Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

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I mean as someone whose formative online years were spent on LJ

Not gonna lie, I had to blink twice and think about this for a while

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:02 (six years ago)

This is a manifesto of hope. A manifesto that will bring real change. A manifesto full of popular policies that the political establishment has blocked for a generation. Those policies are fully costed, with no tax increases for 95% of taxpayers.

Over the next three weeks, the most powerful people in Britain and their supporters are going to tell you that everything in this manifesto is impossible. That it’s too much for you. Because they don’t want real change. Why would they? The system is working just fine for them. It’s rigged in their favour.

But it’s not working for you. If your wages never seem to go up and your bills never seem to go down, if your public services only seem to get worse, despite the heroic efforts of those who work in them, then it’s not working for you ...

The US president who led his country out of the Great Depression, President Franklin Roosevelt, had to take on the rich and powerful in America to do it. That’s why he said: “They are unanimous in their hate for me, and I welcome their hatred.”

He knew that when you’re serious about real change, those who profit from a rigged system, who squirrel away the wealth created by millions of people, won’t give up without a fight.

So I accept the implacable opposition and hostility of the rich and powerful is inevitable.

I accept the opposition of the billionaires because we will make those at the top pay their fair share of tax to help fund world-class public services for you. That’s real change.

I accept the hostility of the bad bosses paying poverty pay because we will give Britain a pay rise, starting with a real living wage of at least £10 an hour, including for young workers. That’s real change.

I accept the implacable opposition of the dodgy landlords because we’ll build a million homes, empower tenants and control rents. That’s real change.

I accept the hostility of the big polluters because we will make sure they pay their fair share of the costs of their destruction, create huge numbers of climate jobs and build the healthy, green economy of the future. That’s real change.

I accept the fierce opposition of the giant healthcare corporations because we will stop them sucking out profits from our NHS. That’s real change.

I accept the hostility of the privatised utilities companies because we will stop their great rip-off by bringing rail, mail, water and energy into public ownership and running them for the people. That’s real change.

And here’s a brand new one: I accept the implacable opposition of the private internet providers because we’re going to give you the very fastest full fibre broadband for free. That’s real change.

the pinefox, Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:06 (six years ago)

I see Jess Phillips was on Good Morning Britain today saying she didn’t think a Labour government could deliver on its manifesto promises? The Conservatives have already used the clip on their sites.

gyac, Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:10 (six years ago)

i think it's an old clip?

mark s, Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:11 (six years ago)

i mean from several years ago

mark s, Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:11 (six years ago)

invoking FDR is good imo, but taking on big business elites was made an easier job for him as a very rwealthy plutocrat from the main US power elite family of the era. JC has hell on in this neo-lib shithole, again.

calzino, Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:13 (six years ago)

The banner on the video I saw suggests otherwise, but I’m not willing to fire up ITV hub lol

gyac, Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:15 (six years ago)

yes i haven't actually, like, *checked* myself either, i'm just repeating what MR seamus milne tells me to say usually reliable commentators have said

mark s, Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:17 (six years ago)

but I...

gyac, Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:18 (six years ago)

I can't believe a self promoting celeb like Jess would be such an easy establishment shill after seeing her gritty performances in parliament

calzino, Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:20 (six years ago)

Hm

Here's the original video: https://t.co/drso0JAjam

— Sam 'Communism'?🌹 (@samfoster99) November 21, 2019

nashwan, Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:22 (six years ago)

Ok, sorry to mark, wow they just reskinned that video, cool cool cool. Not that she should be giving them this stuff anyway.

gyac, Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:24 (six years ago)

People who bang on about Corbyn the DiViSiVe FiGuRe are always way more fixated on him as an individual than the supposed cultists who merely think that fixing the housing crisis, taxing corporations and ending austerity would be good not bad

YouGov to see it (wins), Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:25 (six years ago)

invoking FDR is good imo

100%. And more overtly too, this guy could still come on in the last 10 mins even at 137

anvil, Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:25 (six years ago)

animatronics has come a long way

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:26 (six years ago)

c'mon the electorate love disabled historical characters!

calzino, Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:27 (six years ago)

seamus was wrong i was wrong too, it's not from several years ago it's from early october when her stupid book came out

mark s, Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:30 (six years ago)

So just to recap, in the last 28 hours, the Conservatives:
1. Changed their Twitter profile to look like a factchecker
2. Accused a Channel 4 reporter of asking "left-wing" questions
3. Banned The Mirror from their battle bus
This is... not good

— Rowland Manthorpe (@rowlsmanthorpe) November 21, 2019

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:30 (six years ago)

+ Jess P fakery and it's definitely a strategy to mislead across social media -- and to do so openly!

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:32 (six years ago)

oh god in the early period of the Boris regime, just when you are waiting to die thinking things can't get any better. The series the bbc have commissioned from one of her stupid books will start.

calzino, Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:33 (six years ago)

The campaign has odd reminders of May but the social media strategy is very much new...probably because May chose not to go online, like DL xp

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:33 (six years ago)

aye tories are reluctant to go online, it's hard to find respectable tory spheres where the discourse is refined and civil apparently

calzino, Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:36 (six years ago)

Grimsby looks like it will turn blue:

Usual caveats apply, but... wow. If replicated on the night then Labour are in deep trouble all over the country https://t.co/ymgvGJ5GEd

— Dom Walsh (@DomWalsh13) November 21, 2019

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:38 (six years ago)

MGGA!

nashwan, Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:39 (six years ago)

The big caveat...Grimsby is not the country.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:42 (six years ago)

There are bunch of Labour seats that will go blue and vice versa an GG is one place where the BXP vote will hurt Labour more than Tories. Not convinced there are enough like it to rule out Labour closing the gap.

nashwan, Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:42 (six years ago)

I really need to see more constituency polling..

