Bob Norris, the original "Marlboro Man" from cigarette ads, at 90. Was not a smoker.
― Josefa, Saturday, 9 November 2019 15:41 (four years ago) link
*one of the original Marlboro Men, evidently
― Josefa, Saturday, 9 November 2019 15:49 (four years ago) link
Sad news for Twin Cities punk rock aficionados, Terry Katzman has left us.
― A breezy pop-rock feel fairly typical of the mid-'80s (Dan Peterson), Saturday, 9 November 2019 16:59 (four years ago) link
devastating. Terry was the best.
― by the light of the burning Citroën, Saturday, 9 November 2019 17:01 (four years ago) link
Jackie Moore, soul singer.
― mike t-diva, Monday, 11 November 2019 16:11 (four years ago) link
aww no! this tune is classic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7wgSguvOcE
― Wee Bloabby (NickB), Monday, 11 November 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link
"Precious Precious" is one of my alltime favorite songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIgNpiFcPpM
― A breezy pop-rock feel fairly typical of the mid-'80s (Dan Peterson), Monday, 11 November 2019 16:29 (four years ago) link
I played "Both Ends Against The Middle" out a couple of months ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK8KyAmEtr4
― mike t-diva, Monday, 11 November 2019 17:12 (four years ago) link
Frank Dobson, former Labour MP for Holborn and St Pancras, Health Secretary and London Mayoral candidate, 79. Lived just around the corner from me, as it happens.
― santa clause four (suzy), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 12:02 (four years ago) link
RIP Frank, never cared for you as Uncle Albert in "Only Fools and Horses" though.
― 'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 12:08 (four years ago) link
Low on the beeb - an ignominious death.
― Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 12:34 (four years ago) link
He can have a chat with Uncle Albert in heaven about how PFI's reinvigorated the NHS and how little anybody cares about the deaths of plodding professional pols.
― calzino, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 12:54 (four years ago) link
Ted Cullinan, architect, 88.
If you were a fan of the Too Pure label, his son Tom was in Th’ Faith Healers.
― santa clause four (suzy), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 13:32 (four years ago) link
Comics journalist Tom Spurgeon
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 November 2019 03:18 (four years ago) link
Terry O'Neill
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2019/nov/17/photographer-of-swinging-60s-terry-oneill-dies-aged-81
― 'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Sunday, 17 November 2019 11:23 (four years ago) link
... married to Faye Dunaway at one point, that I didn't know.
― 'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Sunday, 17 November 2019 11:24 (four years ago) link
That’s when I first heard of him!
― santa clause four (suzy), Sunday, 17 November 2019 14:21 (four years ago) link
Tom Lyle, comic artist. Judging by the reaction on Twitter, he seems to be best remembered as a Spider-Man artist, though I knew him from the early Tim Drake Robin stories. RIP.
― Duane Barry, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link
Michael J. Pollard
https://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3595146/r-p-house-1000-corpses-actor-michael-j-pollard-passed-away/
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 22 November 2019 16:55 (four years ago) link
Gahan Wilson
― Brad C., Friday, 22 November 2019 17:05 (four years ago) link
RIP CW
lol horror guys xp
damn, i met Wilson at a college publication event when i was in school. worthy of Charles Addams' company.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 November 2019 17:06 (four years ago) link
this was a couple of weeks back but: https://www.courthousenews.com/widow-of-french-novelist-celine-dies-aged-107/
― mark s, Friday, 22 November 2019 17:32 (four years ago) link
cool that the article has a file photo of him but not the person who died, or even her name in the first graf
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Friday, 22 November 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link
But his reputation was sullied by his collaboration with the Nazis during the occupation of France in World War II, during which he wrote virulently anti-Semitic pamphlets.
oh worm?
French publisher Gallimard sparked controversy last year by announcing plans to reissue a collection of the violently anti-Semitic pamphlets but then shelved the idea in the face of public outrage.
oh okay
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Friday, 22 November 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link
if you GIS Lucette Destouches almost all of the pictures have her and/or ol' louis posing with an animal, usually a cat
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 22 November 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link
well at least that's relatable
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Friday, 22 November 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link
Wow @ Celine's wife (!) I started reading Journey to the End of the Night a couple weeks ago
― flappy bird, Friday, 22 November 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link
he died when i was one year old and i am very old!
