Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

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Always good to see the 'Islam is not a race, it's a religion' crew pointing to Javid, who is no more of a Muslim than i am, in their defence against Tory Islamophobia.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:24 (six years ago)

Quite a nice capsule summary of the absolutely bovine complacency of a certain section of our commentary class, here. pic.twitter.com/4OEQ3bbbEC

— Flying_Rodent (@flying_rodent) November 7, 2019



tbf he’s no less of a Muslim either

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:27 (six years ago)

the only "comfort" in the face of this bullshit is that nobody seriously values the opinion of privileged, sheltered, right wing white men as to who's a racist or not. it's just a muddying of the waters in an arena that doesn't especially matter in terms of changing voters' minds.

Joe Kulak 😎 (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:32 (six years ago)

The claim Ian Austin is in the employ of the Tories is of course an anti-Semitic trope in itself.

This stuff is so ridiculously arcane, it can't survive without the air and amplification provided by repliers. Its the refuting that gives it the legs.

No idea what is gained by proving that this guy or this other guy is or isn't racist, what's it for?

anvil, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:33 (six years ago)

or, who's it for, I guess

anvil, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:33 (six years ago)

Tough gig this unpaid Trade Envoy gig. Labour should pledge to ensure all Trade Envoys earn a living wage for their hard work. Then sack Austin anyway.

nashwan, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:55 (six years ago)

/ The claim Ian Austin is in the employ of the Tories is of course an anti-Semitic trope in itself./

This stuff is so ridiculously arcane, it can't survive without the air and amplification provided by repliers. Its the refuting that gives it the legs.

No idea what is gained by proving that this guy or this other guy is or isn't racist, what's it for?


Dampen down the LDs thinking of voting for Labour by implying anyone who supports Labour is racist

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:02 (six years ago)

Tough gig this unpaid Trade Envoy gig. Labour should pledge to ensure all Trade Envoys earn a living wage for their hard work. Then sack Austin anyway.


unionise 👏🏻trade👏🏻envoys👏🏻

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:03 (six years ago)

pic.twitter.com/3X01N0GxTh

— Sarah_Woolley (@Sarah_Woolley) November 7, 2019

Simon H., Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:04 (six years ago)

:D

imago, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:07 (six years ago)

The idea that Boris Johnson says racist things but isn't actually racist is an assumption that can only be rooted in the politics of politeness - the mainstream political class as a social network where everyone goes to each other's dinner parties and nobody is *actually* bad.

— Chaminda Jayanetti (@cjayanetti) November 7, 2019



Corbyn is not afforded the same consideration and this is half People Like Us/People Who Aren’t but also wilful blindness as to whose intent does and doesn’t matter when it comes to racism.

Ian Austin and Boris both also big fans of that hero of the Bengalis and the Irish, Winston Churchill, but white supremacy of Churchill’s is so baked in that it doesn’t count.

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:29 (six years ago)

Johnson joked about dead Libyans but it doesn't mean he wants to murder them personally.

nashwan, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:35 (six years ago)

Obama had “ancestral” hatred towards Britain but that was totally normal. And of course how dare someone with Kenyan granddad who was tortured by the Brits be less than enthusiastic about Churchill!

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:37 (six years ago)

I have located a real life Liberal Democrat

I shall begin ethnographic studies tomorrow, but I can tell you this much already. They are pro death penalty

anvil, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:37 (six years ago)

Austin's a headbanger, everybody knows it, the Tories and the media are just pretending he isn't, same with Woodcock and Mann, to name but two.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:38 (six years ago)

The thing with Austin, Mann and Woodcock is that they are so clearly and viscerally unpleasant, I’m not sure they’re convincing anyone who wasn’t already looking for a reason.

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:44 (six years ago)

Exactly, they're all horrors and, if the Tories get back in they'll be out on their arses even quicker than Corbz would bin them.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:47 (six years ago)

And nobody mentions Woodcock’s sexual harassment allegations except people like us!

santa clause four (suzy), Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:47 (six years ago)

This is all a rehash of pre-2017 rhetoric partly because now they will probably use the LD surge, if it does end up costing Labour enough seats, to claim that the AS debacle has cut through this time.

nashwan, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:49 (six years ago)

Yes, funny how that just disappeared. Even TW’s stuff was included in all the front page stories today. Also interesting how his links to Erdogan are extremely fine and not remotely a cause for concern.

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:50 (six years ago)

Austin saying he was so broken up and conflicted about his 100 year service to the Labour Party, man and boy, that he didn't even consider switching to the Lib Dems - YOU SUPPORT BREXIT YOU UTTER TWAT.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:51 (six years ago)

These people are really small beer and they'll make negligible impact. The worst is Williamson, so angry I couldn't even enjoy Watson fucking off last night.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:52 (six years ago)

The Jewish Chronicle ran this piece only w few days ago

This thoughtful piece by Rabbi Howard Cooper is a must-read.

