US Politics, November 2019: These people are truly sick.

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🏆 COVFEFE has won the @BreedersCup Filly & Mare Sprint. pic.twitter.com/gPMc1hoj2F

— World Horse Racing (@WHR) November 2, 2019

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 November 2019 19:37 (six years ago)

hit the trifecta with longshots Smocking Gun and Phone Tapp

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 2 November 2019 20:11 (six years ago)

(xpost to mookie) Yes--when I was supplying in the early-'90s, before I moved to full-time, I had an American tell me he thought it meant I came in and organized the supply cupboard.

clemenza, Saturday, 2 November 2019 20:36 (six years ago)

The President is here and the boos are deafening. #UFC244 pic.twitter.com/MbQdKIvuil

— Ricardo Montero (@RicardoMonteroH) November 3, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 3 November 2019 03:18 (six years ago)

wow, impossible to prove from the recording but the house music certainly seems to get louder about 30 seconds in. could just be the phone recording but it also seems like something the president's handlers would tell the production crew ahead of time, juuuuuuuuuust in case maybe the entire stadium wants to boo at the worst fucking dipshit on the planet

at home in the alternate future, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 3 November 2019 03:23 (six years ago)

This WaPo story fills in some blanks. It’s kind of funny because it’s all these guys going, “We could just never understand where his obsession with Ukraine came from ...”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/a-presidential-loathing-for-ukraine-is-at-the-heart-of-the-impeachment-inquiry/2019/11/02/8280ee60-fcc5-11e9-ac8c-8eced29ca6ef_story.html

In the fall of 2017, Trump was set to meet with then-Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko at the United Nations in New York. At the time, U.S. officials were working to convince Trump that Ukraine, locked in a long war with Russian-backed forces, was worthy of American support.
Then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson told Volker that he would have about 45 seconds to brief Trump ahead of his meeting with Poroshenko. If Trump was interested in learning more, Tillerson said, the president would ask questions. Volker rushed through his pitch, according to former U.S. officials who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive diplomatic topics.
Trump then peppered Volker with his negative views of Ukraine, suggesting that it wasn’t a “real country,” that it had always been a part of Russia, and that it was “totally corrupt.”

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 3 November 2019 11:47 (six years ago)

His entire worldview is parroted Russian talking points.

Sam Weller, Sunday, 3 November 2019 12:17 (six years ago)

Getting booed by the UFC crowd is really something

frogbs, Sunday, 3 November 2019 13:12 (six years ago)

good morning!!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 November 2019 13:15 (six years ago)

We slept the whole night through

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Sunday, 3 November 2019 13:19 (six years ago)

wow, the UFC crowd really hate AC/DC

StanM, Sunday, 3 November 2019 13:27 (six years ago)

Fake blues!

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Sunday, 3 November 2019 13:28 (six years ago)

Then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson told Volker that he would have about 45 seconds to brief Trump ahead of his meeting with Poroshenko. If Trump was interested in learning more, Tillerson said, the president would ask questions. Volker rushed through his pitch, according to former U.S. officials who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive diplomatic topics.


Come on Volker, step up your gain. You can’t rush your 45 second pitch on Ukraine, we’ve been over this

at home in the alternate future, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 3 November 2019 14:28 (six years ago)

Step up your gain. Sigh. This is how facts gets distorted.

at home in the alternate future, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 3 November 2019 14:29 (six years ago)

xp lol stan

at home in the alternate future, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 3 November 2019 14:30 (six years ago)

xp km vg

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 3 November 2019 14:46 (six years ago)

The Angry Majority!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 3, 2019

at home in the alternate future, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 3 November 2019 16:49 (six years ago)

what's weird is that just before that he was bragging about his 95% approval rate among republicans. so is that who is angry? it must be, right? he's not going to say republicans aren't in the majority (even though they're not)

at home in the alternate future, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 3 November 2019 16:50 (six years ago)

No I think he means his base, the majority, is rightfully angered

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 3 November 2019 17:02 (six years ago)

tbf though almost everybody is pretty angry

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 3 November 2019 17:03 (six years ago)

I think there's gonna be a fight

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 3 November 2019 17:03 (six years ago)

an ultimate fight

esempio (crüt), Sunday, 3 November 2019 17:13 (six years ago)

there was a long ass NPR opinion piece yesterday kind of chiding him for goiing to UFC when there are lots of nice things to do in NYC this weekend that don't involve people beating the fuck out of each other, and noted that the audience for this was likely to be more welcoming to him than the baseball audience. Well, guess not.

akm, Sunday, 3 November 2019 17:18 (six years ago)

“the angry majority” refers to the house imo

however he’s a huge dumbass whose meanings are not worth parsing

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 November 2019 17:27 (six years ago)

xpost

there are other clips from other spots in the audience where all you can hear are cheers, and the boos are drowned out. there were probably a ton of cheers and boos in the audience, from all sides. this is just another one of those "take a screen capture of trump or someone behind him at a particular moment and analyze it to death" scenarios

at home in the alternate future, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 3 November 2019 17:30 (six years ago)

both sides

at home in the alternate future, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 3 November 2019 17:30 (six years ago)

the screen capture that PROVES that president trump has lost his MARBLES and can't even find his own SHOES any more!!

at home in the alternate future, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 3 November 2019 17:31 (six years ago)

He used the same phrase a few days ago to mean Republican voters.

