Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

Ex Labour MPs Chris Williamson, Stephen Hepburn and Roger Godsiff are dropped as candidates in the general election, by the NEC I understand.

— Tamara Cohen (@tamcohen) November 6, 2019

Cleggmania revisited.

Except nobody likes Jo Swinson.

(xps) This is all a bit baffling, Not Tim Farron is really her claim to fame after all.

A good start but so many more that could be culled.

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cullin' stink

Some bit on the BBC news just now about online voting. That would be sweeeeeet, we'd either never have another Tory government or the Prime Minister would be somebody off Love Island.

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Lesser spotted Lembit Opik there pic.twitter.com/DPUm2031xK

— Loki Belmont (@Lokinash06) November 4, 2019

They look like very cheeky girls.

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My only worry is that when you're at the bottom the only way is up.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/06/alun-cairns-welsh-secretary-resigns-from-cabinet-over-trial-allegations

it’ll go lower

V good news from the NEC.

Asked this before, but does anyone actually know any Lib Dems? There's one guy I suspect but hes more of a 'strong women Jess Phillips 4 PM' kind of guy, though hes prime target for it

There's been a few on ILX over the years.

I remember someone on the 2010 edition of this thread arguing in favour of the coalition but I don't they if they stuck around very long.

I've met a couple in the past, but the 2019 incarnation is a more elusive breed.

I know a couple of people who were (pre-2010) very pro LD, to the point of being doorstepping activists, because they were soooo angry abt the iraq war and nu-lab home office illberalism, since (under c.kennedy) the LDs had a p strong game against both, at least verbally. they were suspicious of the cleggies and the orange-book turn but felt the body of the party would act as a brake on the worst impulses. they were incandescently angry abt the coalition and have been fairly robustly pro-corbyn since this became an option.

I would guess that maybe 60% or more of my school peers are currently Lib Dems

...so in summary, if you want to meet Lib Dems, hang out with urbanite poshos

I mean I don't hang out with them unless I'm playing cricket with them, don't @ moi

I think the only LD I know I know is the local high profile pothole pointer and he's

Well, he's not cool

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But this is a decade ago, and incarnations later. Where are they all?

And the growing ranks of 'politically homeless', the Linekers. If theLib Dems aren't picking these guys up it's not good for them. Can only presume it's DCI Swinson herself

There's quite a lot of LD sentiment on the decidedly not-posh football forum I frequent too. Generally all adults-in-room types who love reason and science. I think they're a loud minority

The Linekers, exactly

A few queer tories, and a couple who have remained steadfast in their commitment to liberalism despite being "beans on toast or we can't pay our rent" poor at the start of the decade.

Jo Swindon says there'll be extra money for mental health care if she's in government and tbf a lot of people would probably think they were experiencing psychotic delusions if she was

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But Lineker isn't a Lib Dem? He's a 'politically homeless'

Or is that more of a blue tick thing?

I know several LDs, all of whom are anti-Corbyn to a Dan Hodges extent. I also know some Tories who are considering voting LD, but not sure how certain that sentiment is.

I think the only LD I know I know is the local high profile pothole pointer

they've moved on from potholes fyi

pic.twitter.com/BoLBouUhzX

— Huw Lemmey (@huwlemmey) November 6, 2019

There's quite a lot of LD sentiment on the decidedly not-posh football forum I frequent too. Generally all adults-in-room types who love reason and science. I think they're a loud minority

― imago, 6. november 2019 15:11 (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Question from afar: Do you know how they have reacted to all these... 'small print' statements about which candidate could win where, which might not always technically be complete lies and fabrications, but which definitely hasn't seemed that scientific and reasonable...

I have this friend who once had impure thoughts about Jo Swinson, but he immediately made amends by going to confession and kneeling on rice in the cellar wearing a hairshirt for 6 hours.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIr851iWkAE0oSz?format=jpg&name=large sorry if this has been posted upthread but this is coming across like they’re trying to brand her and also that they have one photo that polls well

I wonder how big a “fuck the lot of them I won’t vote” effect this will have on the Tory vote. They won’t be keen to go out in December for a kick off.

Question from afar: Do you know how they have reacted to all these... 'small print' statements about which candidate could win where, which might not always technically be complete lies and fabrications, but which definitely hasn't seemed that scientific and reasonable...

― Frederik B, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 14:19 (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

This was more or less the moment lots of them started to have serious doubts about Swinson lol

A few weakly said they'd still vote LD mind

I wonder how big a “fuck the lot of them I won’t vote” effect this will have on the Tory vote. They won’t be keen to go out in December for a kick off.

That Jo Swindon poster doesn't feature the words Liberal Democrats

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I like the symbolism of the blue-on-red: Tory on the outside, Labour on the inside!

they have one photo that polls well

a photo that, it must be said, doesn't look much like jo swinson

Are those earrings shaped like padlocks?

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Oh look, Pret have just brought their Xmas sandwich out, I'm a Lib Dem now

possibly a plurality of my old colleagues in my benighted field are almost uncontrollably hostile to corbyn and as a consequence now and then faintly and momentarily LD-curious but their hearts REALLY aren't in it -- they were grumpily sceptical from the get-go abt the umchuk uprising and tbh only seem reactively pro-blair, even

(which i guess is the definition of "homeless" -- i think it's was always quite a built-in stance in said field to basically be dismissive of ALL grown-up politics. voting only encourages them is a very countercultural type of wised-up cynicism, and i think to the extent some of them gravitated towards it, they were also gravitating towards mortgages and such, disgruntled and dry-drunk joyless)

booming post

Oh look, Pret have just brought their Xmas sandwich out, I'm a Lib Dem now

booming post rendered fatally ambiguous bcz the referent for the "it" in the last line is not well nailed down (it's "voting" not "cynicism")

lol, tt remarked to me only a few hours ago that Wimbledon is opening a Leon

seemed unambiguously what you said, mark!

Makes sense Mark. Makes it difficult for LibDems to scoop up 'politically homeless' because that means switching identity - there's nothing tangible they can offer to persuade people to switch because its nothing to do with the tangible (and also they're not really offering anything tangible anyway)

"disgruntled and dry-drunk joyless"

there go i if not for the grace of cheap booze

These voters seem too clustered geographically to matter also.

The closest anyone has come to the genuine centre ground* is probably Farage but is far too right wing economically to have made a genuine go at it

*supports death penalty but not bothered enough about it to make a thing out of it

That list on the stupid poster seems pretty good, but... wouldn't it be more likely to get Corbyn rather than Johnson to agree with that program?

Could it be so simple as that the succes of Macron has made them lose their minds?

can swap out death penalty out for nukes or Brexit, whatever takes your fancy

I think they lost their minds way before Macron's victory lap