Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

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You try telling that to Coral, but yes.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Thursday, 21 November 2019 07:59 (six years ago)

A Tory / Lib Dem coalition is very unlikely, imo. A Tory / Lib Dem confidence and supply situation is not.

Yes, this is the only thing that gives me pause, it probably has to be an actual coalition to win and they won't pay out on confidence and supply, still worth £20 though (Bet365 apparently have it at 40-1 but can't see it on the site)

anvil, Thursday, 21 November 2019 07:59 (six years ago)

This was always going to happen but it's good that the options have become much more explicit.

Vote Lib Dem and they'll try to secure a choice between Johnson's deal and remain. Vote Labour for a guaranteed choice between Corbyn's deal and remain. idk how Lib Dem campaigners are going to sell that on the doorstep but good luck.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Thursday, 21 November 2019 08:15 (six years ago)

If they can sell nuking Jan Mayen or The Maldives to show who's boss and that women are strong they probably have it covered

anvil, Thursday, 21 November 2019 08:18 (six years ago)

you can have a referendum with the LDs, but the price is continued tory government

or you can have a referendum with labour, and they’ll throw in a big bag of sweeties too

hard choice

||||||||, Thursday, 21 November 2019 09:44 (six years ago)

Yesterday's melt = Dog Latin

*Wakes up*

Today's melt = a countdown presenter

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 November 2019 09:50 (six years ago)

i wonder if that countdown theme is a bit triggery for Corbyn. He sure has a determined stalker there.

calzino, Thursday, 21 November 2019 09:53 (six years ago)

she obv knows a link from the daily mail on ANC history is going to be completely A+ journalism

calzino, Thursday, 21 November 2019 09:58 (six years ago)

you can have a referendum with the LDs, but the price is continued tory government

or you can have a referendum with labour, and they’ll throw in a big bag of sweeties too

hard choice

― ||||||||, Thursday, 21 November 2019 09:44 (eleven minutes ago) link

does no-one remember the A/V referendum fiasco lol. If a referendum happens on those terms, Remain will lose by a bigger margin than in 2016.

If a new referendum is between a labour negotiated baby shit soft brexit, and remain, then the issue is substantially won whatever the outcome.

Appleman Appears: 20/2/2020. Whose Cider You On? (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:00 (six years ago)

What's a melt? Sounds like something out of a 90s Guy Ritchie film, 'Shut it you MELT!'

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:03 (six years ago)

no time to split hairs here, it you i'm afraid, DL.

calzino, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:04 (six years ago)

*shrug emoji*

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:08 (six years ago)

Riley and Linehan as real-time examples of radicalisation online is grimly fascinating.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:11 (six years ago)

Graham Linehan? What's he saying?

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:15 (six years ago)

What's a melt? Sounds like something out of a 90s Guy Ritchie film, 'Shut it you MELT!'

I've wondered this myself, not really sure, but my guess is something along lines of

"I agree with Labour policies on just about everything but I can't in good conscience bring myself to support them for ___"

(where as soon as ___ is resolved, there will be another ___)

anvil, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:16 (six years ago)

xp just went on Twitter for the first time in fucking years.. jesus

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:18 (six years ago)

DL have you been in a cave these past two years?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:19 (six years ago)

xp oh good you can catch up

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:19 (six years ago)

no wait, is it

"I didn't leave Labour, Labour left me"

that seems to be more of an American one though, "I didn't leave the left, the left left me"

or "Labour isn't recognisable to me anymore", "The left of today isn't the left I grew up with"

anvil, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:19 (six years ago)

xxxp so 'round here you have to agree with everything Labour say or you're a 'melt'. love it

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:20 (six years ago)

*DL next year as the Tories decimate whatever is left* Lab was alright actually.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:20 (six years ago)

*sigh*

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:22 (six years ago)

it's all about you isn't it?

calzino, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:23 (six years ago)

did i say it was?

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:23 (six years ago)

xxxp so 'round here you have to agree with everything Labour say or you're a 'melt'. love it

close, but not quite, try this

MELT

i) "Agrees with everything think Labour says except for reason x", which means they will vote for someone else. Labour everywhere except ballot box

NOT A MELT

i) disagrees with some Labour things, including some publicly, but makes a choice to vote Labour
ii) A Lib Democrat voter who has never pretended otherwise
iii) A Conservative
iv) A non voter

anvil, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:24 (six years ago)

Anyway I dislike the term, im just going off what they were saying in online lefty spheres which shall remain unidentified for obvious reasons

anvil, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:26 (six years ago)

xp that seems very prescriptivist. possibly bullying... surely the idea of democracy is we can make our own choices without being called names?

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:27 (six years ago)

I agree with A 98% and B 2%, therefore despite being a lifelong A I will be voting B this time as I cannot in good conscience vote for A. Rinse and repeat

anvil, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:28 (six years ago)

Wrong, try again. xp

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:28 (six years ago)

of UK democracy is tribal and adversarial, deal wid it melt!

calzino, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:29 (six years ago)

of course

calzino, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:29 (six years ago)

surely the idea of democracy is we can make our own choices without being called names?

no no this was the idea of the internet

nashwan, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:30 (six years ago)

This is correct I am bullying you right now, it is part of a wider program to see if we can suppress potential Labour votes through a concerted online bullying campaign. I take no pleasure in this but I have just put £50 on a Conservative/LibDem coalition at 40-1 and every vote counts

anvil, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:31 (six years ago)

I agree with A 98% and B 2%, therefore despite being a lifelong A I will be voting B this time as I cannot in good conscience vote for A. Rinse and repeat

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None of this is the case though.

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:31 (six years ago)

exactly (they don't really believe in the 98% at all that's just for public consumption)

anvil, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:32 (six years ago)

does this person really even exist?

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:34 (six years ago)

chairman alph wrong i think calling r!ley a melt = we need a clearer shorthand for bad-faith single-issue campaigner radicalised on-line into leveraging a minor sleb platform for bigoted ends

(by same token l!neh4n also very much not a melt)

mark s, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:34 (six years ago)

Which of you actually invented this use of the word "melt"? I have never seen it used anywhere other than this thread and its antecedents, and I speak as somebody who is on Twitter quite often!

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:35 (six years ago)

it's common as dogshit on lefty twitter

calzino, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:36 (six years ago)

ah the lefty sphere

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:36 (six years ago)

it arrived in the discourse via bastani i believe

it possibly has long-established scouse antecedents, i live in hackney and cannot confirm this

mark s, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:37 (six years ago)

See this is why we're gonna need re-education camps

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:37 (six years ago)

They exist, just down the street from online lefty spheres. Number 27a, Internet. We must never name names though, we must be as vague as possible,

anvil, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:38 (six years ago)

Yeah she isn't, but RR was v much on DL's "I am not supporting Boris but Corbyn is terrible because of something" schtick. Where they depart is DL has all of sorts *v serious bullshit concerns* whereas RR is single issue. xps to mark

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:39 (six years ago)

the thoughtcrime that sent me to the camp: i was prematurely very online

mark s, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:39 (six years ago)

Admittedly I had a bruising encounter with a momentum thug in an online lefty sphere yesterday so even a bully such as myself can come a cropper in the discourse from time to time

anvil, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:39 (six years ago)

3 weeks to D Day and we're gonna refight the Corbyn He Bad Man wars, classic.

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:42 (six years ago)

We have talked about the origins of melt in another politics thread. It's quite obscure online left twitter accounts (one of which is long gone) then iirc Dawn Forster wrote it up.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:43 (six years ago)

Friday the 13th is the day I will shit post like never before

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:44 (six years ago)

Nuke Twitter.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:44 (six years ago)


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