Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

Farage not fielding candidates in Tory-held seats hardly helps at all. The Tories need to win these 50 pro-Brexit Labour marginals to win a majority. The Brexit Party standing in them could see Corbyn enter Downing Street and Brexit cancelled. pic.twitter.com/YgeKjgPIcy

— Joe Armitage (@joe_armitage) November 11, 2019

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Exactly my point upthread

BXP already slumping in polls so shouldn't have too much of an effect on the Tories level even

I do wonder what effect a bit of gesture politics from Labour could have, such as not running in any of the current Lib Dem or Green seats. YES I KNOW. But it's about the optics. YES I KNOW.

oh i'll give you a gesture alright

I mean, someone has to play melts' advocate here, it's not like it's an insignificant demographic at large ;)

lol wtf? been at the Drugs Wallet? :p

Calm heads, people! Big picture! Long game!

Every suggestion of mine is based around a desire to see Labour in power and accomplishing the strategic means to this. Which surely justify the ends! Where's alphie

aka don't let your justified hatred of the piss diamonds override the need to play the game a bit and forge certain advantageous deals

The Lib Dems appears to view every seat in the country as rightfully theirs. Labour standing down in the handful they won last time is never going to be reciprocated. Labour abandoning seats their turncoat MPs won last time is also unthinkable.

otm

Oh yeah obviously not those seats. I meant seats the Dems won at the last election. If they didn't reciprocate such a gesture in Lab/Tory marginals they'd surely be seen as the untrustworthy bastards they are (by even the melt massive)?

I'm just terrified of a Tory majority and by any means necessary etc

Labour's share in all of LD's 2017 gains is pretty much the same weak level already - enough for this to not really be an issue because even if Tories take back a couple of these they're as likely to lose the same amount or more to LDs elsewhere (where Labour aren't really in contention).

This is what is going to happen.

Important thing for Labour to avoid with this BXP thing is to allow itself to be drawn into a brexit battleground. We can't draw lines of remain/leave. We have to keep campaigning on policies.

— 🗣️📢 HONK for Labour 🗣️📢 (@RavenholmCLP) November 11, 2019

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50375869

Not directly election related but this is a huge story, right?

can't believe he managed to crush his own hyoid bone like that

For those of us behind the Chinese firewall, who got Epsteined?

it's the news you posted on the rolling mena thread a few minutes ago - james le mesurier

can't believe china allows ilx

the real huge story

It’s the only site on the internet that works!

what the... fuck?

Sam Gyimah, the recently-defected former Tory MP who now speaks on business matters for the Lib Dems, was taken all the way from Westminster to Marylebone Road – slightly over two miles – to talk about the slightly awkwardly-named “skills wallet” plan, a commitment to give all adults £10,000 to spend on training over various points in their lives.

He visited a company that provides tech-based apprenticeships, called White Hat. It is co-founded by none other than Euan Blair, eldest son of the former Labour PM, but he is currently on paternity leave and so missed any awkward questions about who he might vote for.

who is doing the libdems pr and are they working to bring them down from inside

The Lib Dems appears to view every seat in the country as rightfully theirs. Labour standing down in the handful they won last time is never going to be reciprocated. Labour abandoning seats their turncoat MPs won last time is also unthinkable.

I do wonder what effect a bit of gesture politics from Labour could have, such as not running in any of the current Lib Dem or Green seats.

Headlines like "Labour plots democracy-hating fix" or "Labour admits defeat, won't run nationwide"?

I do get the frustration as someone who wants to GTTO and who now lives in a delicately balanced marginal piss diamond seat and previously lived in a safe Tory seat where LD+Lab ≈ Tory, but I think the above is a factor perhaps overlooked by Sensible FBPE types

re: Le Mesurier - BBC says: "The cause of death is not known." Guardian says: "Turkish media reports said he was found with fractures to his head and legs near the building on Monday morning and appeared to have fallen from the balcony of one of the apartments."

My guess is that was the cause of death, but nice to the the Beeb not jumping to conclusions unless they have to.

It also undermines Labour's policy focus beyond Brexit. Standing aside in a few seats suggests you don't take your own policies and proclamations in those areas seriously as an every-issue party and if not there why anywhere. Optics indeed. xposts to gyac

The Conservative Party are the Brexit Party now. https://t.co/ijpWUUMDvh

— Jo Swinson (@joswinson) November 11, 2019

minds is pushing it maybe

lot of angry people who like flags out there

I always suspected the P in FBPE stood for pirates!

If only

https://youtu.be/h1zGqRXZlnY

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Pretty cool data stuff you can fuck around with
https://public.tableau.com/profile/christabel.cooper#!/vizhome/GE2019Constituencydata/ModelledOutcomes

> lot of angry people who like flags out there

vexated vexillologists?

Nigel Farage admits he was offered a peerage 48 hours before election U-turn

well ain't that a surprise.

*gasp*

Who wants a peerage under the jackboot of the hated EU?

nigel farage

oh yeah good point

Haven't seen that reported anywhere tbh.

BREAKING: Nigel Farage announces that the Brexit Party will NOT stand candidates in 317 seats Tories won at last election, but focus instead on Labour seats.

He may have just gifted the Conservatives this election.

— Paul Brand (@PaulBrandITV) November 11, 2019

No, I meant about him being offered a peerage.

NEW Nigel Farage admits he was offered a peerage 48 hours before election U-turnhttps://t.co/DCuXxTowiQ

— Dan Bloom (@danbloom1) November 11, 2019

oops I meant to post this one

But he denied the Christmas bauble was behind his decision – and vowed to snub the offer.

Classic tabloidese.

hmmmmmm

Asked by the Mirror what he had been promised in return for ditching his plan to run 600 candidates, he said: “Nothing, and I have asked for nothing. I don't want anything.”

Asked if he was offered a peerage, he said: “I was offered one last Friday.

“Ridiculous – the thought they can buy me, a high-paid job; but I'm not interested, I don't want to know.”

Pressed, he insisted he would turn down either a peerage or a knighthood.

So, does this qualify for him to get a peerage?

Or will he be all "oh no no no I don't want one..."

xpost never mind.

do you get money with a peerage? cos I'm prepared to stop posting in this thread if the Tories wanna slip me a gong

however mr farage has refused to rule out a royal marriage