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:43 (six years ago)

Look North was live from Grimsby last night but i don't really remember what the general vibe was. it's hardcore Brexitland anyway, white and isolated af

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:43 (six years ago)

Page 98 of the Labour Manifesto: 'We will immediately suspend the sale of arms to Saudi Arabia for use in Yemen and to Israel for arms used in violation of the human rights of Palestinian civilians, and conduct a root-and-branch reform of our arms exports regime' 👍

— Chris Rossdale (@crossdale) November 21, 2019

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:47 (six years ago)

Not surprising that a 2nd ref with option to remain is a stitch up to Brexit heartlands

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:50 (six years ago)

On immigration Labour's manifesto promises to:
-scrap the 2014 Immigration Act,
-compensate victims of the Windrush scandal
-end indefinite detention and review alternatives to detention centres

— Maya Goodfellow (@MayaGoodfellow) November 21, 2019

gyac, Thursday, 21 November 2019 12:04 (six years ago)

Labour's manifesto promises to "give full voting rights to all
UK residents" 🙌🙌

— Maya Goodfellow (@MayaGoodfellow) November 21, 2019

gyac, Thursday, 21 November 2019 12:05 (six years ago)

We're so far down the rabbit hole now, but it blows my mind that THIS GOVERNMENT seized the assets of countless BAME British citizens who had been here almost all their lives, froze their legal documents then deported them to foreign countries to die & barely anyone mentions it. https://t.co/rzSt2sqXCc

— Ally Fogg (@AllyFogg) November 21, 2019

I’d forgotten about the asset seizing, just incredibly fucking evil

gyac, Thursday, 21 November 2019 12:08 (six years ago)

Some seats worth looking at polling for may be Batley & Spen, Cardiff West, Swansea West, Durham, Huddersfield and Torfaen. Improbable gains for the Tories but not impossible so if they're making significant inroads in those places that's bad.

nashwan, Thursday, 21 November 2019 12:09 (six years ago)

Okay now what the hell

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/21/tory-party-tweets-link-to-fake-labour-manifesto-site

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Thursday, 21 November 2019 12:43 (six years ago)

Dom D-Dom Dom Dom

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 November 2019 12:46 (six years ago)

"It clearly states in the tiny print at the bottom of the page if you scroll down past the big picture of Corbyn and the LABOUR MANIFESTO banner that this site is promoted on behalf of the Conservative Party and in no way is it intended to deceive"

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 November 2019 12:50 (six years ago)

xxxp
you can safely write off Hudds for the tories. They've actually dug up a candidate even more unpopular than Sheerman. An evil old multi-millionaire who has been fined multiple times for dodgy practice at his dodgy as fuck financing company and once almost destroyed the football club after stealing their stadium shares for a quid while they were in administration. Even loads of tories despise him and at one point he couldn't safely walk through the town centre, that many people wanted to murder him.

calzino, Thursday, 21 November 2019 12:50 (six years ago)

https://gds.blog.gov.uk/2014/03/02/report-a-misleading-website-to-search-engines/

the irony.

koogs, Thursday, 21 November 2019 12:50 (six years ago)

I think Batley & Spen might be safe as well. But I'm basing this on it being way too poor as fuck and with too large an Asian population to go blue. But I might be totally wrong.

calzino, Thursday, 21 November 2019 12:56 (six years ago)

Don't get me wrong I think all those seats I listed are safe really, it's just that if the polling does shows the Blue Waste are able to even improve in polling even a few percent where there are 2 Labour votes for every Tory one that's a bad sign for the real marginals. To me it seems like the Tories are maxed out in these places which are also impervious to an LD bounce.

nashwan, Thursday, 21 November 2019 13:00 (six years ago)

Ahahahaha. This is an absolute first class Liz Truss moment. pic.twitter.com/Aemeber7h5

— Dawn Foster (@DawnHFoster) November 21, 2019

||||||||, Thursday, 21 November 2019 13:03 (six years ago)

lmao!

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 21 November 2019 13:04 (six years ago)

Corbyn's audience is chanting, about the NHS, "not for sale" to the tune of "lock her up" and "build that wall".

— David Hirsh (@DavidHirsh) November 21, 2019

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Thursday, 21 November 2019 13:13 (six years ago)

is that a tune?

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 November 2019 13:13 (six years ago)

Between this, Riley and Adam Boulton coming for the corpse of Neruda on the grounds of logical inconsistency idk how we can plumb further depths of stupidity but am excited to find out.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Thursday, 21 November 2019 13:15 (six years ago)

Adam Boulton coming for the corpse of Neruda

Huh?

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 21 November 2019 13:18 (six years ago)

Seriously you don't need that tweet

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 November 2019 13:19 (six years ago)

He knew that when you’re serious about real change, those who profit from a rigged system, who squirrel away the wealth created by millions of people, won’t give up without a fight.

pointed attack at the Lib Dems here

Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 21 November 2019 13:19 (six years ago)

Between this, Riley and Adam Boulton coming for the corpse of Neruda on the grounds of logical inconsistency idk how we can plumb further depths of stupidity but am excited to find out.


When the electorate votes for a massive Conservative majority on the 12th?

gyac, Thursday, 21 November 2019 13:21 (six years ago)


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