Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

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xp that seems very prescriptivist. possibly bullying... surely the idea of democracy is we can make our own choices without being called names?

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:27 (six years ago)

I agree with A 98% and B 2%, therefore despite being a lifelong A I will be voting B this time as I cannot in good conscience vote for A. Rinse and repeat

anvil, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:28 (six years ago)

Wrong, try again. xp

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:28 (six years ago)

of UK democracy is tribal and adversarial, deal wid it melt!

calzino, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:29 (six years ago)

of course

calzino, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:29 (six years ago)

surely the idea of democracy is we can make our own choices without being called names?

no no this was the idea of the internet

nashwan, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:30 (six years ago)

This is correct I am bullying you right now, it is part of a wider program to see if we can suppress potential Labour votes through a concerted online bullying campaign. I take no pleasure in this but I have just put £50 on a Conservative/LibDem coalition at 40-1 and every vote counts

anvil, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:31 (six years ago)

I agree with A 98% and B 2%, therefore despite being a lifelong A I will be voting B this time as I cannot in good conscience vote for A. Rinse and repeat

― anvil, Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:28 AM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

None of this is the case though.

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:31 (six years ago)

exactly (they don't really believe in the 98% at all that's just for public consumption)

anvil, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:32 (six years ago)

does this person really even exist?

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:34 (six years ago)

chairman alph wrong i think calling r!ley a melt = we need a clearer shorthand for bad-faith single-issue campaigner radicalised on-line into leveraging a minor sleb platform for bigoted ends

(by same token l!neh4n also very much not a melt)

mark s, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:34 (six years ago)

Which of you actually invented this use of the word "melt"? I have never seen it used anywhere other than this thread and its antecedents, and I speak as somebody who is on Twitter quite often!

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:35 (six years ago)

it's common as dogshit on lefty twitter

calzino, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:36 (six years ago)

ah the lefty sphere

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:36 (six years ago)

it arrived in the discourse via bastani i believe

it possibly has long-established scouse antecedents, i live in hackney and cannot confirm this

mark s, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:37 (six years ago)

See this is why we're gonna need re-education camps

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:37 (six years ago)

They exist, just down the street from online lefty spheres. Number 27a, Internet. We must never name names though, we must be as vague as possible,

anvil, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:38 (six years ago)

Yeah she isn't, but RR was v much on DL's "I am not supporting Boris but Corbyn is terrible because of something" schtick. Where they depart is DL has all of sorts *v serious bullshit concerns* whereas RR is single issue. xps to mark

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:39 (six years ago)

the thoughtcrime that sent me to the camp: i was prematurely very online

mark s, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:39 (six years ago)

Admittedly I had a bruising encounter with a momentum thug in an online lefty sphere yesterday so even a bully such as myself can come a cropper in the discourse from time to time

anvil, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:39 (six years ago)

3 weeks to D Day and we're gonna refight the Corbyn He Bad Man wars, classic.

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:42 (six years ago)

We have talked about the origins of melt in another politics thread. It's quite obscure online left twitter accounts (one of which is long gone) then iirc Dawn Forster wrote it up.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:43 (six years ago)

Friday the 13th is the day I will shit post like never before

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:44 (six years ago)

Nuke Twitter.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:44 (six years ago)

Don't like the word 'melt' and hate how everything itt revolves around Twitter tbh.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:46 (six years ago)

I think “melt” is very much part football twitter? I associate it more with Matt Zarb-Cousin, but I don’t think you see it as much in its natural habitat anymore since it’s more mainstream. See also “gammon”.

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/slugs-melts-inside-language-culture-corbynite-left-523364

gyac, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:46 (six years ago)

xp point taken tbh but it’s where a lot of things are happening!

gyac, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:47 (six years ago)

To avoid confusion, melts have no power. Slugs have power and hate it when the public salt them for it.

santa clause four (suzy), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:48 (six years ago)

...and a lot of shite is happening.

Wee Eck up in court just in time to put a spoke in the SNP campaign and wipe the smirk off Sturgeon's coupon.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:48 (six years ago)

Rachel Riley's tunnel vision stalkery radicalism is sure something. I'm not sure she'll turn into K H0pkins like some are commenting, but her lack of awareness to filter out nazi/bigot content - as long as it is anti-Corbyn is what might finish her career off at some point.

calzino, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:48 (six years ago)

Riley lives in an Essex Tory seat that got turned into a marginal two years ago with over double the Labour voters it had in 2010. It will probably have a very '97 style outcome there (when it was a new seat but Tories took it by a few thousand votes). Tough times for her though sure.

nashwan, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:49 (six years ago)

I saw a group of progressive activists virtue signalling recently and went over to ask for directions. They were friendly at first until one of them noticed a couple of legitimate concerns I had in my bag. They expressed annoyance that I had detoured from groupthink and was showing signs of independent thought. I fought back, "bro, I'm just here for the marketplace of ideas, I'm all about ideas" I said.

