Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

Lol at least scratchcard fail made for some lols and it inspired me to apply for a provisional driving licence. Cos you need photo id to claim prizes of a grand or over. If you've actually won them that is. But having photo id is seeming increasingly important as we go forward into this new era!

Lol chuka talking about Boris letting the queen down.

Oh Calz, that sucks.

Watching QT. Telegraph woman is actually thick, gammon on 80k miffed at a tax schedule that would have him pay a tenner extra a month got told by half the audience that yeah you ARE in the top five percent (that’s how averages work) Jenrick trying to say faux fact-checking shenanigans are Westminster insider BS despite someone in a Northern audience bringing it up in disapproval, and idiots placing the blame with Labour for austerity. AAAAARGH.

Plus Richard Burgon, who is shite. That's it, I've had enough.

not sure why anyone puts themself through the ordeal of watching QT tbh

Yeah I never read anything about it apart from here and it’s really bad for me blood pressure, fuck watching it

Burgon just gave a good answer re: Andrew and VAWG.

If you think Burgon is shit listen to that oily tory twat getting clapped for swerving a question by talking about heroic firefighters, even though they got blamed for Grenfell

not sure why anyone puts themself through the ordeal of watching QT tbh

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especially when the cricket's on!

That vacuous telegraph columnist barely has a functioning brain. Wtf is she ever talking about

Whoa....

For every £1 the Labour Party raised during the first week of this election campaign, the Tories raised £25. pic.twitter.com/5jfnpQ4RP4

— Theo Usherwood (@theousherwood) November 21, 2019

For those on text-only, that's only large donations.

Does Theo think that donations under 7500 don't exist?

The below accounts have been suspended and it appears to be politically motivated. Twitter is a hellscape at the best of times, and these guys are among the few who make logging on worthwhile. They should all be reinstated immediately. https://t.co/AqshgUg2wY

— Simon Hedges #BeKindOnline (@Orwell_Fan) November 21, 2019

orwell fan posting in real voice is otm

it's fucking sinister that this is happening during a snap election.

Leftists to all the liberal rubes rn pic.twitter.com/CsaSUcfCSL

— Admiral Ackbars Memoriam (@GhostofAckbar) November 21, 2019

head of policy at twitter is ex-conservative candidate nick pickles. hmmm

xp

It is sinister, but the upside for me personally is I no longer have to fulminate embarrassingly when someone posts some unfunny parody tweet itt which I don't recognize as a parody and which then has to be explained to me like I'm the poster's grandad.

I think Jude has deactivated because we DM a fair bit and our correspondence is still in my inbox.

Good to see this addressed in the Labour manifesto as well:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-50511847

looks like they got the guy that started the "Jo Swinson Kills Squirrels" meme as well

xxp sounds like the kind of thing a granddad would say.

xp not a follower but yeah you can tell if someone is suspended because the profile will say so, it says “tweets not found” if they just deactivated.

Need to see some constituency polling for Peterborough

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/22/peterborough-voters-we-need-to-give-people-hope-again

was this posted ? fkn yikes

Gosh. This did not go well for @SamGyimah.

He’s not having a good election campaign at all, is he? pic.twitter.com/vrF22VPaOu

— James Foster (@JamesEFoster) November 21, 2019

Fuck some "businessman" who really wants to vote for the Liberal Democrats tbh

Mair "so if brexit happens you won't be able to fund this".. lol! that £50 bn libDem "brexit bonus" is even more of a genius move as when Gideon said there would be a punitive brexit budget if people voted for it

Of course I’m on it - thanks for the heads-up - and my very best wishes to #tbeu - what a tragedy - someone will be at the club tonight at 11pm - wearing a club strip and carrying a copy of the Tooting Trumpet - you can trust them.

— Rory Stewart (@RoryStewartUK) November 21, 2019

no flies on hepcat Rory, he's down with the kids on the tweets

useful context to suggest Labour’s spending plans might not be quite as extraordinary as some think - via The Times pic.twitter.com/IM13my70CT

— Jim Pickard (@PickardJE) November 22, 2019

this graph (from a murdoch owned Tory rag) makes it seem like the Labour manifesto is a comparatively tame spending spree in the scheme of Western democracies.

Yeah but those are all – *shudder* – socialist countries.

The Times' coverage has been sensible compared to the Telegraph's tbf.

god that sam gyimah interview is painful

nv otm re: fuck small businesspeople entertaining the idea of voting libdem (and small business tyrants in general) but tbfttl, he was doing a better job holding gyimah to account than most journalists would have

'sensible compared to the telegraph' is not a high bar to clear tho

https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/4499-the-long-conservative-decline

I never knew the internal Conservative Party Stop Boris campaign, yes the one that miserably failed was actually code-named Project Arse!

The 'remain bonus' being talked up as £50bn of new money is a fabulous. Not even sure that the Vote Leave campaign could match the chutzpah.

it's some galaxy-brain creative accounting alright

Maybe not for here, and not for right wing brainworm thread either but....

