Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

oh, they ran out of glow for Jo

You've heard from Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn, now watch #ITVinterviews with @joswinson, @NicolaSturgeon, @Nigel_Farage and @sianberry - broadcast at 10pm.https://t.co/MtNtsEXhha pic.twitter.com/MuembWROut

— ITV News (@itvnews) November 19, 2019

Want to see a version where Cleverley just stands there blank faced for 10 hours

If Swindon had any self-respect she'd have told them to shove the also-rans show up their arse. Fortunately etc etc

only need a poll bump of +1 by end of this week to keep pace w/2017 campaign. numbers looked good after the debate, plus manifesto on thurs. keep pushing imo. activists are key

OMG possibly for the first time ever on British television I've just seen a Tory voter interviewed who said he might vote Labour.

xxxp
well at least afterwards Swinson get's some time to talk about soylent green bonds and bullying disabled people with one of her electoral pact buddies

xp yeah, might! Tory voters are much stickier than any other party, believe it when I see it, etc. Did he say why

“I was thinking of voting Brexit Party but then Boris went on about abolishing capitalism”

More Tories thought Corbyn did well in debate than Labour voters thinking the same of Johnson, according to ⁦@YouGov⁩. On that measure ⁦@jeremycorbyn⁩ won. #ITVDebate pic.twitter.com/9M6FMHiCe6

— Robert Peston (@Peston) November 19, 2019

Sigh yes

I’m sorry but Britain simply can’t risk Jeremy Corbyn and his radical policies like “what if Britain wasn’t a shithole run by cunts”

— pixelatedboat aka “mr tweets” (@pixelatedboat) November 19, 2019

Sad lol

xp yeah, might! Tory voters are much stickier than any other party, believe it when I see it, etc. Did he say why

I don't think he said but given that voters obviously do switch Tory from Labour, as well as vice versa, the fact that this is almost never represented in the British media is a thing.

expecting any further big policies in the labour manifesto? cancellation of student debt? that would shift a lot of votes you’d think

Abolition of the monarchy, re-education camps for working class Tory voters, free PS4 on the rates

Free PS plus for everyone so you can really put the free fibre to use

Might start trolling BT on Twitter

This is a good counter to what was said last night by me. It was really disgusting to watch Johnson but not joining in speaks to a different politics.

The thing is Corbyn basically can’t say this. What you get from Corbyn is a certain sort of high mindedness & him going for a personal attack on Johnson would have looked weird. https://t.co/33JJchNfKb pic.twitter.com/X7XwoO8gbw

— Tom Gann (@Tom_Gann) November 19, 2019

nah you’ve got to hold that fucker to account on the facts especially on the truthfulness issue - sacked for lying, devious use of prorogation etc, and it was frustrating that jamiroquai khruangbin didn’t bring that stuff up

And the summing up was JC saying what they would do and BJ saying what a terrible job JC would do...

Raab on radio just then not saying that they wouldn't pull another Fact Check UK scam the next time.

> jamiroquai khruangbin

Lol

https://spectatorblogs.imgix.net/files/2019/11/GettyImages-1187815397.jpg?auto=compress,enhance,format&crop=faces,entropy,edges&fit=crop&w=820&h=550
Johnny Mac at the guy in the audience who cheered abolishing capitalism

I get Tom Gann’s point, bc Corbyn gets the media screaming about him being “Stalinist” and “undemocratic” etc and although they can let on that they want to see him go in studs up, they’d all be clutching their pearls if he actually did so.

Generally I think using a politician's personal life to question their politics is nagl so I'm with Khruangbin on this one.

And the summing up was JC saying what they would do and BJ saying what a terrible job JC would do...

Raab on radio just then not saying that they wouldn't pull another Fact Check UK scam the next time.

So Corbyn is equating Jewish people with paedophilia by pronouncing Epstein's name in a certain way? I didn't think the old fool had the intellectual nous for this degree of subliminal racism. But there we are. https://t.co/2Ti2hpS5XD

— Dr Robert 'Rob' Zands PhD #BeKindOnline (@DrRobertZands) November 20, 2019

is Corbyn so nice and civilised though? He seems to have been working on his subliminal AS game.

Things he could have said, while keeping it ‘ball’ not ‘man’:

*’When I met The Queen, she was kind to me and I thought she was someone who really appreciates honesty.’

*‘We’ve all seen what happens when a PM takes sides on Brexit - two have resigned so far, and the third pulled a deal Parliament passed rather than subject it to further Parliamentary scrutiny or the amendments our constituents demanded. So clearly, we have to try a different approach. I’ll remain impartial, negotiate with the whole union in mind, and leave the choice to the voters.’

*’It’s my hope that after a few years of a Labour government, and the attention and investment I want to bring to Scotland, the Scottish appetite for Indyref 2 won’t be what it is right now.’

Et cetera...

So Corbyn is equating Jewish people with paedophilia by pronouncing Epstein's name in a certain way?

