2020 Democratic presidential primary

Mayor Pete, mayor mike, mayor joe, and standing suburban lawns over, mayor Amy. They’re all mayors in my book, and I wish them all the best during this cutthroat competition to compromise the most tactfully

https://www.eater.com/2019/11/7/20953442/pete-buttigieg-diet-iowa-election

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Rosario Dawson eats fish!?

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Buttigieg often begins his stump speech by asking voters to imagine the sun rising on the day that Donald Trump is no longer president of the United States.

I hate this shit, it reminds me of how GOP politicians pander

Founders All Day IPA is watery piss and Founders are a bunch of racists who are selling out to a conglomerate, in short, Pete is lame and isn’t paying attention to the issues that matter.

https://www.freep.com/story/entertainment/nightlife/2019/10/21/founders-brewing-company-racial-discrimination-case-tracy-evans/4056515002/

And Lagunitas belongs to Heineken FFS.

I didn't know that about Founders, because I'm apparently not paying attention to the issues that matter

Pete's press secretary did their job. Pete gets some People magazine-style free publicity where he gets to look roughly human, while reminding voters he is not 80 years old. Plus, doing it all without having to address any of those tiresome policy issues that people hate to think about.

Buttigieg often begins his stump speech by asking voters to imagine the sun rising

hate it when politicians just talk about themselves

xpost also Buttigieg having Bulleit around seems side-eye too.

This is good
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/469760-harris-shares-video-addressing-staffers-the-night-trump-was-elected-this-is

Sirens in the bkgd is a nice touch

like that video. forgot she was elected to the senate the same night Trump became president

"we're going to have whole communities of folks who are just going to retreat"

they did a real half assed job of bleeping out "shit"

Drew Magary is back: The Hater's Guide to Mayor Pete

You know, at least Sarah Palin had the common courtesy to run an entire state before pretending she was a figure of national importance. That hasn’t been the case with fellow small-town mayor Pete Buttigieg, who has become the ascendant moderate in the Democratic primary race after butting into third place in Iowa caucus polling and giving a speech at the Liberty and Justice dinner in Iowa that, inevitably, stirred the souls of every Never Socialist currently operating in mainstream political punditry. Here’s a money quote from Buttigieg’s speech that surely got Chris Cillizza’s glasses steaming with ecstasy:

“I will not waver from my commitment to our values or back down from the boldness of our ideas…”

BUT…?

“…but I also will not tire from the effort to include everyone in this future we are trying to build — progressives, moderates, and Republicans of conscience who are ready for change. The time has come.”

That’s a telling quote because you believe it only if you’re a fucking sap. You believe that you can enact bold ideas but still get everyone to go along with them. You believe that there are “Republicans of conscience,” and that there are a lot of them. Just an army of Mitt Romneys out there waiting for permission to turn brave. You believe that all it takes for every American to coexist in harmony is for a swell guy like Mayor Pete to come along and tell them all to be nice. This is all bullshit pandering.

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This man is not going to bring us together as Americans. He represents backroom interests that have a vested interest in making sure that NEVER happens. Mayor Pete is a fucking fraud. A sleeper agent. The fact that he’s the fresh face in this race is terrifying because it means that some young Democrats (and Pete is younger than me!) are gonna be just as willing to sell themselves out as some of the older ones already are. He belongs to a cadre of establishment Democrats who are not unifying the country but are, in fact, standing in the goddamn way.

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There’s no need for me to make a case against Pete Buttigieg because that craven asshole can’t be bothered to make one for himself. All he wants to do is pretend he can will everyone into getting along through his sheer force of bland personality. He wants to be Obama, only without the Obama part. It’s not uplifting. It’s fucking pathetic.

Do you wanna know something about partisanship? Partisanship is good. Partisanship is the whole reason we have a democracy. I have no interest in finding common ground with fucking Trump voters or with other assorted white supremacists. I have no interest in making sure those groups don’t feel demonized. I have no interest in making them feel COMFORTABLE when they have made so many Americans, and the world beyond, feel the precise opposite. I’m allowed to be angry at the state of things and I’m sure as hell allowed to loudly call out those responsible for it. I want to vehemently oppose those people, and guess what? I live in a country where I’m free to do that. I don’t like being told I’m out of line for doing so. So you’ll excuse me if I’m not exactly inspired by some South Bend pud who has no stomach for that fight, and doesn’t want me to have it either.

