Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

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That's a great post, gyac, thanks.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 7 November 2019 12:10 (six years ago)

Sisyphusa is an excellent follow.

The political editor at the JC is a former style mag journo who got his career at the tabloids by snitching on showbiz types for habits he was party to, and was lucky not to have been charged with phone hacking after being arrested for it in 2015. He elides and straight-up lies about antisemitism in Labour, which undermines the efforts of good people on the left who are working to eradicate it and educate people out of it.

santa clause four (suzy), Thursday, 7 November 2019 12:10 (six years ago)

I haven't seen the Jewish Chronicle* attitude in real life, but my Jewish friends are either literally in Jewdas, or don't tend to bring up Jeremy Corbyn in conversation, except in passing on how they're miserable about the whole state of politics - they're certainly not "Oh well, guess I have to vote Tory now"

* I initially wrote JC, but I can see that can be a little confusing!

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 7 November 2019 12:18 (six years ago)

jeebus chrisblyn

mark s, Thursday, 7 November 2019 12:25 (six years ago)

The last two days have been excellent for Labour on my football forum, really. I think something might be happening

― imago, Wednesday,

Labour are currently shorter odds than they were for Peterborough btw

anvil, Thursday, 7 November 2019 12:39 (six years ago)

750000 puppies are to be thrown over the white cliffs of Dover on Sunday. And this is all Crumblyn's fault.

calzino, Thursday, 7 November 2019 13:06 (six years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIufQfYWoAAFqRt?format=jpg

mark s, Thursday, 7 November 2019 13:09 (six years ago)

^ Lol

This...not so lol

Yes, tremendously disappointing from the Greens. Parties have every right to stand wherever they want, but don't pretend it's some "remain strategy" when standing in a marginal against a pro-remain left candidate. It's a mix of vanity exercise and arse-covering for Lib Dems. https://t.co/AF53NKXJP1

— James B (@piercepenniless) November 7, 2019

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 November 2019 13:10 (six years ago)

You'd need single glazing to be bothered by OTO if you're living on Arcola Street!

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 7 November 2019 13:16 (six years ago)

tories in disguise, hemp slippers, carbon offsetting, fuck the UK Green party.

calzino, Thursday, 7 November 2019 13:17 (six years ago)

Utter bellend

@Nick Boles
A vote for Corbyn is a vote for a racist. It’s as simple as that. twitter.com/jewishchron/st…

Warsi already called him out for it

nashwan, Thursday, 7 November 2019 13:23 (six years ago)

pic.twitter.com/FgdxZtOYqW

— 🎄𝕭𝖎𝖌 𝕭𝖚𝖉𝖉𝖞 🎄 (@socialistbangrs) November 7, 2019

calzino, Thursday, 7 November 2019 13:30 (six years ago)

Boles has always been a dick, fuck this Nice Tory shite.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 November 2019 13:31 (six years ago)

the tories in all parties are complete cunts

calzino, Thursday, 7 November 2019 13:33 (six years ago)

John Woodcock


The choice to keep Jeremy Corbyn away from Downing Street, to stop him getting his hands on the levers of national security and defence has to be to vote Conservative in this election and that’s what I’ll be doing as well.


lol remember this

NEW: Labour's NEC discussed a motion to de-select John Woodcock, comprehensively voted down. Tom Watson & Kezia Dugdale phoned in especially

— Jessica Elgot (@jessicaelgot) May 3, 2017

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 13:54 (six years ago)

interesting not least on how TW outmanoeuvred himself round the time of the umchuk rising:
https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/politics/%E2%80%A8tom-watsons-exit-is-the-end-of-the-end-for-new-labour-election-december-12-corbyn

mark s, Thursday, 7 November 2019 14:02 (six years ago)

lol mark's cafe oto thing

greens are playing this so stupidly

imago, Thursday, 7 November 2019 14:04 (six years ago)

good article

imago, Thursday, 7 November 2019 14:08 (six years ago)

if the levers of national security had different settings? like from Don't Let any Bloody Rum Business Occur to It's Terrorist Party Time. I wonder which setting Crumblyn would use.

