2020 Democratic presidential primary

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we have a corrupt game show host as president. buttigieg as president would be a relief

Dan S, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 03:32 (six years ago)

nonetheless I do think someone more qualified would've seen through Putin, or Erdogan or Jong Un's machinations (and we know that relatively qualified people in the State Dept *did* see through those machinations, but Trump ignored them).


So just to be devil’s advocate here, there’s the game theory situation where two people are chained together on the edge of the cliff and the goal is to not be the first person to chicken out, so the winning move is to start dancing like a crazy person. Trump has tripped over into this strategy face-first, a lot like Nixon did, against all the advice of the pros from dover. There’s some argument to be made that the pros are predictable enough to be liabilities in a lot of hard foreign policy decisions.

On the other hand, strictly transactional approaches that have no regard for human rights or actual economic facts are the road to hell. Also, Alfred otm about immigration policy. Also, we need a president who will actually take steps to end the forever war.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 03:41 (six years ago)

Greta Buttigieg?


Excellent band name

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 03:43 (six years ago)

i'm afraid a lot of people are looking for Obama 2.0 and Pete--depsite whatever brains or talent he may possess--just ain't that. not by a long shot.

― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, November 12, 2019 2:13 PM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

also tbh Obama 2.0 doesn't seem like a silver bullet in 2020

― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, November 12, 2019 2:14 PM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

these people seem to be overlooking everything that made Obama an exceptional and electable politician

grebbmoolb (crüt), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 03:49 (six years ago)

Yeah I’m afraid that Obama may have done to my generation what Reagan did to my parents’, if that makes sense.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 04:43 (six years ago)

Has anyone tried "Buttigieg Lord" yet?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 07:05 (six years ago)

... to the tune of "Jubilee Cloud" i assume

weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 12:04 (six years ago)

NEW: Former Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick is telling friends and allies in phone calls today he has made a decision to run for the Democratic nomination for president, two people familiar with the matter tell @CNN, and is poised to make it official by Friday or sooner.

— Jeff Zeleny (@jeffzeleny) November 13, 2019

Simon H., Wednesday, 13 November 2019 20:26 (six years ago)

goddammit Deval

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 20:30 (six years ago)

weird way to thank Warren for the plug she gave him the other week

Simon H., Wednesday, 13 November 2019 20:31 (six years ago)

I predict he enters the race with commanding poll numbers of ... 3%

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 20:32 (six years ago)

dang, was hoping he was included in this poll. still a change for Duckworth, Kaine, O'Malley and Grimes to jump in i guess

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 20:34 (six years ago)

I am currently against this idea, but if he takes the stage in a glittering robe and chants "It's after the end of the world, don't you know that yet?" I may change my mind.

(For those who don't know, Deval Patrick's father was a baritone saxophonist and longtime member of the Sun Ra Arkestra.)

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 20:35 (six years ago)

continuing the trend of 2020 candidates being the lame, square offspring of cool parents

Simon H., Wednesday, 13 November 2019 20:36 (six years ago)

^^^god yes

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 20:38 (six years ago)

Joe Biden's dad killed Hitler

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 20:41 (six years ago)

beat him like a drum iirc

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 20:48 (six years ago)

holy shit joe biden’s dad was hitler???

actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 20:56 (six years ago)

look folks, here's the deal, it was a different time back then, you had to be able to reach across the aisle and say "hey, let's get this done", he's proud of what they got to achieve by working together with reasonable Nazis

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 20:59 (six years ago)

I predict he enters the race with commanding poll numbers of ... 3%

i'm going with 2% (+/- 2% MOE)

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 21:25 (six years ago)

i didn't even know Moe Two-Percent was running

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 21:28 (six years ago)

loool

NEW: Leon Cooperman has responded to Elizabeth Warren's ad. "She’s disgraceful. She doesn’t know who the f--- she’s tweeting. I gave away more in the year then she has in her whole f----ing lifetime” he just told me. https://t.co/8g6VEY3sVl

— Brian Schwartz (@schwartzbCNBC) November 13, 2019

mookieproof, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 22:06 (six years ago)

I love how rich people think that's a good argument! I had a boss who told me once "I paid more in taxes last year than your whole salary." Uh. Good?

DJI, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 22:14 (six years ago)

I’m sure Leon has given away more money than most of us will earn in our freaking lives. That’s the problem, not the defense
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^^^

A breezy pop-rock feel fairly typical of the mid-'80s (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 22:14 (six years ago)

I love how rich people think that's a good argument!

lol yeah it's remarkable that these guys don't get how attacking Warren actually works in her favor.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 22:18 (six years ago)

“As king, i have pardoned more than twenty of the thousand men that my courts sentenced to death. How many men’s lives have YOU saved?”