I agree with the sentiment that Pete Buttigieg is bullshit but the whole “there can never be any good republicans” thing seems a little over the top and self-congratulatory

In my experience there are currently no good republicans

the whole “there can never be any good republicans” thing seems a little over the top and self-congratulatory

Can you name one? No fair picking Lincoln.

get off the internet and meet some real people

So what you're saying is your mom is a Republican and she's always been nice to you? That's fine, but we're talking about politicians here.

we are? i’m not saying we need to compromise. what I’m saying is that hyperpartisan politics is not a good thing, contrary to what this guy suggests. that is what got us Trump. the aestheticization & commodification of politics is inherently right wing.

also you don’t know me so please don’t go making these broad proclamations about my family

no, the assertion that progressives need to get into a big tent with people who want to wipe them and their families and neighbors out is inherently right wing

there are Republicans who didn’t vote for Trump

Do you seriously think Pete Buttigieg wants his big tent to include white supremacists?

the ones at charlottesville? no. the ones that resist public school integration? yes.

Sounds like he’s open to including people who aren’t necessarily opposed to white supremacists or are willing to overlook those views if it benefits them in some other way.

The text if Buttigieg’s big tent line is no different from Sanders’ tbh - Sanders just couches it in “approval of my policy ideas is broadly popular and crosses party lines” rhetoric

Text of

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all of these candidates are going to get votes from moderates and centrist Republicans in the general, they shouldn’t pander to the worst of them obviously but it’s not helpful to repudiate them

we are? i’m not saying we need to compromise. what I’m saying is that hyperpartisan politics is not a good thing, contrary to what this guy suggests. that is what got us Trump. the aestheticization & commodification of politics is inherently right wing.

― esempio (crüt), Sunday, 10 November 2019 15:07 (fifteen minutes ago) link

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anyone want to participate in a wild friday night party game?!?!

surely they're polling bloomberg vs the rest of the field right now. who wants to guess how bloomberg will do in a national poll (which, yes, is pointless for primaries, but that's what the first legit polls will probably be)?

i'm gonna go with 4%.

― at home in the alternate future, (Karl Malone), Friday, November 8, 2019 8:15 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

And there it is:

NEW: Bloomberg Is Top Choice for 4% of Democratic Primary Voters https://t.co/1iDRYAWX1z

— Morning Consult (@MorningConsult) November 10, 2019

the "white supremacists aren't a dealbreaker to me" republicans are, what, the party of climate change denial, homophobia, prioritizing billionaires over health care and a living wage, and white supremacists not being a dealbreaker? yeah sounds great, let's definitely design the tent in such a way as to make sure they all feel welcome and listened-to and their boats aren't rocked.

Now that’s a good way to wake up. Checking the phone, checking the primary thread first - that’s the good stuff

xp to Bloomberg 4%

the "white supremacists aren't a dealbreaker to me" republicans are, what, the party of climate change denial, homophobia, prioritizing billionaires over health care and a living wage, and white supremacists not being a dealbreaker? yeah sounds great, let's definitely design the tent in such a way as to make sure they all feel welcome and listened-to and their boats aren't rocked.

― weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino),

The thing is, some of those people -- a sliver, but I can't give you a size -- are voting for Dems in Virginia, Kentucky, Texas, and elsewhere because they don't like their local Republican.

Picking up voters isn't the same as encouraging gay-hating billionaires who hate health care to run for senator, rep, etc.

Run against the politicians—the republican party as an institution—not the voters imo.

The text if Buttigieg’s big tent line is no different from Sanders’ tbh - Sanders just couches it in “approval of my policy ideas is broadly popular and crosses party lines” rhetoric

sanders' target demo is nonvoters and the majority-poc working class. this is the biggest bloc in the country. pete's target demo is 1) whitecollar dweebs; 2) suburban soft-republicans who think trump's "erratic" and the party's "lost its way" or whatever. these are actually not the same.

also the reason sanders "couches" it in those terms is he actually has saleable policy ideas. pete's policy idea is, we should all love one another, and also him. oh and that thing where we put 5 perfectly impartial dr. manhattans on the court.

And most of all, run on the issues. Avoid the appearance of being the candidate of upscale urban professionals.

Your impartial Supreme Court, ladies and gents!

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Agree with what dll said. I also agree with crut that the WWE style divisive rhetoric—“republican voters are monsters!”—is a tactic that can only benefit the right wing. It also obscures the reality. Sanders is running to fix problems that both republicans and democrats had a hand in creating. Red america vs blue america is a cartoon

Buttigieg said “Republicans with a conscience” and then Magary contorted that into “white supremacists” so I think we’re talking past each other

not sure targeting "nonvoters" is a great strategy tbh

nah it's excellent

it is a great strategy if they end up voting!

no flies on crut

yeah it's specifically targeting the group where the thing they most have in common in a tradition of not voting there's gotta be easier votes to pick off!

There’s no need for me to make a case against Pete Buttigieg because that craven asshole can’t be bothered to make one for himself.

and yet you wrote so many paragraphs

well obviously there are a lot of people disillusioned with the political process whom Bernie has given a shred of hope - I know some folks who will only vote if he’s the nom