Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

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Stephen Bush points out that Boris’s personal ratings are increasing...but am I alone in thinking that he’s being kept away from scrutiny? Like he hasn’t done a single press conference or live interview.

gyac, Monday, 11 November 2019 16:51 (six years ago)

I've heard Cummings new strategy is just keep playing select 2016 footage of him from now on

calzino, Monday, 11 November 2019 16:56 (six years ago)

he’s running a submarine strategy again

ntcham is antifa (||||||||), Monday, 11 November 2019 17:25 (six years ago)

debates + manifestos should be big pivots

ntcham is antifa (||||||||), Monday, 11 November 2019 17:25 (six years ago)

any idea when the Labour one drops?

Simon H., Monday, 11 November 2019 17:28 (six years ago)

but am I alone in thinking that he’s being kept away from scrutiny? Like he hasn’t done a single press conference or live interview.

― gyac, Monday, 11 November 2019 bookmarkflaglink

He is not going to be given the scrutiny anyway, whether for his appearance at Remembrance Sunday or his skills with a mop.

He will do the odd interview, and certainly the head-to-head debates will give him a chance to screw up but Johnson will be helped every step of the way - and that's what we are up against, as much as the tactical voting melts, or people with 'ideas'.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 11 November 2019 17:52 (six years ago)

I just hope we don't all wish Labour had had some better ideas come Dec 13

imago, Monday, 11 November 2019 17:54 (six years ago)

why do you hate socialism dude?

Joe Kulak 😎 (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 November 2019 17:54 (six years ago)

I love socialism. I mean tactical ideas

imago, Monday, 11 November 2019 17:55 (six years ago)

Eh I guess they're playing it well enough for now. I had to respond to alphie's dig!

imago, Monday, 11 November 2019 17:55 (six years ago)

Stephen Bush points out that Boris’s personal ratings are increasing...but am I alone in thinking that he’s being kept away from scrutiny? Like he hasn’t done a single press conference or live interview.

So carry on not doing press conferences or live interviews then.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Monday, 11 November 2019 17:58 (six years ago)

honestly don't think there's any better tactical strategy than boots on the ground campaigning. nothing "clever" will cut thru the class interests of the media. if I wasn't so fucked up I'd be knocking on doors myself.

Joe Kulak 😎 (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 November 2019 17:58 (six years ago)

You're probably right. I live in an incredibly safe Labour area and that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it lol

imago, Monday, 11 November 2019 17:59 (six years ago)

might be worth offering a "hang Tories" manifesto promise, probably a few votes in that

Joe Kulak 😎 (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 November 2019 18:00 (six years ago)

When I smarten up I both look and sound like a Tory though so maybe there could be merit in me doing some kind of parody campaigning

imago, Monday, 11 November 2019 18:02 (six years ago)

And that's how my stand-up career began!

Goddammit why hasn't my phone died yet this is usually low enough battery

imago, Monday, 11 November 2019 18:03 (six years ago)

Bad news: my train has charging sockets beside each seat

imago, Monday, 11 November 2019 18:12 (six years ago)

I just hope we don't all wish Labour had had some better ideas come Dec 13


like not being a threat to capital and the rich?

gyac, Monday, 11 November 2019 18:23 (six years ago)

It's not what you say, it's how you say it! But yes, I still have faith, keep it up. All about getting enough seats

imago, Monday, 11 November 2019 18:32 (six years ago)

where do SNP leave votes (30% of SNP voters) go do we reckon? maybe might just stay at home, thus depressing the SNP vote again... ?

ntcham is antifa (||||||||), Monday, 11 November 2019 18:48 (six years ago)

given the paucity of their opponents i don't think a depressed vote will hurt the SNP much, and much as i hate the blowhard cunt who leads them in the UK parliament i think they're natural Labour allies for the most part and better them than the Tories or the Yellow Tories or the Red Scottish Tories tbh

Joe Kulak 😎 (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 November 2019 18:51 (six years ago)

They voted SNP last time, why wouldn't they vote SNP again? The SNP's attitude to Brexit hasn't changed.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Monday, 11 November 2019 18:55 (six years ago)

SNP had a slightly softer position last time no? anyway this aligns w/tom D and is probably right:

“... when it comes to the voting crunch, the SNP and the Yes movement hope and think they will prioritise Scottish independence over EU independence, and that the union is still the issue that defines everything in Scotland.”

ntcham is antifa (||||||||), Monday, 11 November 2019 18:58 (six years ago)

Would that be real independence tho? :p

calzino, Monday, 11 November 2019 19:03 (six years ago)

It is complex because by no means all SNP voters actually support independence.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Monday, 11 November 2019 19:05 (six years ago)

It would be interesting to see what effect 12 months of Labour governnment might have on support for independence.