We're though the looking glass into la la land now.

Zands is a parody account a la Simon Hedges

David Baddiel is not a parody account though. Or is he?

beyond parody now

‘When I met The Queen, she was kind to me and I thought she was someone who really appreciates honesty.’

‘I had a very nice chat with the Queen’: @JeremyCorbyn sidesteps Paxman’s grilling on monarchy #BattleForNumber10 https://t.co/nM4aH1aePU pic.twitter.com/Wgut2VFdGa

— i newspaper (@theipaper) May 29, 2017

He also says 'isyoo' so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

Parody aside, his #AllLivesMatter routine, while technically correct, didn't strike me as a very good answer to the antisemitism question – there, too, he came across as deflective, using the topic as a springboard to score points on a broader terrain. Maybe I'm misunderstanding Britain's history, but in much of Western Europe, it is generally understood that antisemitism is a particularly grave instance of racism for obvious reasons and there is indeed a specific antisemitic archetype who is quick to point out that 'all racism is wrong', much like a certain strand of islamophobe who will argue that 'all discrimination is reprehensible, so why are we dwelling on this type at the expense of others?', etc. Once again, I don't think Corbyn himself is a bona fide antisemite, but as with the second ref, he had the opportunity to deliver a more persuasive response and unfortunately fell short.

Fwiw one of the few friends I've made since moving here is Jewish and she will be voting Green. I don't think Labour has done a very good job of trying to win over voters like her, who would otherwise very much like to see Corbyn's domestic policies implemented.

I’m a republican like you but a) anyone including Corbyn who takes an oath to HRH is automatically less so and b) finding a sideways method of saying BJ lies to the Queen as part of his daily diet of lies is OK by me.

I thought Corbyn was really good on AS. Just short and clear about what the party has done. Whether anyone agrees or not is another question, and as to whether anyone could be persuaded at this point when the likes of Williamson are not standing is another. Casting it as an 'All lives Matter' routine is just clumsy. If you want him to do better then... don't talk like that?

Yes, whether anyone agrees or not is a different matter, but to certain members of the Jewish community that's exactly what it sounded like.

*‘We’ve all seen what happens when a PM takes sides on Brexit - two have resigned so far, and the third pulled a deal Parliament passed rather than subject it to further Parliamentary scrutiny or the amendments our constituents demanded. So clearly, we have to try a different approach. I’ll remain impartial, negotiate with the whole union in mind, and leave the choice to the voters.’

This.

Idea for a Twitter account called Italian CCHQ. Tweets "Ohhh we cutta the benefits!" etc. Handful of retweets, Sun story calling for my hanging, loads of DMs from red angry men

— Italian CCHQ (@jmsclee) November 20, 2019

what's the matter with you hey! gotta no home and living in a tent

that's a spicy immigration policy

Plucked this gem out from a good thread of ppl doing the work:

The most surprising response I've had so far was from someone who would vote for Labour if Frank Field was leader.

— James Thomson (@jamesthomson68) November 20, 2019

was it rentoul? the undead are very tribal

lol xp was it John Rentoul

funniest bit of bullshit I ever heard (from a Labour councillor trying to get a favour out of me or appeal to my preformative leftism or whatever ) was "I have only ever met 3 people in politics I've truly trusted and liked. One is Gordon Brown, one is Ken Livingstone and the other is Jeremy Corbyn.. " badum tish

lol, performative leftism even

Not attacking Boris personally was good praxis. Peoples personal opinion of Boris isn't going to change any. Sticking to your own game and not getting sucked into that will do him good with older voters, particularly those expecting gulags to come firing out of his eyes.

I don't like civility generally and prefer sorting things out with fists but there's a time and a place, especially when the neutrals are in town

"I don't like civility generally and prefer sorting things out with fists"

lol!

can't spell neutral without ultra

me polling card's just come, it's like an early christmas present

(xps) regarding the 1st post in that twitter thread (good thread, thank you):

Been running the board the last couple of sessions; our vote holding up and also worth noting that the “I’M A LIFELONG LABOUR VOTER BUT WILL NEVER VOTE FOR CORBYN” types are never, ever down on the sheet as anything like lifelong Labour voters. Typical data is ?-?-D-A-A. https://t.co/nHIGhnDyqa

— Socialist Dad (@shirleymush) November 20, 2019

can someone explain what the "?-?-D-A-A" stand for? (did not vote? against??)

Are those taken from what the voter says to the canvasser, or from official collation of ballot papers, or from the people collecting numbers outside polling stations?

(just wondering. I've only been canvassed once and am never sure how polite or otherwise to be to the people in rosettes at polling stations - whether I'm supposed to talk to the one from the party I'm voting for, or whoever addresses me first, or whether I'm better off striding past them without letting any of them intercept me)

if they're wearing a blue or yellow rosette i just tell them politely to get tae fuck