The far-right is infecting our politics, and we cannot be complacent about the threat that poses towards us.https://t.co/qhkpN0G5Az

— Jews Against Boris (@JewsAgainstBoJo) November 6, 2019

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:53 (six years ago)

These people are really small beer and they'll make negligible impact. The worst is Williamson, so angry I couldn't even enjoy Watson fucking off last night.


Angry cos he was a massive racist in his letter?

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:53 (six years ago)

The letter was garbage too but it's that he is standing as an independent and splitting the Lab vote, turning a marginal to the Tories.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:57 (six years ago)

yeah, totally shithouse move, CWvmic

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:59 (six years ago)

Yair Wallach provides some important context

When asked about the most important issues deciding their vote, Jewish voters brought up Brexit (31%), then antisemitism (19%) (or 26% if you also include the 7% who mentioned "stopping Corbyn" as their highest priority). https://t.co/sYCogrqsfx

— Yair Wallach (@YairWallach) October 30, 2019

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:02 (six years ago)

Austin and Woodcock are no doubt not standing in order to help the Tories but I'm pretty sure they've also been told their personal following in their constituencies is not as great as they fondly imagined. Ditto, who is going to vote for this unpleasant cunt, Williamson? Fingers crossed, lost deposit coming up.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:07 (six years ago)

Its tough to see even non unpopular independents doing well, never mind these guys

anvil, Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:09 (six years ago)

They must have a wee gang of acolytes in their clp, not going to go far with the electorate but enough to chip some labour support youd imagine

ت (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:14 (six years ago)

I really can’t see any of them outperforming Danczuk

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:20 (six years ago)

Williamson has a real rabid cult around him, but fingers crossed not enough of them are actually in his constituency, or he is just made to see sense and fuck off

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:26 (six years ago)

I really hope you are right and it's just the twitter following.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:29 (six years ago)

ian austin acting the total cunt on c4 news right now

Titanic was cliched Marxist crap. (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:30 (six years ago)

austin’s objections to johnson’s letterbox and watermelon smile bullshit with ‘i wouldn’t have chosen those words’ but otherwise he was making good points

get fucked

Titanic was cliched Marxist crap. (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:31 (six years ago)

Voters aren’t stupid, people know a grudge when they see one.

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:36 (six years ago)

Whereas I can see some of the Tory independents actually doing well

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:38 (six years ago)

I really can’t. This isn’t Ireland, people don’t really vote in independents (don’t @ me with examples). Grieve will hold onto his deposit but Soubry is a goner.

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:41 (six years ago)

aye he is a footnote distraction. news are all leading on the BIG SPENDING

Where the fuck do I sign up? pic.twitter.com/q7HJ79K1Hi

— Edward Ongweso Jr (@bigblackjacobin) November 7, 2019

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:41 (six years ago)

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/tom-watsons-departure-will-make-many-moderates-like-me-feel-theres-nothing-left-for-us-in-the-labour-party-919423

The opening of this is pretty hideous behaviour. But even the analysis is wrong because if Labour lose badly Corbyn is gone and things will surely be up for grabs again (we'll see what happens on Dec 12th is the hint) (ofc it's all internal claptrap, no mention of how fucked the country will be, just tears for these vile ppl)

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:44 (six years ago)

you can't really explain Corbynism without talking about New Labour's role in bringing in austerity and assisting the tories to continue it. Such deep soul searching going on here, because she doesn't even fucking mention it once.

calzino, Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:51 (six years ago)

This is a very good piece about Watson’s departure and the wider failure of Blairites. Plenty of good observations.

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/politics/%E2%80%A8tom-watsons-exit-is-the-end-of-the-end-for-new-labour-election-december-12-corbyn

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:53 (six years ago)

it was good back when mark s linked it earlier :p

imago, Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:55 (six years ago)

Sorry I dipped out after reading this total nonsense

It was a new creature where slavish loyalty to the leader was the only currency that mattered


I must have imagined Tony Blair?

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:55 (six years ago)

an evening is a long time in politics threads

imago, Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:56 (six years ago)

it was good back when mark s linked it earlier :p


I deserved tharb

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:56 (six years ago)

ffs

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:56 (six years ago)

Ayesha Hazarika? Is it her who has the parallel career as a stand up comedian? Enough said?

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:56 (six years ago)

gyac’s phone is just playing to the gallery now, pfft

YouGov to see it (wins), Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:57 (six years ago)

isn't Matt Tharb an American newspaper columnist

imago, Thursday, 7 November 2019 20:05 (six years ago)


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