Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

the golden age

twitter is useful for me bcz i do need to know roughly what's going on but i never read newspapers or watch TV (they're bad not good, way worse than twitter, quit them and end them*)

+1

Being called a melt is about as offensive as being called a wally.

"these threads used also to serve that purpose but now they're mainly filled with bits of twitter lol"

Funny you should say this a day after someone comes in saying "I don't know anything not been on twitter forever but this is why I think Corbyn is terrible"

Basically twitter is good.

Prefer gishgalloper to melt tbh.

ok boomer

You people.

Being called a melt is about as offensive as being called a wally.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:55 (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

sobering tbh. Will reconsider my usage of this term

twitter is useful for me bcz i do need to know roughly what's going on but i never read newspapers or watch TV (they're bad not good, way worse than twitter, quit them and end them*)

these threads used also to serve that purpose but now they're mainly filled with bits of twitter lol, deems on point it turns out, wow at that

i will never log off

I always assumed that if there were another hung parliament, the LibDems would swallow their pride and find a way to allow Corbyn into 10 Downing St. I may have been wrong. Here is why. https://t.co/wqzA5886jT

— Robert Peston (@Peston) November 21, 2019

I think it was, as Gyac said, Matt Zarb-Cousin who introduced this word to politics?

But I wasn't there at the time.

I tried Twitter for a time but couldn't bring myself to be interested enough in what minor television personalities have to say about trans rights. It's also a really ugly, clunky site to use. That said I follow a lot of irritating FB groups, so it's the same difference

we were gish galloping for gold in 2012. Before it turned out one Bradley Wiggins blood sample had more fucking dope in it than the entire Soviet Union gymnast team from the 80's.

I agree with the people who have said that refusing to vote Labour because of your BS concerns about them is wrong.

One must either vote Labour or vote in the tactically best way to stop the Cons.

Anyone who does neither of those things is very wrong and bad and deserves no respect and no engagement unless it is to persuade them to act differently, which they probably won't do anyway.

Where else would you see minor celebrities go further and further right to the point Thatcher would balk?

Aaaaand there it is. Just another right wing colonialist who thinks that the only way to deal with the uppity Irish and Arabs is to bomb them back into their place. She doesn’t give a shit about Corbyn or antisemitism, it’s always about Rule Britannia pic.twitter.com/2NDPUeIgJF

— Odrán 🦅 (@odranwaldo) November 21, 2019

Can't be battered home how extreme a position it is to hold in 2019 that the IRA shouldn't have been negotiated with. It's to the right of Thatcher, who floated the idea of forcibly moving all catholics to the republic, even. There would be no GFA without negotiating with the RA.

— Odrán 🦅 (@odranwaldo) November 21, 2019

I mean as someone whose formative online years were spent on LJ

Not gonna lie, I had to blink twice and think about this for a while

This is a manifesto of hope. A manifesto that will bring real change. A manifesto full of popular policies that the political establishment has blocked for a generation. Those policies are fully costed, with no tax increases for 95% of taxpayers.

Over the next three weeks, the most powerful people in Britain and their supporters are going to tell you that everything in this manifesto is impossible. That it’s too much for you. Because they don’t want real change. Why would they? The system is working just fine for them. It’s rigged in their favour.

But it’s not working for you. If your wages never seem to go up and your bills never seem to go down, if your public services only seem to get worse, despite the heroic efforts of those who work in them, then it’s not working for you ...

The US president who led his country out of the Great Depression, President Franklin Roosevelt, had to take on the rich and powerful in America to do it. That’s why he said: “They are unanimous in their hate for me, and I welcome their hatred.”

He knew that when you’re serious about real change, those who profit from a rigged system, who squirrel away the wealth created by millions of people, won’t give up without a fight.

So I accept the implacable opposition and hostility of the rich and powerful is inevitable.

I accept the opposition of the billionaires because we will make those at the top pay their fair share of tax to help fund world-class public services for you. That’s real change.

I accept the hostility of the bad bosses paying poverty pay because we will give Britain a pay rise, starting with a real living wage of at least £10 an hour, including for young workers. That’s real change.

I accept the implacable opposition of the dodgy landlords because we’ll build a million homes, empower tenants and control rents. That’s real change.

I accept the hostility of the big polluters because we will make sure they pay their fair share of the costs of their destruction, create huge numbers of climate jobs and build the healthy, green economy of the future. That’s real change.

I accept the fierce opposition of the giant healthcare corporations because we will stop them sucking out profits from our NHS. That’s real change.

