Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

I see this ridiculous Corbyn Refuses Nuke Our Enemies angle is being pushed again.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJFV0JjWkAAJDiA?format=jpg&name=small

xp thing is all UK overseas military actions after the Falklands have been very unpopular, I just saw a poll earlier that supports this.

xxp oh you mean the "difficult" nuclear holocaust question, not wars, ignore me.

both Swinson and Davey would have no problem pressing the launch button.

feel like swinson might actually be itching to press it tbh

TS: dealing with crises all around us vs dealing with crises that will never happen

the paradox is that it only actually works as a deterrent if no fucker is actually deranged enough to use it!

Comfortable people need a crisis to give meaning. Don't forget these are people upset they missed out on World War Two. While they may not have had their own war related hardships growing up, they're not afraid now, unlike the snowflake generation

If that is the case they just need to fall into poverty and spend 18 months on Universal Credit. They might get sanctioned for turning up at a JSA interview in 1940's attire. And it would kill any romanticised notions of dignified austerity they are harbouring.

"ok bomber"

Sounding like Farage is about to back the Tories.

Brexit Party not standing in any Tory seats.

There it is

Farage bottling it

Bribed no doubt.

Pretty bad in terms of not splitting the Tory vote, but opening for Labour to very obviously paint a vote for BXP in their seats as a Tory vote

I'm not sure that'll persuade anyone not to vote BXP. I suppose the Tory vote will still be split in Labour constituencies, at least.

... or will it?

Can you bet on the next Honours List? I've thought of a way people can pay for their insulin. https://t.co/f6blPE2Zlj

— Frankie Boyle (@frankieboyle) November 11, 2019

Farage says the Brexit party will not stand against the Tories in the 317 seats they won in 2017.
But it will concentrate its efforts on seats held by the Labour party.

So he wants to split the Leave vote in Labour seats the Tories actually need? Thumbs up.

Should focus some minds.

in latest alien vs predator news the tories have got Ken Davy running against Sheerman which probably makes it the safest seat in England now. Ken Davy is universally loathed in hudds for being the opportunist crook who stole the football clubs stadium shares when they were in administration so he could change the rental formula to allow his egg-chasing bastards to live there rent free whilst the football club would slip into non-league oblivion. He's the most despised chairman in Hudds town history. And also his dodgy finance companies have been repeatedly fined for misleading selling, and he looks like the mekon is 103 years old or something.

Pretty bad in terms of not splitting the Tory vote, but opening for Labour to very obviously paint a vote for BXP in their seats as a Tory vote

― stet, Monday, 11 November 2019 bookmarkflaglink

Not sure BXP voters just automatically do what Farage tells them to anyway. They are a pretty volatile lot.

Boris has successfully sold the concept of a deal to leavers so its unclear what purpose of BXP now is. Don't know they're going to do particularly well

This announcement basically wrecks all national VI polling, which might not be a bad thing for the discourse tbh https://t.co/yVknXKtlcp

— Simon (@simonk_133) November 11, 2019

What it will actually do is give the Tories an even bigger lead in national polling, right? And then exactly the reaction you would expect.

How many seats are UKIP fielding candidates in?

Farage not fielding candidates in Tory-held seats hardly helps at all. The Tories need to win these 50 pro-Brexit Labour marginals to win a majority. The Brexit Party standing in them could see Corbyn enter Downing Street and Brexit cancelled. pic.twitter.com/YgeKjgPIcy

— Joe Armitage (@joe_armitage) November 11, 2019

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Exactly my point upthread

BXP already slumping in polls so shouldn't have too much of an effect on the Tories level even

I do wonder what effect a bit of gesture politics from Labour could have, such as not running in any of the current Lib Dem or Green seats. YES I KNOW. But it's about the optics. YES I KNOW.

oh i'll give you a gesture alright

I mean, someone has to play melts' advocate here, it's not like it's an insignificant demographic at large ;)

lol wtf? been at the Drugs Wallet? :p

Calm heads, people! Big picture! Long game!

Every suggestion of mine is based around a desire to see Labour in power and accomplishing the strategic means to this. Which surely justify the ends! Where's alphie

aka don't let your justified hatred of the piss diamonds override the need to play the game a bit and forge certain advantageous deals

The Lib Dems appears to view every seat in the country as rightfully theirs. Labour standing down in the handful they won last time is never going to be reciprocated. Labour abandoning seats their turncoat MPs won last time is also unthinkable.

otm

Oh yeah obviously not those seats. I meant seats the Dems won at the last election. If they didn't reciprocate such a gesture in Lab/Tory marginals they'd surely be seen as the untrustworthy bastards they are (by even the melt massive)?

I'm just terrified of a Tory majority and by any means necessary etc

Labour's share in all of LD's 2017 gains is pretty much the same weak level already - enough for this to not really be an issue because even if Tories take back a couple of these they're as likely to lose the same amount or more to LDs elsewhere (where Labour aren't really in contention).

This is what is going to happen.

Important thing for Labour to avoid with this BXP thing is to allow itself to be drawn into a brexit battleground. We can't draw lines of remain/leave. We have to keep campaigning on policies.

— 🗣️📢 HONK for Labour 🗣️📢 (@RavenholmCLP) November 11, 2019

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50375869

Not directly election related but this is a huge story, right?

can't believe he managed to crush his own hyoid bone like that

For those of us behind the Chinese firewall, who got Epsteined?

it's the news you posted on the rolling mena thread a few minutes ago - james le mesurier

can't believe china allows ilx

the real huge story

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