Joe Kulak 😎 (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 November 2019 19:08 (six years ago)

That’s the idea! For example if Labour’s deal or Remain referendum goes Remain, then SNP has some wind taken out of its sails.

santa clause four (suzy), Monday, 11 November 2019 19:10 (six years ago)

I hope not, I want Scotland to be independent.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Monday, 11 November 2019 19:11 (six years ago)

i honestly don't have a dog in that fight, if i was Scottish i think i'd probably be voting SNP but not because i give much of a fuck about independence

Joe Kulak 😎 (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 November 2019 19:12 (six years ago)

I hate the SNP but I hate the UK more.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Monday, 11 November 2019 19:14 (six years ago)

You guys still have a lot of that regional tribalism going on that seems to look past policy altogether.

El Tomboto, Monday, 11 November 2019 19:16 (six years ago)

yeah I hate England as much as anybody I just don't much care for nation States in general

Joe Kulak 😎 (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 November 2019 19:16 (six years ago)

xp

Joe Kulak 😎 (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 November 2019 19:17 (six years ago)

Part of the regional tribalism thing Tombot is it does have loose, complex ties to class and economic politics, at least in a kneejerk way

Joe Kulak 😎 (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 November 2019 19:18 (six years ago)

You guys still have a lot of that regional tribalism going on that seems to look past policy altogether.

I think describing Scotland's problems with the UK as regional tribalism is tin-eared to say the least.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Monday, 11 November 2019 19:48 (six years ago)

It probably says far too much about how many politics threads I read, but genuinely shocked someone who was in almost every thread that mentioned the LDs had such absolute crap still on his tl

Wow the @LibDems candidate for Thurrock really likes saying the N word pic.twitter.com/99uRM4OUb3

— Loki Belmont (@Lokinash06) November 11, 2019

gyac, Monday, 11 November 2019 20:20 (six years ago)

One thing you can guarantee: no cabinet ministers will be tweeting about it

gyac, Monday, 11 November 2019 20:21 (six years ago)

He is the president of the Liberal democrats campaign for race equality as well @timfarron @joswinson @LibDems @LibDemPress pic.twitter.com/8IbZkpBLw9

— Loki Belmont (@Lokinash06) November 11, 2019

Titanic was cliched Marxist crap. (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 November 2019 20:30 (six years ago)

Yeah he was clearly dropping N bombs out of love

Joe Kulak 😎 (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 November 2019 20:32 (six years ago)

Not so much racist as mortally, infinitely embarrassing tbh

imago, Monday, 11 November 2019 20:39 (six years ago)

But also racist

imago, Monday, 11 November 2019 20:39 (six years ago)

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 36% (-)
LAB: 29% (+1)
LDEM: 17% (-)
BREX: 11% (+1)

via @ComRes, 30 Oct - 05 Nov
Chgs. w/ 31 Oct

— Britain Elects (@britainelects) November 11, 2019

I always said ComRes were the best pollsters in the game!

calzino, Monday, 11 November 2019 20:39 (six years ago)

That will have changed after BXP pulled out of nearly 300 seats today

imago, Monday, 11 November 2019 20:45 (six years ago)

That said, that was always going to happen, and Labour are certainly close enough to make a push

imago, Monday, 11 November 2019 20:46 (six years ago)

yeah national polling will have completely changed since this one and Boris made a reductive quip about floods in a northern brexity area.

calzino, Monday, 11 November 2019 20:49 (six years ago)

BXP only standing in 300 seats may distort national polling no?

ntcham is antifa (||||||||), Monday, 11 November 2019 20:49 (six years ago)

Looking forward to Farage being asked why he's now backing a deal he described as not Brexit or whether he knows something we don't, I'm sure journalists will be all over it

Joe Kulak 😎 (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 November 2019 20:51 (six years ago)

I'm actually sad enough to be quite excited at the prospect of seeing how it stacks up in the next batch of polls - not that I'm necessarily thinking it will be good.

calzino, Monday, 11 November 2019 20:52 (six years ago)

https://www.eastmidlandsbusinesslink.co.uk/mag/news/countdown-to-brexit-edwin-morgan-interim-director-general-of-the-institute-of-directors/

Oh no! This asshole is ruining my searches for quotes from the post.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Monday, 11 November 2019 20:54 (six years ago)

Poet

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Monday, 11 November 2019 20:54 (six years ago)


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