calzino, Thursday, 7 November 2019 15:36 (six years ago)

lol here it is

If you don't believe that Lib Dem leader Jo Swinson was one of the key architects in the decision to hold a Brexit referendum in the first place, it's well worth reading her comments from 2008 which, astoundingly, are still live on her personal website:https://t.co/nmx3uWWyRy pic.twitter.com/hDEFMQ5B79

— Evolve Politics (@evolvepolitics) November 7, 2019

nashwan, Thursday, 7 November 2019 15:41 (six years ago)

But David Cameron cannot be forgiven for calling the referendum she agitated for. How the fuck anyone is taken in by these jokers

YouGov to see it (wins), Thursday, 7 November 2019 16:02 (six years ago)

the Overseas Friends of BJP UK, elegantly abbreviated to OFBJPUKill them all, are campaigning for the tories, targeting the constituencies of labour MPs who have signed letters 'against india' inc those of the only two sikh mps in the country.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/concerns-over-foreign-interference-as-india-linked-hindu-nationalist-group-targets-labour-candidates/

ogmor, Thursday, 7 November 2019 16:15 (six years ago)

Absolutely nothing sinister or bigoted there, oh no. Brb dying of old age waiting for a paper or broadcaster to give a shit about this.

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 16:47 (six years ago)

As I said upthread

4). The claim Ian Austin is in the employ of the Tories is of course an anti-Semitic trope in itself.

It's the classic "hidden threat".

The insinuation is Ian Austin is pretending really to be Mr Neutral, concerned about anti-Semitism, but really he is a Tory in disguise.

— Theo Usherwood (@theousherwood) November 7, 2019



These people are wilfully ignorant and dangerous cunts.

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:18 (six years ago)

@theousherwood
2). Ian Austin is the PM's trade envoy. That means should Labour win the election, he would be Corbyn's trade envoy to Israel for the length of time it would take the Labour leader to walk through the door to No10 and to his new study, pick up the phone and sack him.

Sounds good.

nashwan, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:20 (six years ago)

love too support “moderates”

You might more progress with your admirable campaign @SayeedaWarsi if you spend less time attacking your natural allies because they don’t measure up to your exacting standard of saintliness. Fortunately I do not have to put up with the egomania of people like you any more. https://t.co/K3Qld5W3Z3

— Nick Boles (@NickBoles) November 7, 2019

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:20 (six years ago)

😎 pic.twitter.com/52MdxMmvUt

— Turning Point UK (@TPointUK) November 3, 2019

ت (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:23 (six years ago)

Always good to see the 'Islam is not a race, it's a religion' crew pointing to Javid, who is no more of a Muslim than i am, in their defence against Tory Islamophobia.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:24 (six years ago)

Quite a nice capsule summary of the absolutely bovine complacency of a certain section of our commentary class, here. pic.twitter.com/4OEQ3bbbEC

— Flying_Rodent (@flying_rodent) November 7, 2019



tbf he’s no less of a Muslim either

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:27 (six years ago)

the only "comfort" in the face of this bullshit is that nobody seriously values the opinion of privileged, sheltered, right wing white men as to who's a racist or not. it's just a muddying of the waters in an arena that doesn't especially matter in terms of changing voters' minds.

Joe Kulak 😎 (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:32 (six years ago)

The claim Ian Austin is in the employ of the Tories is of course an anti-Semitic trope in itself.

This stuff is so ridiculously arcane, it can't survive without the air and amplification provided by repliers. Its the refuting that gives it the legs.

