Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

Hopefully the 'leave' option will be soft as baby shit brexit in name only anyway

have JC lead the remain campaign - he’s electorally popular ! this basic truth is so often omitted

labour polled 40% at the last GE. do people not find it suspicious that 40% of the electorate have just been... memoryholed (barely represented in media, rarely vox popped etc)

I agree, but I fail to see how Corbyn's official stance doesn't tie into this.

Because Corbyn is old enough to remember that it worked for Harold Wilson perhaps?

4390859034854d chess, I see.

Have literally ANY labour mp lead the remain campaign under “you’ll never have to hear about this shit again and we will pass a law to memoryhole this waste of time and money”, good Friday agreement style landslide

Corbyn leading either campaign could be counterproductive if people use it as a protest vote against him personally.

true, I just want to boil piss

Can we take a moment to wonder if any green party members and supporters are reassessing their party's electoral pact with the lib dems

hate the glib dems, but if you’re in a constituency where it’s basically a choice of yellow or blue, then I’d probably vote LD. An electoral pact does not mean you support all of their policies, it’s just a way of avoiding the worse of two evils (tight contest though imo). Obviously the green’s preferred solution to this is PR but in the absence of that what are you gonna do?

Jon Lansman comes out swinging

https://www.thejc.com/comment/comment/focusing-only-on-labour-whitewashes-the-antisemitism-and-racism-of-other-parties-1.493397

nickb otm. the tories must be destroyed.

gyac is correct, so many Cameron-hating Tories voted Leave to fuck him up (and said so at the time).

i keep not posting this because feel it drags over well worn ground and it’s a bit *do you see* (sorry) but...

anti-semitism is a problem across society and has so many routes in and expressions that it can be seen, with some justification, in a lot of places (how does a long-standing distaste for “new money” come out of a distrust of “money without land” to take one of multitudes of instances?); historical symbolism, barely understood fabricated resentments buried as cultural distaste, or expressed via racism, snobbery, aesthetic disgust, and cultural insularity - so many areas carry the whiff of it. (many of these are vehicles for general racism and are not confined to anti-semitism of course). it takes different forms on the left and right and in many other social, political, media and psychological spaces. it is present across society and as has been seen with some recent tory candidate holocaust deniers it is present across parties.

it has fucking weird and also innocuous registers; for every loony going through high finance conspiracy, there’s a Kingsley Amis watching the credits of a film and saying “there’s another one”.

this report, (summary here) which has been posted a few times, that looks at how to examine anti-semitic sentiment in contemporary societies, is really useful i think.

xp to the lansman post by gyac and the other AS discussion points.

4390859034854d chess, I see.

Did you read what I posted?

I wasn't responding to you in particular.

state of Gove here, genuinely loled at WITH YOUR OWN MOUTH

One the best interviews I've seen during this campaign from @C4Ciaran. Relentless, unflustered forensic questioning https://t.co/bbOT0D6YBZ

— Ian Dunt (@IanDunt) November 20, 2019

I wasn't responding to you in particular.

Obviously not.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/alexwickham/lib-dems-candidate-antisemitism

Well this is timely.

antisemitism is so embedded in society that I don’t know how you could usefully combat it without educating properly on it (and racism in general) in schools.

hate the glib dems, but if you’re in a constituency where it’s basically a choice of yellow or blue, then I’d probably vote LD.

Mmmm. I'd hope people aren't overestimating the number of such constituencies that exist, though. And the aggregate labour vote might prove important in a hung parliament jockeying situation.

An electoral pact does not mean you support all of their policies, it’s just a way of avoiding the worse of two evils (tight contest though imo).

The electoral pact is a transparently cynical attempt by the lib dems to try and peel off green and green-sympathetic voters. They shouldn't fall for it. Hopefully Swinson's fuckin Jack D. Ripper turn will concentrate a few minds.

in the AS, feel i need to give full context to the KA piece, and also because i think it’s a powerful piece of writing, giving weight to anti-semitism, which often feels trivialised by its use as a toxic political ping-pong ball. (by martin amis i’m afraid but Experience is genuinely good)


–. . . What’s it like being mildly anti-Semitic?
–It’s all right.
–No. What’s it feel like being mildly anti-Semitic? Describe it.

..

