Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

Vote Lib Dems to get rid of Tories

LDs

Incredible that @joswinson would choose to launch her party's campaign in the most marginal seat in the country. A vote for Lib Dem in Kensington is a cross in the box for Boris' Brexit. It really is that straight forward. pic.twitter.com/21InAVq1To

— lewis bassett (@le_bassett) November 3, 2019

"Many of them, I think, are on the Left and very serious and principled."

Counter: Brexit has melted Caroline Lucas' brain.

am loving ppl calling the lib dems "centrist analytica"

I think Brexit has just revealed what Caroline is really about, now the space right wing Labour gave her to seem left-leaning has gone.

I think 'Brexit has melted her brain' (pun intentional?) was closer

Fuck the Greens (no pun, always intentional)

we've established I'm supporting Labour over them but that is some Dr Morbius shit, your aim should be to persuade more Green voters to support Labour not hurl abuse #BeKindOnline

Oh wait Morbs is the one who votes Green lol, I always forget

Don't forget folks, the OG Green Party was the NSDAP's #BeKindOnline #LibDemsinDisguise

can't get Transformers!LibDemsinDisguise out of my head now!

Vote how you want LJ, nobody cares, just don't pop up and tone police anytime anyone on here doesn't love the Greens. It's just not going to work.

I agree with imago.

I don't think most of the people who've been working for the Green party and going nowhere for 20 years were doing it because they were right-wing / centrist / Swinson crap.

I think most of them were, still are, good and principled people with good priorities.

If a Green publishes a bad online message -- well that person might be their equivalent of Jess Phillips or Liz Kendall. You don't dismiss Labour because those people are in the party.

you can't spell eugenics without two e's and then going GRRR! But seriously I have a strong inkling that at least 72.1 % of Greens will either be breaking neo-Malthusian nazi or breaking melt when the going gets tough.

greens being posh-friendly helps them win seats esp that labour can't, this is def a good thing

*esp locally

seats you say sir?

The tweet is to highlight how alone Labour really are -- with all its problems, like Liz and Jess and whoever else -- as the sole progressive party. A lot of LDs and Greens have chosen this moment to round up on Labour. But yeah if they get Tories to not vote Tory that's good.

If they are 'melts' - like S. Kinnock or whatever - then why have they been bashing their heads against the wall working for a principled but hopeless fringe party, to the left of Labour, for the last few decades?

The theory only makes sense if it posits a large number of 'new Greens', who have only come in in the last 5 years or so, and are closer to Lib Dem, anti-Brexit-march types. That could be accurate. But it doesn't account for their historic actvist and voter base.

I think quite a lot of ppl see voting green as a compromise instead of not engaging w/ politics at all

They might do.

But a lot of other people might think it's the right thing to do as they see ecological catastrophe as the #1 issue and think the Greens might have similar priorities.

I have voted Green in various European and local elections, the kind where you get multiple votes and there's no danger in doing it.

My safe Labour MP isn't great, and won't interpret a vote for her as a vote for JC (she's the type who likes making a BS show of 'I won't be scared to tell JC what I think!'), but I suppose I'll still vote for her as my only way of voting for JC, Macca et al.

Greens standing aside in at least one marginal.

Need to persuade Green voters, but not just them. Need to persuade Lib Dem voters, Conservative voters, non-voters. People vote for all kinds of weird reasons, people are reachable, voters can't be the enemy

Agree.

Labour and the Greens should not attack each other.

Probably the only reason Labour should maybe stand vs Lucas is their formal commitment to stand everywhere (... except NI).

credit due, they did do the right thing in one marginal so far. That's one positive I guess. Poor people without cars and who haven't had a holiday in over a decade are the real Greens imo. And I wouldn't trust that party to act in their interests as far as I could throw Caroline /Soubz (they seem like conjoined twins that repeatedly go Gnuuu GNuu these days!).

Some more tough transformer talk, this time from Nrigella Frarag:

I led Ukip into the 2015 general election. I had all the same stuff, all the same arguments. The Tory tribe screaming and shouting, ‘Don’t take our votes’.

The Ukip vote took more votes from Labour than it did from the Conservatives, David Cameron wouldn’t have even got a majority without Ukip.

We are going to hurt the Labour party in the most extraordinary way. We’ll do it in South Wales, we’ll do it in the Midlands, we’ll do it in the north of England.

Those Labour voters have been completely betrayed by the Labour party. They are my number one target. I got those votes in 2015, I’ll do it again.

