Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

Excuse me, got bills to pay.

(xp)

Pretty good piece (no investigation as such) although the gap for me is what happens -- as is likely -- Swinson is voted out. Would there be a shift?

https://www.huckmag.com/perspectives/opinion-perspectives/what-do-the-lib-dems-actually-want-an-investigation/

can't imagine why there'd be a shift in a party which has literally absorbed tories into its quivering corpus, society-style

we really do live in a society

Great now I'm gonna have dreams about Vince Cables shoving his head up somebody's anus

idk if Ed Davey is up for it but it would be legit hilarious, if he isn't, for the party to have to make a choice between an ex-Labour candidate and an ex-Tory one at the next leadership election. I can't imagine it'll have an impact on continuity Orange Book policy either way, though.

fucking finally, i'll not be suffering along anymore xp

er, alone

This is where an investigation into their activist base would be useful. I get the sense that some are really unhappy at the Tory MP intake. If Lab end up being the largest party with no majority...be interesting to see what the LDs could be up for.

Potentially, yes. I think Layla Moran is probably the last of your actual Lib Dems in with a shot of being a future leader, beyond that it'd be down to someone like Allen or Berger. I can't see either of them being any more enthusiastic about putting Corbyn in no.10 than Swinson is. I wouldn't bet against more of the activist base simply drifting away if an ex-Tory took over.

Lib Dem activist is oxymoronic tbf

Lindsay obviously the right man for the speaker's chair as he is already used to watching the action from sideways on

JRM "profoundly sorry" for his Grenfell comments the lying cunt

the gap for me is what happens -- as is likely -- Swinson is voted out. Would there be a shift?

The big question! Its difficult to know because we only ever see or hear Swinson, actual LDs seem more difficult to locate. I think they'll swing behind whoever comes in and if the delivery is right they'll shift to what that is (if it is a shift). I'n not sure content really matters, just as Brexit is now whatever Boris says it is. I think they can shift away from Remain pretty easily if necessary

https://www.huckmag.com/perspectives/opinion-perspectives/what-do-the-lib-dems-actually-want-an-investigation/

They don't really want anything, other than primacy. Identity politics isn't about the tangible, so there's nothing there to want, other than seats at the table. This idea of looking for tangibility and substance in places it doesn't exist, its the same mistake repeated

I think they can shift away from Remain pretty easily if necessary

This is the one thing they cannot do?

This idea of looking for tangibility and substance in places it doesn't exist, its the same mistake repeated

cf the Labour government 1997-2010

no more skeletons in the closet, definitely not: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-50302172

Bridgen blasting holes in the sinking boat on PM right now

[Q: Did Rees-Mogg want to say he would not have stayed put?] That is exactly what he wanted to say.

[Q: Is he saying he is cleverer than the people who died?] *silence* But we want very clever people running the country, don't we? Jacob is very well educated ... very clever ... we need people like that. People will want the very best people, the brightest and best making decisions for them. Nothing that Jacob said detracts from his ability to make the best decision for people.

Incredibly thoughtful and careful interview from @ABridgen right now on #pm.

— emily m (@maitlis) November 5, 2019

fuck me

nuke london

(sorry for all the collateral damage but the media class would be decimated in a stroke)

This prospective Tory candidate is the guy who said women should ''keep their knickers on'' to avoid being raped. The same man who (falsely) claimed the BBC were going to report me to the police over my petition to have him sacked unless I took it down. https://t.co/fFOLICDb3R

— Kirsty Strickland (@KirstyStricklan) November 5, 2019

(sorry for all the collateral damage but the media class would be decimated in a stroke)

I’m honestly not sure

I thought she was but oh god what if she isn't

I bet she is - given the smug guy who does Times coverage said he is widely disliked among Westminster reporters.

And his own party calls him “spud-u-hate”.

tbf there's loads of media class in Manchester now so we might need a couple of nukes

pretty sure Maitlis is Tory to the core

Bridgen's 'argument' falls down on the fact that it's become increasingly clear that Rees-Mogg is a fucking shit-for-brains idiot.

I think they can shift away from Remain pretty easily if necessary

This is the one thing they cannot do?

― Andrew Farrell,

Why not?

I'm with you on that one.

Anyone* affected by the Jim reign of fire is welcome to shelter with us.


LLib Dems can’t pivot away, because what else can they offer that Labour don’t outflank them on, either in terms of probability or radical ness?

*probably two max sry

I don't mean right now!

Indeed, post-election they can be that vital moderating influence agan.

Yeah they'll ensure the Tories don't oh fuck it I can't

Except they also know what happened last time they were a moderating influence?

And this is a bigger issue than tuition fees.

There are many extraordinary/fascinating things about that interview. One is Bridgen’s complete deference to JRM and his authority and intellect despite some considerable evidence to the contrary today. Voice, breeding and background still count for so much in England.

— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) November 5, 2019

Tell me about it, Mark Francois has more brains than JRM.

They do but only with cunts tbf

maitlis must have meant “interview of”

must have

People are too impatient for pivots! Patience!

And this is a bigger issue than tuition fees.

― xyzzzz__,

To their voters? We'll see, not convinced of that one.

Except they also know what happened last time they were a moderating influence?

on a separate note Lewis Goodall has been really good for Sky News - shame he’s going to Newsnight tbh.

I reckon it is, yeah. Cuts across the age range a lot more I'd say.

xxp the membership and many of the party. MPs lost seats over this

Did the membership of the Lib Dems has decline significantly after/during the coalition? I don't know but I'm guessing not.

Dropped by a third.

on a separate note Lewis Goodall has been really good for Sky News - shame he’s going to Newsnight tbh.