– Hi, Dad, I said, and we embraced.–. . . What’s that you’re reading? Some *Jew*? I turned my back on him and kept it turned. The book referred to was *If This Is a Man*, by Primo Levi . . . Not many months earlier my novel about the Holocaust, *Time’s Arrow*, had appeared, and I had been accused of anti-Semitism. What I didn’t want was another syllable of loose talk on this subject. So as I fixed my father’s drink, the gin, the white onions, I kept my head down and said something like:

Actually I was going to tell you about it. A really clinching thing about sex difference. When the Fascist Militia rounded him up he was taken to a huge detention camp, in Italy, in the north, I think. Then the Jews were singled out and told that they would be deported to Auschwitz the next day. The men all spent that last night drinking and fucking and fighting. The women all spent it washing their children and their children’s clothes and preparing meals. And, he writes, something like–when the sun came up, like an ally of our enemy, the barbed wire around the camp was full of children’s washing hung out in the wind to dry.

At last I turned with the drink in my hand. And my first thought was to reach for a kitchen towel. How had he had time to cry so much? His motionless face was a mask of unattended tears. He said steadily,

– That’s one thing I feel more and more as I get older. Let’s *not* round up the women and the children. Let’s *not* go over the hill and fuck up the people in the next town along. Let’s not do any of that ever again.

whoops missed out his initial response to MA’s question about what it feels like.

–What’s it feel like? Well. Very mild, as you say. If I’m watching the end of some new arts programme I might notice the Jewish names in the credits and think, Ah, there’s another one. Or: Oh I see. There’s another one.

no doubt, knowing the discourse and how deeply unserious many (most) people are about genuinely dealing with antisemitism as the abhorrence it is, we will move seamlessly from "labour suspending so many people due to AS displays the extent of its problem" to the "conservatives suspending so many people shows how seriously they are taking this"

Your political fashion correspondent is here to say Jo Swinson jogs on while wearing fashy New Balance trainers in lens-flare teal’n’orange. 🤢

hahahshahahaha

Ed Davey tells @afneil that the most likely election result is a Tory minority government. He then says Lib Dems would use that to demand a 2nd referendum. What’s going on? Is anyone watching this shit?!? #andrewneilshow pic.twitter.com/QT4c96DlKT

— William Kedjanyi (@KeejayOV2) November 20, 2019

jesus

jo swinson really was... the /best/ candidate

Legit I was thinking earlier “can’t believe they chose someone less likely than Ed Davey” and then...


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJ1xO7nXkAUEWIb?format=jpg&name=large
Sobel and Lewis together on the campaign trail and Sobel wearing a trans day of remembrance badge, you love to see it

SIR Ed Davey to you, mate.

give us a 2nd ref or the squirrel get's it - is a marked contrast from when Jo was claiming she could win a majority based on EU election voting results and her ability to nod a lot.

Vote Lib Dem and we'll be a moderating force on the Tories, just not in a coalition, is probably the pitch that works best for them in their winnable seats.

Being a piss Tory is a helluva drug

Look let them be clear the Lib Dems are the only party who can double their seat count at this election. These mugs are no lads.

not sure it has received any coverage in the UK press but scottish labour MSP jenny marra and SNP MSP joan mcalpine invited terfs to speak at holyrood on international trans day of remembrance. absolutely wretched & reprehensible behaviour

classy

At least they’re not pretending they can win 200 seats anymore

xxp Joan m is fucking awful, the SNP (and Ch3rry esp) absolutely dire on this

Absolutely delusional for anyone to believe the Tories would bite at that even assuming the LibDems are the only party holding the balance of power.

Alan Moore has something important to ask of you, in the runup to #GeneralElection19 pic.twitter.com/8snC5Wf0YB

— Leah Moore (@leahmoore) November 20, 2019

lindelof or gtfo

he's no Leo Baxendale

you’re both wrong & Alan Moore is right

xxp Joan m is fucking awful, the SNP (and Ch3rry esp) absolutely dire on this

― gyac, Wednesday, November 20, 2019 12:37 PM (thirty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

bad enough if it were just msp arseholes, but lots of high profile/follower nats on twitter are terfy also.

wings notably a horrible basturt

yep, thoroughly depressing

Alan Moore knows the score.

maybe, but someone remind him we did have snap GE in 2017 as well, which arguably was a consultation!

Melt alert: SMDH at the person in my timeline, whose dad brought Tony Blair into Labour and whose sister is one of the most powerful editors in UK publishing, complaining that because of everything to do with this election, he has never felt so disenfranchised in all his life.

Mate, go tell it to a rough sleeper once you’ve paused even five seconds to CYP.

just think how disabled voters felt in 2015. Voting for a party with the likes of Rachel Reeves saying they should hit these benefit scum harder than the tories. That is what you call disenfranchised or politically homeless as some would have it.