 (six years ago)

you can tell me and gyac apart by the fact that only one of us is MR seamus milne


If MR Seumas Milne is so powerful, why can’t he just click his finger (Stalinistly) and get the papers to stop shitting themselves every day? I like to think the sugar tax on milk-based drinks in the manifesto is a shout out to Gapesy, though.

gyac, Friday, 22 November 2019 10:46 (six years ago)

an MI5 spook currently pouring one out in hell, Des fucking Lynham, Rachel Riley.. she's definitely part of a lineage of abysmal people associated with Countdown. The other night there was a comedy edition with Jimmy Carr hosting that I caught for like 30 secs whilst channel surfing... jesus fucking wept. Lots of performative chortling at unfunny/or ones own jokes, everything that is wretched about bbc comedy was there.

calzino, Friday, 22 November 2019 10:48 (six years ago)

Well, I don’t mean you because it’s a man, for starters.


I thought you were responding to the mention of the popular centrist account and I was saying, it was me that mentioned that, not bg? So confused.

gyac, Friday, 22 November 2019 10:49 (six years ago)

It's the 'clash of civilisations / Eurabian hordes' narrative that also engergises the extreme right.

I hadn't thought about this, but there's overlap with some of the brainworms thread here - belief in a deeper more fundamental truth rather than a prosaic tangible truth that may be present at any given time ("you don't need to prove each rain drop is actually rain to know that its raining, what difference does it make if one isn't. what difference does it make if this criminal isn't actually an immigrant. what difference does it make whether they actually committed a crime"). They're seeing things you aren't because you're looking at raindrops they're looking at rain. They're looking at stories, you're looking at 'facts'. There are no facts

anvil, Friday, 22 November 2019 10:52 (six years ago)

an MI5 spook currently pouring one out in hell, Des fucking Lynham, Rachel Riley.. she's definitely part of a lineage of abysmal people associated with Countdown

is Stelling in on it? huge if true

anvil, Friday, 22 November 2019 10:53 (six years ago)

Gah wariotifo was like the best account on there

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 22 November 2019 10:53 (six years ago)

you’ll be pleased to know there is a similarly themed account now operating

gyac, Friday, 22 November 2019 10:54 (six years ago)

He is back as waluigitifo, inevitably.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Friday, 22 November 2019 10:54 (six years ago)

xxxp

lol knew there were other Countdown twats, just couldn't remember Stelling at the point of typing. He's probably murdered more people than Fred West.

calzino, Friday, 22 November 2019 10:57 (six years ago)

My response to Labour's transformative manifesto - I'll be in Shipley tonight campaigning to unseat Philip Davies - anything is possible! pic.twitter.com/buVMkhkfbl

— Paul Mason (@paulmasonnews) November 21, 2019

the pinefox, Friday, 22 November 2019 11:01 (six years ago)

Soz gyac, I was responding to BG in my post about the ex-MM dude. I tend to lurk on the threads where AS is being discussed by Gen X music hacks who, if gentile, rarely shouted about AS until JC led Labour. Also I couldn’t bear being called AS by some centrist numpty who has no idea about my upbringing, and wasn’t paying attention to the times I’ve called out racism right across the political spectrum before 2015 (and since).

santa clause four (suzy), Friday, 22 November 2019 11:06 (six years ago)

Was this linked?

Seen Jo Swinson in Glasgow and my pal confronted her about austerity’s impact here.

Glasgow wont forget what the Lib Dems did when they were in government!#JayTellsJo pic.twitter.com/AtunH8vxyA

— Daniel McLaughlin (@Drusus2000) November 22, 2019

gyac, Friday, 22 November 2019 11:21 (six years ago)

nice use of nodding dog routine while someone talks about austerity deaths.

calzino, Friday, 22 November 2019 11:23 (six years ago)

she is so fucking bad at this

actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 22 November 2019 11:34 (six years ago)

Squirrels, the poor, foreigns- it’s all the same to Jo

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Friday, 22 November 2019 11:34 (six years ago)

fucking hating 80k question time guy with an all-consuming passion. there's too much talk of millionaires and billionaires and not enough talk of just the awful petit booj cunts who deliver tory government after tory government and are the footsoldiers of ruling class revanchism

— Brigata Posta di Merda (@NParticipacion) November 22, 2019

xyzzzz__, Friday, 22 November 2019 11:48 (six years ago)

willie rennie “what do you think about brexit?”

haha get fucked

||||||||, Friday, 22 November 2019 12:06 (six years ago)

Question Time clown of the week

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Friday, 22 November 2019 12:06 (six years ago)

Coincidence? I think not pic.twitter.com/Ox5nX2xVqY

— Simon (@simonk_133) November 22, 2019

||||||||, Friday, 22 November 2019 12:09 (six years ago)

36? Well we know what he’s not spending his money on.