Soubry is disgusting scum.

Is Lucas really close to her? Disappointing if so.

Yes, poor people with low carbon footprint are 'de facto green' - fine.

But if you think that's a good thing, then it is somewhat logical to vote for a party focused on being ... green.

Historically, Green policies have been on the Left. If that's changed, it must be a specific recent development.

I'm employing a bit of the old hyperbole there Pinefox, but they did pop up next to each other with Blackford, and were finishing each others sentences calling for a GNU. This was after everyone got a bit excited over the proroguing of parliament.

the un-proroguing of parliament I should have said.

anti-roguing

(in the old days we did this with a guillotine etc)

This Labour Party mob must be some crack outfit, everyone is attacking them and everyone is targeting their seats - makes sense because they've been in power for... er... hold on...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/04/elections-solutions-politics-scandal-lies

Farage apparently only targeting 'votes' rather than seats - not convinced he actually wants any BXP candidate to win. Much like his argument against running as an MP, he can only operate from the 'outside'. If they do win a seat it will be largely accidental.

Jill thinks "this Labour Party mob must be some crack outfit"

Labour is a Leave Party disguising itself as sitting on the fence (trust us, vote for us, and then we'll let you know which way we'll jump) and Gareth Eales is a Corbynite. Could you really vote for that?

— Jill Hope 🔶🔶🔶 (@JillHopeLibDem) November 4, 2019

Gove having a total Govedown on Twitter this morning.

do some fucking work michael

actually, on second thoughts, keep wasting time on twitter michael

mr fucking knitted bobby-sox has gone as short as 1/25 to be next speaker now.

tbh i liked hoyle's socks, it was the rest of the room that was horrible -- like an upcoming series of twin peaks set in the BEIGE LODGE

that room was a dead person pretending to be alive room!

Candidates are:
Chris Bryant (Lab)
Harriet Harman (Lab)
Meg Hillier (Lab)
Sir Lindsay Hoyle (Lab)
Dame Eleanor Laing (Con)
Sir Edward Leigh (Con)
Dame Rosie Winterton (Lab)

sheet showing where parties are standing down to endorse other parties
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/106pw1Q5I0xmUmilb-M3IKe9SUfRD6QDQQUWSa_RYz8E/edit#gid=0

twin-set peaks

Yeah he was having a very normal time of it last night

Yup! Dom and I are Putin-believing, Stalin-apologising, Moscow line friends of anti-western groups like Sinn Fein, Hamas and Hezbollah #brexitderangementsyndrome #maybethatsanotherguy https://t.co/QWgsO9OOz8

— Michael Gove (@michaelgove) November 3, 2019

don't dish it out if you can't take it!

Sinn Fein not standing in South or East Belfast to boost Alliance candidates (not sure it will have much impact against the DUP in the latter though).

Farage apparently only targeting 'votes' rather than seats - not convinced he actually wants any BXP candidate to win. Much like his argument against running as an MP, he can only operate from the 'outside'.

This has pretty much been Johnson's MO up to now in a sense, sniping from the sidelines with little chance of retribution. His ego probably told him he has what it takes to be a hard-man Erdoğan type leader, which predictably isn't quite panning out. Looking forward to the BXP and Tory right tipping into outright war with each other over the next month though (hopefully this will happen).

Weirdos

The new countdown clock at ⁦@Conservatives⁩ HQ pic.twitter.com/hI6hEDQCxc

— Harriett Baldwin (@hbaldwin) November 4, 2019

tony's launching a coup isn't he

European commission president elect Ursula von der Leyen will meet Tony Blair on Wednesday (at his request) to discuss a "series of topical issues".
Commission spokes decline to elaborate further.

— Jennifer Rankin (@JenniferMerode) November 4, 2019

Sinn Fein not standing in South or East Belfast to boost Alliance candidates (not sure it will have much impact against the DUP in the latter though).

SDLP not running #GE2019 candidates in three constituencies: North Belfast, East Belfast and North Down: https://t.co/Q56UX7ox2P pic.twitter.com/fX6GeeJsz0

— BBC News NI (@BBCNewsNI) November 4, 2019

Whistleblower required.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/04/no-10-blocks-russia-eu-referendum-report-until-after-election

Sean Bean endorses Jeremy Corbyn for giving the working class a voice.https://t.co/1UKGL1oAh2

— Jill Gore (@JillGore8) November 4, 2019

luvvie not a melt shockah!

ffs it's 4 years old!