What is the deal with Rachel Riley (and to a lesser extent those other two but they are way less famous and I can't remember their names). Is it just Corbyn Derangement Syndrome? It has to be counter-productive at this point, and career-wise its weird (or is it?).

What's her end goal...and what does she do if Corbyn stands down next month? Just move on to whoever his replacement is? She's a LibDem, which presumably closes off the Katie Hopkins route, I don't see where the longevity in this is

I can respect grift, but I don't think this is grift

It's not a grift. An old Nazi like Simon Heffer talking about Corbyn re-opening the concentration camps is cynical. Riley (like Linehan imo) is 100% sincere and has fallen into a weird internet hole where they've lost all touch with reality. Not being glib but it's a form of radicalisation.

When Riley had a go at the Durham Brass Band for playing a Jewish standard, she said the level of offence was like "a black panther showing up at a khlan rally". She's either thick as a plank or just really is very right-wing and borderline fascist.

got one of them LibDem leaflets today with Swinson quotes attributed to The Guardian and a quote from The Irish Times saying "Labour is a shambles". There is good vid doing the rounds where Swinson is slated by a young articulate and quite softly spoken Glaswegian lad about her role in austerity and people he knew and are dead because of it while she robotically does the nodding dog routine.

xp I think the most unsavoury thing about the whole t-shirt thing, besides literally ignoring black people who are angry about it, is the alternative history of the nonstop picket spread by various ne’er do wells and fantasists. This is based on a Telegraph article that distorts the views of the actual historian who wrote it, and a ~popular centrist account that spends all day attacking Corbyn in a really unselfaware pontificating style.

The nonstop picket, as covered in the detailed New Statesman piece about the anti apartheid protests, did conflict with the main ANC protest. But it wasn’t without value or counterproductive to the aims of the movement, as stated in the piece. The main ANC protest focused on Mandela but the nonstop picket was for other prisoners of the apartheid regime.

One of the most high profile was David Kitson.

I leave the rest of this to one of the historians of the movement whose replies have gone ignored.

Hi @RachelRileyRR it's worth pointing out that all of the charges against Jeremy Corbyn and the other arrestees were dropped after it was demonstrated that the ban on anti-apartheid protests was unjustified: https://t.co/IfxigOX7HA

— Gavin Brown (@lestageog) November 21, 2019

Yes, the City of London Anti-Apartheid Group contained members of the Revolutionary Communist Group, but its Non-Stop Picket of the South African Embassy was also sponsored by the Parliamentary Liberal Party and the Bishop of Croydon

— Gavin Brown (@lestageog) November 21, 2019

Jeremy Corbyn first supported City of London Anti-Apartheid Group's campaigns at the request of his constituent, Norma Kitson, a Jewish South African recognised as one of the Jewish heroes of the anti-apartheid struggle pic.twitter.com/kggo2SXgNr

— Gavin Brown (@lestageog) November 21, 2019

She's either thick as a plank or just really is very right-wing and borderline fascist.

it's entirely possible that it's all of the above

aye, it doesn't really need to be either/or

Yair Wallach also very good on this as per. If anyone bitching about twitter links knows a better way of easily accessing educated opinions by SOAS academics, I’m all ears.

The Rachel Riley T-shirt is the best visual illustration of the staggering myopia which characterises some of the response to antisemitism. A thread with some thoughts.

— Yair Wallach (@YairWallach) November 21, 2019

i think SV has it, i'm sure that the tunnel she's gone down was at least informed by antipathy to "extremist" politics but she looks like somebody who really can't bear to be wrong and the continuous doubling down when challenged has driven her into a monomania she won't let herself back out of

yeah, i dunno what else to call it other than radicalisation, sv otm

i read that Yair Wallach thread yesterday and it really is excellent, he calmly and civilly tries to explain why she's wrong without being antagonistic or sarcastic. i'm guessing she hasn't responded.

I'm not sure she's particularly right-wing. She strikes me as unwell and being goaded by a lot of people on the right into increasingly extreme behaviour / positions. It's unfortunate but it's also not worth trying to correct her / argue.

I often notice hyper bigots on forums always have some dubious hackademic longread from the Mail or the Telegraph to back up some unsupportable nonsense they are posting. But these are just racist plebs, when celebs do it and don't seem realise that they will be thoroughly scrutinised or perhaps "bullied" or "trolled" as they would have it. They are doing all their celebrity mystique in by completely revealing how transparently dim and hateful they are. Should just stick to boasting about their rugs in Hello magazine.

I find her genuinely unnerving, much more so than Tommy Robinson or Katie Hopkins or similar, because those guys have an internal logic, it makes sense, and you expect them to exist.

Riley has a mania about her that's different. ShariVari I think you're right this is what radicalization actually looks like. Less coherent and thought out than a grifter that may or may not believe what they are saying. Weird to see it in a public person not a family member, guess it does belong on the brainworm thread. its no coherent enough to be right wing per se, its the more muddled self-radicalization of a member of the public