I accept the hostility of the privatised utilities companies because we will stop their great rip-off by bringing rail, mail, water and energy into public ownership and running them for the people. That’s real change.

And here’s a brand new one: I accept the implacable opposition of the private internet providers because we’re going to give you the very fastest full fibre broadband for free. That’s real change.

I see Jess Phillips was on Good Morning Britain today saying she didn’t think a Labour government could deliver on its manifesto promises? The Conservatives have already used the clip on their sites.

i think it's an old clip?

i mean from several years ago

invoking FDR is good imo, but taking on big business elites was made an easier job for him as a very rwealthy plutocrat from the main US power elite family of the era. JC has hell on in this neo-lib shithole, again.

The banner on the video I saw suggests otherwise, but I’m not willing to fire up ITV hub lol

yes i haven't actually, like, *checked* myself either, i'm just repeating what MR seamus milne tells me to say usually reliable commentators have said

but I...

I can't believe a self promoting celeb like Jess would be such an easy establishment shill after seeing her gritty performances in parliament

Hm

Here's the original video: https://t.co/drso0JAjam

— Sam 'Communism'?🌹 (@samfoster99) November 21, 2019

Ok, sorry to mark, wow they just reskinned that video, cool cool cool. Not that she should be giving them this stuff anyway.

People who bang on about Corbyn the DiViSiVe FiGuRe are always way more fixated on him as an individual than the supposed cultists who merely think that fixing the housing crisis, taxing corporations and ending austerity would be good not bad

invoking FDR is good imo

100%. And more overtly too, this guy could still come on in the last 10 mins even at 137

animatronics has come a long way

c'mon the electorate love disabled historical characters!

seamus was wrong i was wrong too, it's not from several years ago it's from early october when her stupid book came out

So just to recap, in the last 28 hours, the Conservatives:
1. Changed their Twitter profile to look like a factchecker
2. Accused a Channel 4 reporter of asking "left-wing" questions
3. Banned The Mirror from their battle bus
This is... not good

— Rowland Manthorpe (@rowlsmanthorpe) November 21, 2019

+ Jess P fakery and it's definitely a strategy to mislead across social media -- and to do so openly!

oh god in the early period of the Boris regime, just when you are waiting to die thinking things can't get any better. The series the bbc have commissioned from one of her stupid books will start.

The campaign has odd reminders of May but the social media strategy is very much new...probably because May chose not to go online, like DL xp

aye tories are reluctant to go online, it's hard to find respectable tory spheres where the discourse is refined and civil apparently

Grimsby looks like it will turn blue:

Usual caveats apply, but... wow. If replicated on the night then Labour are in deep trouble all over the country https://t.co/ymgvGJ5GEd

— Dom Walsh (@DomWalsh13) November 21, 2019

MGGA!

The big caveat...Grimsby is not the country.

There are bunch of Labour seats that will go blue and vice versa an GG is one place where the BXP vote will hurt Labour more than Tories. Not convinced there are enough like it to rule out Labour closing the gap.

I really need to see more constituency polling..

Look North was live from Grimsby last night but i don't really remember what the general vibe was. it's hardcore Brexitland anyway, white and isolated af

Page 98 of the Labour Manifesto: 'We will immediately suspend the sale of arms to Saudi Arabia for use in Yemen and to Israel for arms used in violation of the human rights of Palestinian civilians, and conduct a root-and-branch reform of our arms exports regime' 👍

— Chris Rossdale (@crossdale) November 21, 2019

Not surprising that a 2nd ref with option to remain is a stitch up to Brexit heartlands

On immigration Labour's manifesto promises to:
-scrap the 2014 Immigration Act,
-compensate victims of the Windrush scandal
-end indefinite detention and review alternatives to detention centres

— Maya Goodfellow (@MayaGoodfellow) November 21, 2019

Labour's manifesto promises to "give full voting rights to all
UK residents" 🙌🙌

— Maya Goodfellow (@MayaGoodfellow) November 21, 2019

We're so far down the rabbit hole now, but it blows my mind that THIS GOVERNMENT seized the assets of countless BAME British citizens who had been here almost all their lives, froze their legal documents then deported them to foreign countries to die & barely anyone mentions it. https://t.co/rzSt2sqXCc

— Ally Fogg (@AllyFogg) November 21, 2019

Some seats worth looking at polling for may be Batley & Spen, Cardiff West, Swansea West, Durham, Huddersfield and Torfaen. Improbable gains for the Tories but not impossible so if they're making significant inroads in those places that's bad.

Okay now what the hell

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/21/tory-party-tweets-link-to-fake-labour-manifesto-site

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