It did not go down well, the masks slipped, Momentum thugs began to arrive, I panicked, pushing my free speech down further into my bag in case they saw it and attempted to suppress it. I could maybe handle these momentum thugs, but surely it was only a matter of time before they called in Antifa, they could suppress independent thought in a flash, I was in serious danger of deselection. I couldn't believe it, a climate of fear began to emerge.

"The left eat their own, the left eat their own" I began to think about all the warnings I had been given, how wrong I had been to dismiss them so easily. They were going to cancel me, over this? a couple of legitamate concerns? I couldn't believe it...

anvil, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:49 (six years ago)

This is the reality of life in an online lefty sphere. you may think I exaggerate but its serious out there

anvil, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:50 (six years ago)

There’s even a song about melts (RIP the original account which had a great video)

Have you heard ‘I Am A Melt’ by Reel Politik on #SoundCloud? #np https://t.co/RuE8HM3qYP

— TheRealJohnSeal (@TheRealJohnSeal) April 28, 2018

gyac, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:51 (six years ago)

xp I’m afraaaaaaaaid that is the nature of the hard left

gyac, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:51 (six years ago)

To avoid confusion, melts have no power. Slugs have power and hate it when the public salt them for it.

― santa clause four (suzy), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:48 (thirteen seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol remember when some wasteman tried to make out that calling ppl 'slug' and 'melt' were incitements to genocide

Appleman Appears: 20/2/2020. Whose Cider You On? (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:51 (six years ago)

twitter is useful for me bcz i do need to know roughly what's going on but i never read newspapers or watch TV (they're bad not good, way worse than twitter, quit them and end them*)

these threads used also to serve that purpose but now they're mainly filled with bits of twitter lol, deems on point it turns out, wow at that

i will never log off

mark s, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:52 (six years ago)

Anvil if you want to write fiction this is the place to share your efforts:

ILB Writing Club

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:53 (six years ago)

I think melt is fine. It cuts down the amount of guttermouthed sweary slurs I use against other people and politicians, it makes the discourse more refined and civil!

calzino, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:53 (six years ago)

In July 2012 the only thing melting was our hearts as Guy Garvey gishgalloped over the austere sand to take Long Jump gold. Now look.

nashwan, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:54 (six years ago)

the golden age

calzino, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:55 (six years ago)

twitter is useful for me bcz i do need to know roughly what's going on but i never read newspapers or watch TV (they're bad not good, way worse than twitter, quit them and end them*)

+1

Appleman Appears: 20/2/2020. Whose Cider You On? (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:55 (six years ago)

Being called a melt is about as offensive as being called a wally.

Matt DC, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:55 (six years ago)

"these threads used also to serve that purpose but now they're mainly filled with bits of twitter lol"

Funny you should say this a day after someone comes in saying "I don't know anything not been on twitter forever but this is why I think Corbyn is terrible"

Basically twitter is good.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:55 (six years ago)

Prefer gishgalloper to melt tbh.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:55 (six years ago)

ok boomer

mark s, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:56 (six years ago)

You people.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:57 (six years ago)

Being called a melt is about as offensive as being called a wally.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:55 (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

sobering tbh. Will reconsider my usage of this term

Appleman Appears: 20/2/2020. Whose Cider You On? (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:58 (six years ago)

twitter is useful for me bcz i do need to know roughly what's going on but i never read newspapers or watch TV (they're bad not good, way worse than twitter, quit them and end them*)

these threads used also to serve that purpose but now they're mainly filled with bits of twitter lol, deems on point it turns out, wow at that

i will never log off


I mean as someone whose formative online years were spent on LJ and who still prefers that format, I really resent the space twitter has taken up in politics, but it’s where everything happens and is just easier for sourcing clips and quotes. I don’t even tweet myself, but it’s how I keep up with what’s going on outside what’s reported on the news and I don’t read papers either.

Where else would you see Peston get bodied in his replies so deservedly?

I always assumed that if there were another hung parliament, the LibDems would swallow their pride and find a way to allow Corbyn into 10 Downing St. I may have been wrong. Here is why. https://t.co/wqzA5886jT

— Robert Peston (@Peston) November 21, 2019

gyac, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:59 (six years ago)

I think it was, as Gyac said, Matt Zarb-Cousin who introduced this word to politics?

But I wasn't there at the time.

the pinefox, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:59 (six years ago)


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