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 22:19 (six years ago)

reads a lot like the common defense of Jeff Bezos "but he's created so many jobs!!"

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 22:22 (six years ago)

I was just searching if anyone has developed a logarithmic scale (or similar) that would measure magnitudes of personal wealth and Bloomberg just did recently. But it kind of sucks. Maybe because it's still difficult for most people to visualize. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-30/everyone-has-a-wealth-number-what-s-yours

Yerac, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 22:34 (six years ago)

Leon Cooperman's quip reminds me of something Ric Flair would say

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 22:36 (six years ago)

we all agree with that shit but 48% of the electorate sympathises with these billionaire assholes

akm, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 22:47 (six years ago)

Not really, the wealth tax has a supermajority of support IIRC.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 23:22 (six years ago)

oh... oh no

Bernie would never ask his supporters to debase themselves by doing this. pic.twitter.com/pSS55mQXNV

— matt (@burgoonm) November 14, 2019

actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 15 November 2019 15:03 (six years ago)

he should try flash mobs next

weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 15 November 2019 15:05 (six years ago)

That's EXACTLY the kind of shit we had to do in public for City Year, so hey, Pete continues to be the candidate of cutesy, culty neoliberalism.

OneSecondBefore, Friday, 15 November 2019 15:54 (six years ago)

to be fair, pete's supporters are precisely corny enough to come up with something like this on their own

jacquees, full of cobras (voodoo chili), Friday, 15 November 2019 15:55 (six years ago)

Centrists have lost their freaking minds

Frederik B, Friday, 15 November 2019 16:00 (six years ago)

It will be kind of funny with all these centrists jumping in late when Biden still wins this in a walk.

o. nate, Friday, 15 November 2019 16:36 (six years ago)

I really don't want to dampen the enthusiasm of young people engaged with the political process but I can feel my face melting from projected rage and embarrassment

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 15 November 2019 16:43 (six years ago)

these Pete fans kind of remind me of the young Lamar Alexander supporters in Iowa back in '96.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 15 November 2019 16:50 (six years ago)

somewhere around must also be the ghost of Mike Doonesbury, listlessly cheering at the back of a Steve Forbes rally that year and wondering why it doesn't feel quite like the 60s anymore

weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 15 November 2019 17:06 (six years ago)

"didn't have a dime but i always had a vision" eh

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 15 November 2019 17:33 (six years ago)

New from me: Pete Buttigieg touted 3 major South Carolina supporters of his Douglass Plan for Black America. They were “alarmed” when they saw it. https://t.co/8zxmNwGcVN

— Ryan Grim (@ryangrim) November 15, 2019

Simon H., Friday, 15 November 2019 19:14 (six years ago)

Deval Patrick implicated in covering up some sexual assault shit. Why is he running again?

Warren backing off M4A.

akm, Friday, 15 November 2019 19:15 (six years ago)

In 2014 Deval Patrick fired leaders of his state's Sex Offender Registry for trying to force his brother in law to register due to being convicted of rape in California in 1993.

In 2019, that same rapist was sentenced to 6 years for another rape. 1/https://t.co/dPbQ6ElSml

— Michele Dauber (@mldauber) November 14, 2019

akm, Friday, 15 November 2019 19:17 (six years ago)

vile.

Warren backing off M4A.

― akm, Friday, November 15, 2019 11:15 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

?

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 15 November 2019 19:18 (six years ago)

https://www.sacbee.com/news/article237402154.html

won't push for it until the third year of her administration.

akm, Friday, 15 November 2019 19:20 (six years ago)

I think she announced a phase-in

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 15 November 2019 19:20 (six years ago)

"Elizabeth Warren announced Friday that she won’t immediately push to give every American government-funded health care and instead will work to oversee passage of a sweeping “Medicare for All” program by the end of her third year if elected president — a significant step away from a plan she’s long championed.

The Massachusetts Democratic senator released a health care transition plan that vows to build on existing programs, including the Obama administration’s signature Affordable Care Act, to expand public health insurance during her first 100 days in office. That’s different than sticking fully with a “public option” over a government-run system, which is backed by Warren’s more moderate presidential candidate rivals, including former Vice President Joe Biden.

Warren then says she’ll work with Congress to pass pieces of a universal coverage proposal more gradually, with the whole thing being ready “no later than” her third year in office."

akm, Friday, 15 November 2019 19:20 (six years ago)

not that I disagree with this approach but this is going to piss a lot of people off.

akm, Friday, 15 November 2019 19:21 (six years ago)

Anyone think it could take a year?

Van Horn Street, Friday, 15 November 2019 19:23 (six years ago)


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