(the only celine i've ever read was some extracts in kristeva's book on abjection, trotsky liked his writing but not his politics, he was a popular and diligent doctor in a poor district apparently -- except also a nazi)
― mark s, Friday, 22 November 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link
I gave money to the fundraiser for Gahan Wilson's assisted living this spring; hope he had a comfortable end.
― mick signals, Friday, 22 November 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link
Journey to the End of the Night is an inarguable classic. So much of its language is hyperbolically oral, like, so overwhelmingly reliant on slang that it could only have been written and composed. I can't imagine what it sounds like in translation.
― pomenitul, Friday, 22 November 2019 18:36 (four years ago) link
Nor is it overtly problematic™ like his subsequent writings.
― pomenitul, Friday, 22 November 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link
(Beckett loved it, of course.)
― pomenitul, Friday, 22 November 2019 18:41 (four years ago) link
I mean surely literal anti-semitic propaganda isn't "problematic" in scare quotes it's, y'know, a scourge
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Friday, 22 November 2019 19:17 (four years ago) link
I wasn't just thinking about the pamphlets but fair point nonetheless.
― pomenitul, Friday, 22 November 2019 19:55 (four years ago) link
i liked journey to the end of the night but it was definitely a book that i knew would've been a thousand times better in the original (an example that i've read bilingually would be vargas llosa's la ciudad y los perros, which loses of the slangy, demotic spanish in translation, hell even the translated title "the time of the hero" loses something)
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 22 November 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/jan/05/fierce-row-over-plans-to-publish-antisemitic-texts-by-french-writer-louis-ferdinand-celine
It seems like most of the controversy wasn’t so much about whether the pamphlets should be published, it was about Gallimard’s imprimatur being associated with the writings. Like this would mean giving the pamphlets some kind of prestige as canonical literature.
I'd say that as historical documents, they should be available in some form or another.
― jmm, Friday, 22 November 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link
It seems like most of the controversy wasn’t so much about whether the pamphlets should be published
Nah, that was definitely the crux of it.
― pomenitul, Friday, 22 November 2019 20:08 (four years ago) link
― jmm, Friday, November 22, 2019 12:05 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
yeah, in an archive and scanned, not released for people to spend money on for the enrichment of a publisher and an estate
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Friday, 22 November 2019 20:22 (four years ago) link
Tbf it was meant to be a critical edition. The pamphlets themselves are readily available online with no historical framing whatsoever.
― pomenitul, Friday, 22 November 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link
Maybe proceeds should go to a de-radicalization organization?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 22 November 2019 20:29 (four years ago) link
As far as I know, that possibility was never alluded to by the publisher. Which is indeed quite telling.
― pomenitul, Friday, 22 November 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link
Is that a thing lots of publishers have done?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 22 November 2019 20:41 (four years ago) link
Not to my knowledge, but Gallimard could certainly afford it.
― pomenitul, Friday, 22 November 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link
I have no way of knowing but JTTEOTN positively sings in translation, it seems more alive than Dostoevsky for example. different language but every translation I've read of Dostoevsky (exactly 2) were stiff as a board. and I know they're very different writers.
― flappy bird, Friday, 22 November 2019 22:18 (four years ago) link
idk dry, creaky translations bum me out. Thomas Bernhard works imo, another language but closer to Celine
I think Ralph Mannheim (?) did such a great job with Celine imo, just a great sense of rhythm: “impotent hatred grown rancid in the pissy idleness of dormitories” is a sentence that pops into my head from time to time. Death On Credit is less conventionally well written but maybe better, I read later things and found them a bit of a slogHe had no good words to say about his patients but apparently “could never turn anyone away” even if they couldn’t pay, I don’t think being a basically decent physician makes up for his frothing antisemitism tho
― YouGov to see it (wins), Friday, 22 November 2019 22:36 (four years ago) link
Manheim, yeah this translation is great
― flappy bird, Friday, 22 November 2019 23:06 (four years ago) link
having never read either, i oft confuse Celine and Colette, and forget one was male
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 November 2019 23:12 (four years ago) link
no slur on manheim but celine wasn't the first fash he translated - his first commission was mein kampf
― Wee Bloabby (NickB), Friday, 22 November 2019 23:15 (four years ago) link