No idea what is gained by proving that this guy or this other guy is or isn't racist, what's it for?

anvil, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:33 (six years ago)

or, who's it for, I guess

anvil, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:33 (six years ago)

Tough gig this unpaid Trade Envoy gig. Labour should pledge to ensure all Trade Envoys earn a living wage for their hard work. Then sack Austin anyway.

nashwan, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:55 (six years ago)

/ The claim Ian Austin is in the employ of the Tories is of course an anti-Semitic trope in itself./

This stuff is so ridiculously arcane, it can't survive without the air and amplification provided by repliers. Its the refuting that gives it the legs.

No idea what is gained by proving that this guy or this other guy is or isn't racist, what's it for?


Dampen down the LDs thinking of voting for Labour by implying anyone who supports Labour is racist

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:02 (six years ago)

Tough gig this unpaid Trade Envoy gig. Labour should pledge to ensure all Trade Envoys earn a living wage for their hard work. Then sack Austin anyway.


unionise 👏🏻trade👏🏻envoys👏🏻

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:03 (six years ago)

pic.twitter.com/3X01N0GxTh

— Sarah_Woolley (@Sarah_Woolley) November 7, 2019

Simon H., Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:04 (six years ago)

:D

imago, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:07 (six years ago)

The idea that Boris Johnson says racist things but isn't actually racist is an assumption that can only be rooted in the politics of politeness - the mainstream political class as a social network where everyone goes to each other's dinner parties and nobody is *actually* bad.

— Chaminda Jayanetti (@cjayanetti) November 7, 2019



Corbyn is not afforded the same consideration and this is half People Like Us/People Who Aren’t but also wilful blindness as to whose intent does and doesn’t matter when it comes to racism.

Ian Austin and Boris both also big fans of that hero of the Bengalis and the Irish, Winston Churchill, but white supremacy of Churchill’s is so baked in that it doesn’t count.

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:29 (six years ago)

Johnson joked about dead Libyans but it doesn't mean he wants to murder them personally.

nashwan, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:35 (six years ago)

Obama had “ancestral” hatred towards Britain but that was totally normal. And of course how dare someone with Kenyan granddad who was tortured by the Brits be less than enthusiastic about Churchill!

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:37 (six years ago)

I have located a real life Liberal Democrat

I shall begin ethnographic studies tomorrow, but I can tell you this much already. They are pro death penalty

anvil, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:37 (six years ago)

Austin's a headbanger, everybody knows it, the Tories and the media are just pretending he isn't, same with Woodcock and Mann, to name but two.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:38 (six years ago)

The thing with Austin, Mann and Woodcock is that they are so clearly and viscerally unpleasant, I’m not sure they’re convincing anyone who wasn’t already looking for a reason.

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:44 (six years ago)

Exactly, they're all horrors and, if the Tories get back in they'll be out on their arses even quicker than Corbz would bin them.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:47 (six years ago)

And nobody mentions Woodcock’s sexual harassment allegations except people like us!

santa clause four (suzy), Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:47 (six years ago)

This is all a rehash of pre-2017 rhetoric partly because now they will probably use the LD surge, if it does end up costing Labour enough seats, to claim that the AS debacle has cut through this time.

nashwan, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:49 (six years ago)

Yes, funny how that just disappeared. Even TW’s stuff was included in all the front page stories today. Also interesting how his links to Erdogan are extremely fine and not remotely a cause for concern.

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:50 (six years ago)

Austin saying he was so broken up and conflicted about his 100 year service to the Labour Party, man and boy, that he didn't even consider switching to the Lib Dems - YOU SUPPORT BREXIT YOU UTTER TWAT.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:51 (six years ago)

These people are really small beer and they'll make negligible impact. The worst is Williamson, so angry I couldn't even enjoy Watson fucking off last night.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:52 (six years ago)

The Jewish Chronicle ran this piece only w few days ago

This thoughtful piece by Rabbi Howard Cooper is a must-read.

The far-right is infecting our politics, and we cannot be complacent about the threat that poses towards us.https://t.co/qhkpN0G5Az

— Jews Against Boris (@JewsAgainstBoJo) November 6, 2019

gyac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:53 (six years ago)


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