2020 Democratic presidential primary

I don't agree w that at all

majority of Trump's foreign policy disasters are based on some combo of his total ignorance of how foreign policy works + his monstrous policies, they work in tandem to ensure that he gets taken advantage of by savvier leaders of foreign countries like Erdogan and Putin and Kim Jong Un.

yeah, though to be fair it is increasingly difficult to separate indifference to governing with ideology/'policy'

Trump's foreign policy has been far less disastrous than what we've gotten (or would have gotten, ie if Bolton had his way) from 'qualified' Republicans.

I'm not going to engage in hypotheticals

you wanted an example of the impacts of being unqualified, I cited some

I consider his policy to the undocumented a "foreign policy disaster."

trump's drone policy is a human rights nightmare that basically no one ever talks about

*trump holds deck of disaster in hands, introduces concept of 'disaster 52 pick-up', figures out personally profitable angles*

xxp - but those aren't the "impacts of being unqualified" they're the impacts of being a Republican and if anything they've been blunted by his ineffectualness.

Foreign policy is the number one place where no one is actually qualified to be President, because no other office has comparable power or duties.

What matters is having a good, humane ideology in terms of foreign policy. By that measure Mayor Pete ranks low in the field not because he's unqualified but because his beliefs and attitudes are generally shit.

the nut of the problem here is that the logical endpoint of Republican ideology these days is essentially anarchism - ie the federal gov't shouldn't function at all. So when those functions break down whether it's by reason of incompetence or by ideology is often hard to tease apart, because those mechanisms are mutually reinforcing.

nonetheless I do think someone more qualified would've seen through Putin, or Erdogan or Jong Un's machinations (and we know that relatively qualified people in the State Dept *did* see through those machinations, but Trump ignored them).

One's qualifications for high office do not simply consist of a resume of the previous jobs one has held. They include one's character, personality and innate abilities, e.g the ability to learn new things and to quickly put that learning to effective use. The list of Trump's disqualifications for the presidency is stunningly long; his non-existant experience of legislative or executive politics is only one among many, nor is it the most disqualifying of the bunch by a long shot.

November Pete vs. February Pete. pic.twitter.com/MolvPWEDki

— wideofthepost (@wideofthepost) November 12, 2019

honestly a slick edit of these clips back to back should be the end of this fucking guy

I can't tell Greta and Pete apart.

(I mean "should" as in "ideally") xp

rly struggling with the idea that doogie howser could become the fuckin president

Greta Buttigieg?

we have a corrupt game show host as president. buttigieg as president would be a relief

nonetheless I do think someone more qualified would've seen through Putin, or Erdogan or Jong Un's machinations (and we know that relatively qualified people in the State Dept *did* see through those machinations, but Trump ignored them).

Greta Buttigieg?

i'm afraid a lot of people are looking for Obama 2.0 and Pete--depsite whatever brains or talent he may possess--just ain't that. not by a long shot.

― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, November 12, 2019 2:13 PM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

also tbh Obama 2.0 doesn't seem like a silver bullet in 2020

― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, November 12, 2019 2:14 PM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

these people seem to be overlooking everything that made Obama an exceptional and electable politician

Yeah I’m afraid that Obama may have done to my generation what Reagan did to my parents’, if that makes sense.

Has anyone tried "Buttigieg Lord" yet?

... to the tune of "Jubilee Cloud" i assume

NEW: Former Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick is telling friends and allies in phone calls today he has made a decision to run for the Democratic nomination for president, two people familiar with the matter tell @CNN, and is poised to make it official by Friday or sooner.

— Jeff Zeleny (@jeffzeleny) November 13, 2019

goddammit Deval

weird way to thank Warren for the plug she gave him the other week

I predict he enters the race with commanding poll numbers of ... 3%

dang, was hoping he was included in this poll. still a change for Duckworth, Kaine, O'Malley and Grimes to jump in i guess

I am currently against this idea, but if he takes the stage in a glittering robe and chants "It's after the end of the world, don't you know that yet?" I may change my mind.

(For those who don't know, Deval Patrick's father was a baritone saxophonist and longtime member of the Sun Ra Arkestra.)

continuing the trend of 2020 candidates being the lame, square offspring of cool parents

^^^god yes

Joe Biden's dad killed Hitler

beat him like a drum iirc

holy shit joe biden’s dad was hitler???

look folks, here's the deal, it was a different time back then, you had to be able to reach across the aisle and say "hey, let's get this done", he's proud of what they got to achieve by working together with reasonable Nazis

I predict he enters the race with commanding poll numbers of ... 3%

i'm going with 2% (+/- 2% MOE)

i didn't even know Moe Two-Percent was running

loool

NEW: Leon Cooperman has responded to Elizabeth Warren's ad. "She’s disgraceful. She doesn’t know who the f--- she’s tweeting. I gave away more in the year then she has in her whole f----ing lifetime” he just told me. https://t.co/8g6VEY3sVl

— Brian Schwartz (@schwartzbCNBC) November 13, 2019

I love how rich people think that's a good argument! I had a boss who told me once "I paid more in taxes last year than your whole salary." Uh. Good?

I’m sure Leon has given away more money than most of us will earn in our freaking lives. That’s the problem, not the defense
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^^^

I love how rich people think that's a good argument!

lol yeah it's remarkable that these guys don't get how attacking Warren actually works in her favor.

“As king, i have pardoned more than twenty of the thousand men that my courts sentenced to death. How many men’s lives have YOU saved?”

reads a lot like the common defense of Jeff Bezos "but he's created so many jobs!!"

I was just searching if anyone has developed a logarithmic scale (or similar) that would measure magnitudes of personal wealth and Bloomberg just did recently. But it kind of sucks. Maybe because it's still difficult for most people to visualize. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-30/everyone-has-a-wealth-number-what-s-yours

Leon Cooperman's quip reminds me of something Ric Flair would say

we all agree with that shit but 48% of the electorate sympathises with these billionaire assholes

Not really, the wealth tax has a supermajority of support IIRC.