US Politics, November 2019: These people are truly sick.

how is this still going on

I think it just ended

Story of my life

Yeah Nunes thing was his end statement . They're doing 2 hearings per day. Which means watching it live on this side of the Atlantic is going on pretty late.
Hope it is building to something for people though.
Caught it on CNN where one of the panel was talking about favourable polling for GOP In Wisconsin. do Hope that is going to fade as things are going on. BUt seems like there is no end of spin for certain people.

Didn't hear what mahoney asked after he asked Hale where he was from. Presumably wasn't do you like the Stooges or something.

Now speaking of Devin.

Lev Parnas, an indicted associate of Rudy Giuliani, helped arrange meetings and calls in Europe for Rep. Devin Nunes in 2018, Parnas' lawyer told The Daily Beast. https://t.co/YCn7QWEwi7

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) November 21, 2019

god, put that wrinkled muppet away for good

Stevolende do you have access to c-span.org? it's the best way to view all of this imo

Not sure. Doesn't seem to be on my TV unless it's in obscure reaches of channels.

PBS has most of it on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPeccLkvpt0&list=PLgawtcOBBjr_sIBQQYpNZxagChHjYSizH

huh, that didn't work ... try this: https://youtu.be/jPeccLkvpt0

xp I've only watched it on my laptop. It's great

why was sondland so smug? he contradicted his past testimony i thought

he's a very rich guy who just got away with crossing the world's 'most powerful man'

I'm guessing Sondland consulted with a decent lawyer who laid out the consequences of lying, as suffered by a half dozen Trump associates during the Mueller investigation, and on advice of counsel is now counting on two things to soften any possible charge he might receive for his earlier evasion/perjury -- that he is now being very helpful through his decision to (mostly) come clean with the Congress, and that he appears to be a patsy and a small fish who had little idea what was really up (an appearance he is playing up as hard as he can).

Yeah he seems (or wants to seem) like a good natured doofus who got in over his head in his paid-for position, but is now trying to help the Dems. I felt a momentary twinge of sympathy when Maloney jabbed him, but then remembered he’s a rich, lying Trump supporter.

he's not trying to help the democrats, he is just trying to weasel out of his dishonest testimony

he's a creep

he doesn't belong here

nobody tries to help Democrats, not even the Democrats

a guardian angel

it's the usual Republican M.O. - I am only fiercely loyal until my own hide is in trouble, and then I will sell you and my entire family out if that's what it takes.

be better if Schiff was making masked phone calls to these goons and saying the other person ratted on them and playing them against each other

idk if it's only republicans who are cowardly like that

it's obv not ONLY Republicans, but it is a staple trademark of them.

one thing Republicans do NOT do, especially Trump donors, is help the enemy UNLESS it is the only option to save their own hide. so there is no altruism beyond what Sondland is doing. he didn't grow a conscience.

so that means if people feel like the heat lamps are on them they will bail on trump, which is good

yep. just gotta keep the heat turned up.

I'm really not sure I understand how Sondland could not be in possession of ANY documents relating to this - notes, emails, texts, phone conversations, dates, etc, what does that even mean?

- he’s lying & won’t enter evidence that firmly implicates himself

or

- he’s a multimillionaire cuntbag w/ no history of or interest in public service and did not take any single element of his job seriously

either works, both are probably true

he has two notebooks, one that says "Show House Committee" and the other "No Show House Committee". but he can't tell which is which due to his shit handwriting

there must be emails that can be subpoenaed.

oh I'm sure he illegally got rid of those

natch

New from me + @dylanbyers:

Mark Zuckerberg had a secret dinner with Donald Trump and Peter Thiel last month, @NBCNews has learnedhttps://t.co/6j0i0NNd3o

— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) November 21, 2019

gross

Arsenic pudding hopefully.

Slow acting

I overheard a coworker say that the Dems have no case, it’s just mind boggling to bump into someone who might think that outside of a diner.

- he’s a multimillionaire cuntbag w/ no history of or interest in public service and did not take any single element of his job seriously

Pretty lol how Trump didn't realise that one of the things a superrich nihilist would not give a fuck about, is bothering to make up shit to defend the boss

I believe Sondland has documents but the Trump administration won’t release them.

Is anybody else from the diplomatic service voicing concern/disgust about the continued employment of Sondland as a foreign ambassador. Is there any backlash? Or is the environment right for such a thing?

it seems preposterous that this guy is still the us ambassador to the EU

however, there is a lot of preposterosity in this administration

Could see that trying to maintain some level of credibility for the witness might be of use. So immediately removing him from the role might not work for using his testimony well. But since this is a t crony his ability to maintain his own credibility might be compromised.

Dr. Fiona Hill has released her opening statement, @mkraju reports.

“Based on questions and statements I have heard, some of you on this committee appear to believe that Russia and its security services did not conduct a campaign against our country...

— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) November 21, 2019

good morning!

Stevolende at 5:12 21 Nov 19

Is anybody else from the diplomatic service voicing concern/disgust about the continued employment of Sondland as a foreign ambassador. Is there any backlash? Or is the environment right for such a thing?

I mean if they axe him the job will just go to Jon Voight or Larry the Cable Guy

don't front on my boy Chuck Woolery

Amen to this! This bullshit idea that Ukraine had any interest, time or resources to fuck with our elections is really stupid and obvious Russian propaganda.

One other obvious thing someone else observed is that if Ukraine and its leadership was so corrupt and interfered in the 2016 elections ... why would you task or trust them to conduct an investigation into corruption in the first place?

still pissed that Andrew WK was denied an ambassadorship

especially given the fact that this chucklehead got in

Amen to this! This bullshit idea that Ukraine had any interest,time or resources to fuck with our elections is really stupid and obvious Russian propaganda.

This isn't really true. The Poroshenko government had a strong reason for wanting to prevent a key advisor to Yanukovich from becoming the right-hand-man of the US president. They had the interest, time and resources and the black ledger that took Manafort down is still shrouded in a certain amount of mystery. That's different from saying that the Democrats actively worked to solicit interference.

you must be a russian agent