2020 Democratic presidential primary

Mayor Pete probably has the Dem 'anybody but a boomer' vote locked down.

i'd obviously vote for pete over trump but it is astonishing to me that a cybernetically created and not even particularly successful mayor of a small city -- who is gay! -- is considered more 'electable' than various senators/governors/etc of various genders

I’ll wait for him to be firmly in double digits in polling to call him the most electable. So far he is closer to Beto than he is to Biden.

I kind of hate him tbh

The only reasons Buttigieg is more electable than Harris are racism and sexism.

I actually dont think being a young mayor of a small town is adequate preparation for being president

if bernie's major shortcoming is that he can't turn out the black vote, where in hell does that leave pete

Buttigieg moving into Morbs' Target Number 1 spot in the last week or two validates all of the above.

It is a deep fundamental flaw with primary politics that the first two are in such ridiculously lily white states.

3 years is a long time imho

if bernie's major shortcoming is that he can't turn out the black vote, where in hell does that leave pete

Given supporter demos, I don't think this is a credible accusation against Bernie anymore (unless you're comparing him to Biden)

I love Warren's ambition when it comes to policy, but at this point, I feel like the deciding factor for me is who I think is most likely to be able to beat Trump. Not that I have any special insight into that, but that's really what I think most about.

― o. nate, Friday, November 1, 2019 9

Reagan might iirc

(i don't think that's a credible accusation against bernie either, just that's it's been going on for years)

liberal urban moneyed types, or people who fashion themselves as a combination of the above, like the guy

It feels like pure branding, and the people who see themselves as his base seem like socially/politically-striving types who feel identity is more important than policy

― mh, Friday, November 1, 2019 8:16 PM (fifty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

he’s a mckinsey type who took advice on which advisors to hire from facebook

having lived through many mckinsey and mckinsey-type corporate restructurings, none of which were saudi arabian (thankfully), don’t trust him

― mh, Friday, November 1, 2019 8:18 PM (fifty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm. the youngest candidate is basically running to be biden's grandson taking over the family business.

Is he really a threat to the top 3 candidates?

Perhaps in a Kerry-in-November-2003 sort of way should Biden falter and Mindy Moderates need a white hero.

he seems like a worst-case scenario in the general

That's Biden.

Look folks, here’s the deal. Ol’ Joe has failed everybsinhle time he’s run for president. Every. Single.Time. And if he is the Democratic nominee Trump will beat him like a drum. Like a DRUM!

i think biden does much better with black voters than buttigieg

The only reasons Buttigieg is more electable than Harris are racism and sexism.

There's a good case to be made that the only reasons Trump was more electable than Hillary were racism and sexism.

watching buttigieg try to debate trump with smoothly delivered mckinsey wisdom sounds like living hell

I would rather vote for Hunter Biden than Joe or Pete.

What's Hunter Biden ever shown you?

People sure hate McKinsey here.

its bad

last week, the buttigieg suggested its poor oerformance in south carolina was the result of black homophobia, a conclusion derived from a single 25-person focus group.

anyway, yeah, looking forward to the unity https://t.co/nZYjpHuf3M

— b-boy bouiebaisse (@jbouie) November 2, 2019

given that he's shorter than trump, i'd like to think that buttigieg has been preparing lo these nearly 40 years to break out the jujitsu on the debate stage

what could possibly maga more than trial by combat

great idea! let's drive a wedge between gay men and blacks!

if we wanted mckinsey we'd have voted for mitt

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firms like mckinsey are used as blunt instruments by both private equity overlords and political appointees overseeing large government agencies to provide “objective third party” rationales for why we can’t have nice things. They are part and parcel of the new gilded age and should be trusted less than Matt Taibbi trusts the CIA

mookie otm

aimless dap

Pete sucks

Seems to me they are as bad as any corporation.

you’re right it’s all a wash

there are certain corporations that operate on tight margins and constantly have to fight for profit while satisfying union contracts and complying with regulations. They should all be like that

Some wonk-y evaluation of Warren's M4A financing plan. (Bruenig is a pretty hardcore Berner so keep that in mind, also there are graphs)

https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org/2019/11/01/warrens-perpetual-medicare-head-tax-is-unworkable-and-bad/

In my experience senior executives hire McKinsey to lend credibility to what their subordinates have been trying to tell them for months, usually too late. The added bonus is you get a bunch of newly minted MBAs wandering the hallways getting in everyone’s way and asking stupid questions.

In my last encounter with them, they took all the work done by one of my smartest female colleagues, stuck it on a McKinsey PowerPoint template, and claimed several million dollars for showing it to the board.

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Kind of hilarious that at this point the great hope of the major Dem donors is the mayor of the forth largest city in Indiana.

the town pete buttigieg has mayor'd for seven years has a population smaller than the 40th largest city in texas, and the 72nd in california. the fact that he ever entered this conversation is completely baffling

— Christopher Hooks (@cd_hooks) October 30, 2019

good grooming counts for a lot, I guess

I'll be surprised if his polling bounce ends up lasting.

don't what the polling bounce is, it's behind the 12,517 post fold

I like Harris a lot, she’s maybe not that politically savvy yet but is generous and gave a lot of the fundraising money left over from her last Senate campaign to support down-ticket democrats

Only two more months til the poll closes and we can start a new thread

the defining demographic difference at my caucus location in 2016 between Clinton/Sanders supporters seemed to be age more than anything else, and even that wasn’t that striking

a lot of the party wonk types, including the precinct organizers, were in the slim O’Malley minority in the room

Kinda doubt this will work, probably too late for her to pull votes from the left
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/468666-harris-swipes-at-warren-i-have-never-represented-a-corporation

If Harris believes that twaddle, she's a fool.