gyac, Friday, 22 November 2019 12:10 (six years ago)

xxp
hope he always drives carefully on his motorcycle and remembers to wear a helmet

calzino, Friday, 22 November 2019 12:14 (six years ago)

look i think we need to acknowledge that this comment from the mirror story on the world's oldest 36-year-old is otm

Exposing a audience member - Dangerous

Reminds of of Gestapo Tactics, or recent Russian Gov. attitude towards Gays

"Speak against our leader - right or wrong you will be Punished"

Dangerous ground you are treading Paul Mason (Editor in Chief DM)

actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 22 November 2019 12:17 (six years ago)

FOURTH PLEBEIAN: Tear him for his bad IT consultancy!

mark s, Friday, 22 November 2019 12:17 (six years ago)

yes this is the only bit of shakespeare i know, yes it is always funny

mark s, Friday, 22 November 2019 12:18 (six years ago)

Who seeks for better of thee, sauce his palate
With thy most operant poison! What is here?
Gold? yellow, glittering, precious gold? No, gods,
I am no idle votarist: roots, you clear heavens!
Thus much of this will make black white, foul fair,
Wrong right, base noble, old young, coward valiant.
Ha, you gods! why this? what this, you gods? Why, this
Will lug your priests and servants from your sides,
Pluck stout men's pillows from below their heads:
This yellow slave
Will knit and break religions, bless the accursed,
Make the hoar leprosy adored, place thieves
And give them title, knee and approbation
With senators on the bench: this is it
That makes the wappen'd widow wed again;
Stoya, come to Athens,
The revolution is happen’n

gyac, Friday, 22 November 2019 12:27 (six years ago)

tear him for his dutty genes as well (even tho I looked like shit* at 36 as well)

* pretty much the same as I look at 46!

calzino, Friday, 22 November 2019 12:27 (six years ago)

gyac, that's incredible

actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 22 November 2019 12:29 (six years ago)

£80k dudes feeling like the squeezed middle are otm in thinking that their lives are nothing extraordinary and lifestyles should be about average for the public at large. Excellent example of how the media has insulated them into obliviousness about how the vast majority of people actually live.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Friday, 22 November 2019 12:32 (six years ago)

these faux kulaks own a bit more than 3 goats and turnip patch

calzino, Friday, 22 November 2019 12:35 (six years ago)

£80k plus blinis

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Friday, 22 November 2019 12:36 (six years ago)

🎶 three goats and a turnip, two bits 🎶

actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 22 November 2019 12:40 (six years ago)

Extremely mad I can’t find the original 80k man, the small business owner from the QT GE17 spécial and originator of this classic meme:

MR CORBYN YOU HAVE MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME, A PHARAOH WHO BUILDS PYRAMIDS USING THOUSANDS OF SLAVES, TO VOTE LABOUR

— wales golf madrid (@AScribbledEagle) May 29, 2017

gyac, Friday, 22 November 2019 12:43 (six years ago)

SV otm. You can see on his face that Moneybags literally can't comprehend how he's to be considered wealthy -- because he clearly feels like he is only barely getting the average life. The only way you get there is total isolation from the average reality. It's like a shit squeezed-middle version of the gilded age.

stet, Friday, 22 November 2019 12:44 (six years ago)

FOURTH PLEBEIAN: Tear him for his bad IT consultancy!


i think on another occasion i said that this was from Timon, it is in fact Julius Caesar, as any fule kno.

Fizzles, Friday, 22 November 2019 12:45 (six years ago)

xp any bets as to how this hard-done by hero thinks is getting an easy ride in life?

gyac, Friday, 22 November 2019 12:46 (six years ago)

i think on another occasion i said that this was from Timon, it is in fact Julius Caesar Pumbaa, as any fule kno.

ftfy

actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 22 November 2019 12:48 (six years ago)

some of these rich folks have never wiped their arse on a newspaper (the Sun doesn't count), had a piece of foam ont deck as bed, scraped green mould off a condensed milk tin, lived in a hoyle in the ground where one gets battered to death every day and fed rat poison for brecky.... need a poverty awareness tsar with fresh poverty cliches to educate these fules?.. gizza job!

calzino, Friday, 22 November 2019 12:53 (six years ago)

stan.... we stan

made some more propaganda for momentum. socialism's comingpic.twitter.com/5S1gV86PaN

— Stan The Golden Boy (@tristandross) November 22, 2019

||||||||, Friday, 22 November 2019 12:54 (six years ago)

drag her jeremy

Jo Swinson hasn't tweeted a single time this election asking people to register to vote.

Is she worried people saddled in debt from university will remember?

Register to vote today: https://t.co/vYH9vXVPXQ #RegisterToVote pic.twitter.com/3141mepJw0

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) November 22, 2019

actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 22 November 2019 13:03 (six years ago)

just what the country needed, another party that equally despises and fears young people.

calzino, Friday, 22 November 2019 13:06 (six years ago)


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