“The American people are fed up with Democrat lies, hoaxes and extremism,” said Trump. The Democrats, he said, “have created an angry majority that will vote many do-nothing Democrats out of office in 2020.”

jmm, Sunday, 3 November 2019 17:43 (six years ago)

ahhh

horrible

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 November 2019 17:45 (six years ago)

It's weird, but you might be getting an anti-Nixon moment. That is, there might be a very large 'silent majority' who just want those angry idiots to shut the fuck up and not tweet and not yell and not do crimes. After Trump loses everything but West Virginia they will walk around bewildered and go 'but I don't know anybody who voted for Warren?'

Frederik B, Sunday, 3 November 2019 20:40 (six years ago)

After Trump loses everything but West Virginia

well, it's nice to dream

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 3 November 2019 20:56 (six years ago)

I bet he gets FL, OH and maybe (probably?) NC but picking up any other “swing” states seems unlikely as of today. Totally going off nothing other than my gut here.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Sunday, 3 November 2019 20:59 (six years ago)

He is def going to win FL and OH

Οὖτις, Sunday, 3 November 2019 21:57 (six years ago)

Tinhat time:

That’s three whistleblowers. What about the other four? Cockburn’s source says that at least one is nothing to do with Ukraine but instead was reporting a call between Trump and the Saudi ruler, Mohammed bin Salman. Specifically, the whistleblower is said to have ‘concerns’ about what was said on the call about the president’s son-in-law and adviser, Jared Kushner. Kushner himself is known to have a very close relationship with MBS. Cockburn has previously written that Kushner may have been what Cosmo would call an ‘oversharer’ when it came to MBS. Unfortunately, it’s claimed that what he was sharing was American secrets: information Kushner had requested from the CIA would (allegedly) be echoed back in US intercepts of calls between members of the Saudi royal family. One source said this was why Kushner lost his intelligence clearances for a while.

According to Cockburn’s source about the seven whistleblowers, there’s more. It is that Kushner (allegedly) gave the green light to MBS to arrest the dissident journalist, Jamal Khashoggi, who was later murdered and dismembered in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul. A second source tells Cockburn that this is true and adds a crucial twist to the story. This source claims that Turkish intelligence obtained an intercept of the call between Kushner and MBS. And President Erdogan used it to get Trump to roll over and pull American troops out of northern Syria before the Turks invaded. Cockburn hears that investigators for the House Intelligence Committee know this whole tale and the identities of some of the people telling it. Whether any of is true is another matter but Adam Schiff certainly seems to be smiling a lot these days.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 November 2019 14:27 (six years ago)

Well, if Adam Schiff is smiling then Trump is definitely going to be removed in a few days!

Frederik B, Monday, 4 November 2019 14:32 (six years ago)

We got them! It’s over!!!!!

at home in the alternate future, (Karl Malone), Monday, 4 November 2019 14:33 (six years ago)

In this timeline a pee tape is like the least possible conspiracy.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 November 2019 14:41 (six years ago)

speaking of cockburn

non-euclidean lenin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 4 November 2019 14:44 (six years ago)

Always remove tape before peeing to prevent cockburn

Feed Me Wheat Thins (Old Lunch), Monday, 4 November 2019 14:50 (six years ago)

good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 November 2019 14:52 (six years ago)

josh can you link that^

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 4 November 2019 15:02 (six years ago)

The two witnesses who had been subpoenaed to testify at 9am - NSC lawyer John Eisenberg and Mulvaney deputy Rob Blair - did not arrive. The other two who were subpoenaed - Eisenberg deputy Michael Ellis and OMB official/former Energy chief McCormack - also expected no-shows at 2p

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) November 4, 2019

Live updates: White House lawyer to defy House subpoena; Trump sees ‘no reason’ to summon witnesses on Ukraine call https://t.co/yVgEgtxuCn

— Ellen Nakashima (@nakashimae) November 4, 2019

weird they're doing this given the phone call was so perfect

frogbs, Monday, 4 November 2019 15:10 (six years ago)

Can I link it? Yes I can!

https://spectator.us/seven-whistleblowers-jared-kushner-bin-salman/

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 November 2019 15:59 (six years ago)

hrm this seems sketchy unless I guess someone at NYT/WP validates parts of this in the next day or two

sort of liberal definition of the term "whistleblower" here

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 4 November 2019 16:06 (six years ago)

"a source tells cockburn" says cockburn

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 4 November 2019 16:08 (six years ago)

weird they're doing this given the phone call was so perfect

It's the principle of the thing, they're protecting executive privilege for future presidents who might have less perfect phone calls.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 4 November 2019 16:18 (six years ago)

did have a nice conversation over the weekend with a well-off dude who is not necessarily a Trump fan but votes for him anyway because he doesn't like "paying for other people's stuff"

basically he thinks 'impeachment' means the Dems are desperate because they know they can't beat him in 2020, that the phone call didn't say "if you do this I will do that" so it's actually fine

I tried to explain that there's a lot more to the story but then he was like "well you can't just reverse the results of the election"

fwiw this is probably the smartest Trump supporter I know

frogbs, Monday, 4 November 2019 16:25 (six years ago)

"well you can't just reverse the results of the election"

When Trump is removed, all of us who wrote-in Pence are going to be cackling with glee

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 4 November 2019 16:28 (six years ago)

Impeachment is not "reversing" or "short circuiting" an election, for fuck's sake. It's a legal, legitimate step that has fuck-all to do with an election.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 November 2019 16:28 (six years ago)

well then why is it being called a witch hunt? I've totally heard that a lot, so it must be true.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 4 November 2019 16:31 (six years ago)


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